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Topic: A Sad Day in Wisconsin?
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Wed 03/09/11 07:14 PM
Edited by artlo on Wed 03/09/11 07:15 PM
Wisconsin's senate broke its "Budget Repair" bill it two in order to pass the portion having to do only with collective bargaining rights. Because this does not deal with budgetary matters, it requires a smaller quarum.

It's a shameful act, but I think there is a silver lining. This should put to rest for good the charade that the anti-Union move has anything at all to do with repairing any budget. Koch's poodle is now clearly and baldly exposed as an enemy of working people. It will be interesting to see how the people of Wisconsin react to this.

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Wed 03/09/11 07:30 PM
YEPPERS! Sad day indeed.

Want to see me playing my tiny violin? You will need a magnifying glass!

Your Democrats brought this on trying to run and hide in Illinois!

So does the fruit of the Democrats actions taste bitter? Like I said in a previous post, if this is how the Democrats are going to "help us" face our collective economic crisis screw them. They do not deserve our votes!

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Wed 03/09/11 07:37 PM
Nice that they could 'repair' the biggest hole in the budge without having to actually do it with a budget bill.

Of course the Democrat's 'stunt' of running across the border did not have anything to do with the Bill or Unions anyway... It is being used to allow time to 'bypass' the election results and 'recall' republicans so the Dems can keep ripping off the taxpayer.

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Wed 03/09/11 08:07 PM
I just got home from church (Ash Wednesday) and read it on Yahoo News. I feel sick now. I fear for our country and for the future of my child if things like this keep going.

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Wed 03/09/11 08:11 PM
Country needs an enema!

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Wed 03/09/11 10:14 PM
I don't think this action went over too well in Madison.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=wisconsin&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#client=safari&rls=en&q=wisconsin&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wn&bav=on.2,or.&fp=2335d869c84ae28a

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Thu 03/10/11 04:29 AM

YEPPERS! Sad day indeed.

Want to see me playing my tiny violin? You will need a magnifying glass!

Your Democrats brought this on trying to run and hide in Illinois!

So does the fruit of the Democrats actions taste bitter? Like I said in a previous post, if this is how the Democrats are going to "help us" face our collective economic crisis screw them. They do not deserve our votes!
I cant help but wonder how many well paid union people would no longer be able to afford and aquarium tech?

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Thu 03/10/11 04:34 AM
Edited by artlo on Thu 03/10/11 04:39 AM
I cant help but wonder how many well paid union people would no longer be able to afford and aquarium tech?
YEPPERS! That's the way it works. we're racing to the bottom, and eventually, everybody except the rich elites make it to the finish line. Aquarium techs will be begging to work for $2,39 an hour.

Thanx a lot, Conservatives!

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Thu 03/10/11 04:49 AM
Your welcome.

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Thu 03/10/11 04:55 AM
Edited by artlo on Thu 03/10/11 04:57 AM
This writer at U.S. News and World Reports agrees with me. Koch's poodle is a liar and a fake.
Then there was Scott Fitzgerald, the state senate GOP leader, admitting to Fox News that the battle was about crippling the unions. He said:

If we win this battle, and the money is not there under the auspices of the unions, certainly what you’re going to find is President Obama is going to have a much difficult, much more difficult time getting elected and winning the state of Wisconsin.

Presumably that relates to fixing the state budget somehow. (And as an aside: Really? A great American drama is being played out before us and one of the characters is named Scott Fitzgerald? Awesome.)

It’s been fascinating to watch this political striptease, as prevarication after prevarication is stripped away, laying bare a naked political power grab. Poll after poll after poll showed Americans in general and Wisconsites in particular opposed Walker’s plan—and most especially his union-busting proposal. It was almost as it these polls focused and distilled the issue to its core. [Read: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker Is the New Face of GOP Overreach]


http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2011/03/10/wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-and-his-allies-drop-all-pretenses

I can't wait to see how the people react.

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Thu 03/10/11 05:08 AM

This writer at U.S. News and World Reports agrees with me. Koch's poodle is a liar and a fake.
Then there was Scott Fitzgerald, the state senate GOP leader, admitting to Fox News that the battle was about crippling the unions. He said:

If we win this battle, and the money is not there under the auspices of the unions, certainly what you’re going to find is President Obama is going to have a much difficult, much more difficult time getting elected and winning the state of Wisconsin.

Presumably that relates to fixing the state budget somehow. (And as an aside: Really? A great American drama is being played out before us and one of the characters is named Scott Fitzgerald? Awesome.)

It’s been fascinating to watch this political striptease, as prevarication after prevarication is stripped away, laying bare a naked political power grab. Poll after poll after poll showed Americans in general and Wisconsites in particular opposed Walker’s plan—and most especially his union-busting proposal. It was almost as it these polls focused and distilled the issue to its core. [Read: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker Is the New Face of GOP Overreach]


http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2011/03/10/wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-and-his-allies-drop-all-pretenses

I can't wait to see how the people react.
Its great actualy the republicans showed their hand in the war on the middle class now people will wake up.

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Thu 03/10/11 05:15 AM
Really? I am middle class and this doesn't affect me.

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Thu 03/10/11 05:18 AM
Really? I am middle class and this doesn't affect me.
I thinl we have our poster boy, folks!!

