Claiming to be educated is the most sure fire way to prove your LACK of an education. Good for you, 19 years at the same union job. Bet it is civil or municipal and not manufacturing. And to base an economy on a middle class instead of having a fair and balanced taxation system and a welfare system that cannot be taken advantage of is what America needs besides Jobs. And here you are trying to bleed off to some Idyllic scene where your life is roses while the rest of us "Uneducated" people can suck rocks? You my friend are a (expletive involving feces and a part of the human anatomy above the shoulders!) plain and simple! It is thinking like this and arguments like this that serve no purpose! Good for you, you get to live the American Dream. I have had to grow up in the American Nightmare. "Know it alls" like you are the reason America is in such a fuqued position! Don't fall in the water AH! I wish you were fishing in Muskie territory. I would say reach on in and grab one of them! Better yet I wish you were fishing in Gator territory. Boy I would love to see how educated you are around them! Frankly it is people with an attitude like yours I despise the most! AS long as things go good for you and your way of life everything is good for us all? And you call me uneducated! Hope your pension is still there when you do retire! I know a lot of others who lost theirs either from investing foolishly (as in trusting the other guy to lead them the right way) and I also know others who think their unions are about to save them from loosing their jobs soon.

And vote yes on all taxes just for Public Parks? Just how stupid can you be? You like most other liberals just cry 'Raise Taxes' at every turn.

Yep, everything is Hunky Dory where you are. Good for you. You are definitely one of "those" people that cannot handle a competitive world! If you lost your job tomorrow what would you do? Go fishing?

Oh, and on top of that the National Parks you like to wave around and cast such Sylvan Images are thanks to a Republican, namely Theodore Roosevelt. Likewise his stance on Conservation was what led directly to the movement to help clean up industry especially when after WWII the effects on our world due to industrial pollution were becoming evident! Japan had a huge affect on Recycling post WWII and America was feeding into it supplying them with raw materials to recycle with like Glass and aluminum, wood chips and other materials. Germany had the worst pollution problem post WWII and they also contributed to the knowledge base we have. Oh but so many of you liberally minded folks want to think it was Democrats responsible for all the good things we have in America. Teddy Roosevelt fought a lot of opposition to his National Wilderness Preserves!

So Republicans are just evil huh???

Your lack of history makes it difficult to reasone with you. I will try because its good brain candy.

In Theodor Roosevelts time the socialist party was the fastest growing political group in the country. It was the age of robber barons and trusts. Theodore Roosevelt did what he had to do to keep this country from going red. He busted the trusts created public parks and was considered a traitor to his class. He did this to make concesions to the seriouse political crisis of his day and he knew if things would continue as they had been there would have been revelution and all would lose. Yes he was a great man but also practical and he saw the writeing on the wall and prevented massive social upheavel.

And how is it a Union cannot be considered a "trust" of sorts. In some ways it fits the classical description only its interest is labor. not something like say Shoes or Iron Works. And Reasoning with me? Come on, Some of your arguments lack reason. Now in Teddy's time men like JP Morgan called the shots. He was the one man who would enter the president's office unannounced. Teddy was the first man to have him leave or be thrown from his office. Why was America in such Social upheaval? You seem to overlook Teddy inherited a Recession! It was all the same Banker BS that led us to that Recession, the Great Depression, and likewise our Depression! And likewise we have new trusts in our government in the guise of political lobbies and likewise all of the exact same failed BS tried by liberal, socialistic, or "Humanitarian" presidents time and time again.

Now to digress to Obama, the Democrat of choice... yeah I know BUT...

What real good has come of this President yet? What real change have we gotten? Sold out to Health care and Heath Care Insurance industries? More Cronyism? More bogus politics? Continued trade deficits? MORE MILITARY INVOLVEMENT ABROAD? Opening us to more social spending but cutting back on the military yet sending us out to make more war in other nations now? So where is the financial responsibility? Where is the transparency? Where is all the money coming from? Why is it so many "Educated People" seem to think government and social spending is the fix all solution to our woes? on top of all of that why is it Obama has not taken a firmer stance on illegal immigrants to make sure we don't have a more serious problem bite us like a city getting nuked by head case terrorists? And then let us mention the BLEED on our SOCIAL Services giving things to illegal aliens who have paid nothing into the system! You give to one person you take away from another!

