Today, you shall have your answers. But, I was expecting more of you to dispute this.

There is nothing to dispute.

Where are the answers?

I am afraid you do not understand how science works...

You come up with your hypothesis, then do your experiment. If your hypothesis does not fail in your own experiments then you can claim it is a theory. That is when you present it to others to test, if they can not make your theory fail then it can be considered a scientific theory until it does fail or something like that.

So we are waiting for you to present your theory then we can test it...

HELLO ALL!

As many of you know, the whole purpose of people posting is to have fun and to gain something. It's not meant to hurt anyone.

Recently I found out that someone (not going to mention any names) did not like the fact that I, a Christian, was posting here. While I do not agree with this, the last thing I would want to do is make someone feel uncomfortable. Though I did think evolutionists were not so sensitive, if someone is sensitive and offended by my remarks, I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable.

And so, I will not be posting on the Science and Philosophy category. I'll still be on the Religious category, so I will answer my question there.

Shiki

Only if he were in a coma for three days. If he were truly dead, nah.

On their behalf, Devil's Advocate time here, is that you come asking for logic and reason and you present neither! Be careful of what you ask for becasue you might get it. Some of us have college educations and know how and what constructive criticism is. I have seen enough of your posts to see where you come from. you have no clue what empirical thinking or empirical study are clearly. None of what is said in the bible can be accurately accounted for. Likewise if people fall on one answer from one source that is fallacy! Why do you think the Catholic Church is so hard core against letting people have access to the very Scriptures they cite? Because the Scripture of Judas tells a much different story of Jesus! Judas was Jesus's right hand man and was put up to selling Jesus out according to Judas! OH NO LADDYBUCK, We are told to hate Judas for selling Jesus out! The very faith you fall back on is a lie anyways. You are worshiping a JEW!

I have met Christians who really do get what Jesus taught and follow his teachings but worship him they do not! I have been round and round about the translation of the bible being self serving. IN the bible it says, "Through me is salvation" but in two places it also says "in MY WORD is salvation." I believe in the passage that says "In my word is salvation."

Well, if I have to have Jesus to get into heaven I would rather go to hell and the Devil better expect a fist fight with me over the big chair down there. Then again he might appreciate the vacation and can get a chance to raise a little hell here!


El Diablo es Mis Amigo!

Apologetic's are welcome here as long as they attempt to prove a religious position via logic, reason, and science.

Good luck.

The only thing you might hurt is the little bubble that you call faith or religion, science and philosophy is about reason and logic. Posting in here as a christian or any other faith is fine with me as long as you stick to the facts and not fall back on faith or fairy tales. But honestly it is sounding like this is your way to back out of this topic that you started because you realized that you were not going to win if you had to leave faith out of the equation.

If you want to finish this topic in here that is fine but out of courtesy of others I would not go into a church to argue the ignorance of the religions so I also stay out of the religion section here also...

So are you going to back out of showing us your proof?

Nobody objected to you posting your own thread in the Science and Philosophy forum. Nobody is sensitive or offended by your remarks. (Annoyed perhaps.) When you crash a thread and post your religious beliefs in the middle of a discussion you have not even read it is counter productive. You may want to take some time to read forum rules.

So go ahead and present your evidence or proof.

he never said that it couldn't be proven... you said that it could... so prove it...

There is far more evidence
that Jesus Christ did resurrect than not.


+ + +

Jesus Christ is Lord!

i hear the wind blowin, but i don't see the leaves moving... all you bible thumpers are about the same.... where is this evidence????

It seems we are tempted to put our faith in a host of things
other than work of Christ on the cross.

Some have even placed faith in faith itself,
or in a search for fulfillment or even in a worship style
or philosophy.


Chip Stam

I could never myself believe in God if it were not for the cross......

In the real world of pain,
how could one worship a God who was immune to it?

I have entered many Buddhist temples in different Asian countries
and stood respectfully before the statute of Buddha - - his legs
crossed, arms folded, eyes closed, the ghost of a smile playing
round his mouth, a remote look on his face,
detached from the agony of the world.

But each time, after awhile, I have had to turn away.

And in imagination, I have turned instead to that lonely,
twisted, tortured figure on the cross --
nails through his hands and feet, back lacerated,
limbs wrenched,
brow bleeding from thorn pricks,
mouth dry and intolerably thirsty,
plunged in God-forsaken darkness.

That is the God for me !

He laid aside his immunity to pain.
He entered our world of flesh and blood, tears and death.
He suffered for us.

Our sufferings become more manageable in light of his.
There is still a question mark against human suffering,
but over it we boldly stamp another mark, the cross,
which symbolizes divine suffering.

The cross of Christ is God's only self justification
in such a world as ours.

John R. W. Stott

Here is something to ponder on, Herod was the King at the time Jesus was suppose to have been born. The kings at that time wanted everything documented right down to when and what they ate, everything that was said and all they talked to...even the secret stuff since only they had access to these writings at the time. The problem is in these writings of the kings daily activities there is no mention of searching for the king of the jews like the bible claims, there is no mention of the massacre of the innocent (killing all the young boys about the age Jesus would be). If all this really did happen then why is there no other record of this stuff except for in the big story book called the bible? Because that is all it is, a collection of stories from different people about the same character...

Thanks for that post. I'm going to use it....

Its becuase the story is a regurgitation from previous religious stories.

Horus.
Krisna.
Dionysus


Many many more. Popular mythology and nothing more.

To feel empathy for a person who was tortured and killed is normal. There was a lot of that in ancient times. Enough to turn my stomach. But certainly not enough to believe the fictional passion play.

Well golly...

Sense we lack any kind of evidence, other than a few words in an old book, I'd have to say there is no way to prove the resurrection. There is nothing we can verify.

But, you want to "reason" it out. Reason suggests PEOPLE DO NO COME BACK FROM THE DEAD!