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Thu 03/10/11 05:59 AM
A sad day indeed. The union thugs who had the dems in the old back pocket and practically ran the country are now defeated.

What are we going to do with all the money we save? What are they going to do with the money they save from not paying the union dues?



It's a dark day here in WI. Our very way of life is over. The sun will be blotted out the trees and animals will start to die Terrible dinosaurs will resurrect and destroy our cities.

I to have a small violin. I'm playing it now as the united states of America goes down like the titanic.

SAVE ME OBAMA! STOP THIS WITH YOUR DIVINE POWER! YOU ARE THE MESSIAH! SAVE US!

laugh laugh rofl

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Thu 03/10/11 07:48 AM

A sad day indeed. The union thugs who had the dems in the old back pocket and practically ran the country are now defeated.

What are we going to do with all the money we save? What are they going to do with the money they save from not paying the union dues?



It's a dark day here in WI. Our very way of life is over. The sun will be blotted out the trees and animals will start to die Terrible dinosaurs will resurrect and destroy our cities.

I to have a small violin. I'm playing it now as the united states of America goes down like the titanic.

SAVE ME OBAMA! STOP THIS WITH YOUR DIVINE POWER! YOU ARE THE MESSIAH! SAVE US!

laugh laugh rofl

Hussein is showing he wants this country third-worldly.
He's screwing the teamsters.

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Thu 03/10/11 08:00 AM
By stripping public workers of their right to collectively bargain, the state can continue to cut and cut and cut and the workers will have no recourse. That's what this boils down to. Unions aren't always all they're cracked up to be, but they would stand in the way and must be eliminated for the State to proceed.

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Thu 03/10/11 09:05 AM
It's a sad day in our history.

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Thu 03/10/11 09:06 AM
I was pretty sure that there were bunches of shoes left to drop.
Poll: Majorities support recall of two Wisconsin GOP senators
By Greg Sargent
Here's something that could give some momentum to efforts to recall Wisconsin GOP state senators in the wake of last night's end-run passage of Scott Walker's measure to roll back public employee bargaining rights.

I've got an advance look at some new polling by Survey USA that finds solid majorities in two GOP senate districts support the recall of their senators. The poll was paid for by MoveOn, which obviously has an ax to grind in this fight, but Survey USA is a respected non-partisan pollster that's routinely cited by major news organizations.

Here are the numbers, sent over by a MoveOn official, in the districts of GOP senators Dan Kapanke and Randy Hopper.

When asked if they would vote for Hopper or someone else if a recall election were held right now, 54 percent said they'd vote for someone else, versus only 43 percent they'd vote for Hopper.

In Kapanke's district, the numbers were even worse: 57 percent said they'd vote for someone else, versus only 41 percent who said they'd vote for Kapanke.

It gets even more interesting. The poll was taken yesterday, before last night's events, and fifty-six percent of voters in Kapanke's district, and 54% of voters in Hopper's district, said if their Senator voted for Walker's plan, it would make them more likely to vote for someone else. Last night, both Senators did vote for Walker's rollback of bargaining rights.

Survey USA surveyed 400 voters in the district of each Senator. In fairness, this poll asks people to choose between their senator and an unnamed opponent, when in reality they would face a real live human being in a recall election. But this is how recalls work: First support needs to be built up for the recall of an official, and once the key procedural hurdles are surmounted, someone steps up in the role of challenger and is nominated by the opposing party in what is effetively a special election.

This poll suggests that in two districts at least, support for recall is already there, which is a good gauge of the intensity of grassroots anger at Wisconsin Republicans and will only give momentum to efforts to gather the signatures required to make the recalls happen.

UPDATE, 11:34 a.m.: A MoveOn official adds that the organization has already raised over $800,000 to support the recall drives against GOP senators.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/03/poll_majorities_support_recall.html

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Thu 03/10/11 10:17 AM

This writer at U.S. News and World Reports agrees with me. Koch's poodle is a liar and a fake.
Then there was Scott Fitzgerald, the state senate GOP leader, admitting to Fox News that the battle was about crippling the unions. He said:

If we win this battle, and the money is not there under the auspices of the unions, certainly what you’re going to find is President Obama is going to have a much difficult, much more difficult time getting elected and winning the state of Wisconsin.

Presumably that relates to fixing the state budget somehow. (And as an aside: Really? A great American drama is being played out before us and one of the characters is named Scott Fitzgerald? Awesome.)

It’s been fascinating to watch this political striptease, as prevarication after prevarication is stripped away, laying bare a naked political power grab. Poll after poll after poll showed Americans in general and Wisconsites in particular opposed Walker’s plan—and most especially his union-busting proposal. It was almost as it these polls focused and distilled the issue to its core. [Read: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker Is the New Face of GOP Overreach]


http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2011/03/10/wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-and-his-allies-drop-all-pretenses

I can't wait to see how the people react.


prepare for disappointment,,,,,,I am losing faith in 'the peoples' ability to care for anyone but themself,,,

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Thu 03/10/11 10:48 AM
I am losing faith in 'the peoples' ability to care for anyone but themself,,,
I think you might be surprised. I think people may be coming out of their myopia.

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