Liberal politics lacks two things, Personal Accountability, Financial Responsibility! Those are the two CORE things that Liberalism falls short on by leaps and bounds. What will people do with the money they are given and likewise where is it coming from? I personally feel that receiving Welfare money should come with a required monthly random drug screening to wed out the drug addicts riding the system out! Likewise some aid SHOULD be paid back to make it an incentive to WORK rather than trying to get at the easy buck! On top of that we need to stop raping our students in college. College is getting outrageously expensive. Books for example are vastly over priced! But where do we make concessions and where to we make reform? We made too damn many concessions. Now it is time for people to man up, fess up, straighten up and fly straight or kiss off! no more free rides for those who don't deserve them. Rich people earned their money usually. Criminals are just criminals even if they get rich committing crime! Being all pissed off and jealous of another person's wealth is so sissy la la! Tax the rich is what all Liberals scream so loudly when they don't see that uncontrolled spending is America's #1 problem as well as corruption in our system.

The one and ONLY reason I would become president is to clean some house and kick some azz in our own house! Right into the presidency I would declare a state of emergency and hole the threat of martial law above congress's heads. The only thing they would be allowed to focus on is our budget for the moment. I would likewise invoke an executive order suspending all pay to them but make sure our military got paid since it is a matter of who is providing a valued service to America! Running us TRILLIONS in the red is an emergency! Likewise I would make demands on congress they would have to vote on and if needed I would call for special elections to be held to make sure congress got a real taste of how pissed off we are at them. One is a performance standard which says, America in red, Congress, Mr. President and Mr. Vice President, and the Senate no get paid! America in Black? All Smiles Mr Happy Time!

Another would be an end of Lobbies utterly and campaign reform. Likewise entitlements and subsidies GONE! And on top of that take our involvement in Libya for example. Hope the UN like getting the bill through the World Bank! Hope the UN likes paying rent too! Also, religion being tax free... Not on my watch! I would pull out of Libya and go HAMMER Iran's azz with our assets in Iraq at the slightest provocation including them threatening an attack. I would like to prove to them how I feel about being threatened. I am sure quite a few Americans share my sentiments. Likewise I would employ a different strategy in Afghanistan and use General Black Jack Pershing's way of handling Islamic insurgents using PORK! And our trade imbalances would also be addressed. Likewise I would also pressure the crap out of China over N Korea and their need to step in and make them negotiate in good faith to end the war or once we consolidate our forces we will bring the Korean war to an end with us Invading them and forcing an end once and for all with S Korea taking over the reunification and us leaving the area so KOREA as a whole can heal! China would be smart to not mess with Korean unification. Since the N Korean regime made it clear they would go nuke the moment they launch ANYTHING we could construe as an attempt to launch a nuke of any kind we strike them so hard with Nukes China gets the 411 on world peace. Play nice or stay home! That way these piss ant nations who want to matter in the big picture will think twice about playing the nuke card in negotiations.

Then again I could dream of an America with a spine and some balls again. For now we got a curtain hanger for a president and a badly divided house of power prostitution!

You may know enough about history to cherry pick it. I suggest maybe you should do some reading though.

I can and will say the same about you. Funny how you fail to look at the dark side of the Liberal agenda. I suggest you pull your head out of the books for a change and look around! There is more to life than books. Likewise this is the kind of retort you Liberally minded love to pull so much. Statements with no substance! You dare to wave the Democratic party's flag and yet fail to see what good came from Republicans. All you can see are conservative religious zealots. Well, I see the Democratic Party as the Communist party now and likewise I see them as the greatest sellouts of America EVER! They also thrive on a nation divided.

So how about that opinion? Should I use smaller worlds and fewer sentences to not overwhelm your intellect? In other words should I talk dumber?

No, YOUR lack of historical knowledge and your inability to see past your own nose is your problem. I try to see things in a liberal light but then I see where a lot of the ideals fall short, HUMAN NATURE! But then again I suppose you are going to say I am wrong.

Being a Moderate Centrist means I am all for things that promote the common good for ALL Americans, not just blacks, minorities, Hispanics, or whoever else is out there. I am for social spending when if there are appropriate checks and balances to prevent abuse or propagating problems like drug abuse! Likewise Social Spending must be affordable. I also stand for LESS government and more personal responsibility but then here you come acting like people cannot be self responsible. YOU say we don't know any better. I have heard that said SO much directly and indirectly I can say safely that people who make the claims you do are more ignorant than I could ever achieve! Glad to know I am not the one sitting on the Jaded Throne!

So now what? Do we stick to the topic at hand or do we just go round and round with you trying to take cheap jabs and me just sweeping your argument's feet off of the floor again and again and again and again?

Don't make me break out the nun! Someone recently got me to use her on him three times in the same topic!

It is funny to me how when people say I am wrong they hold up billboards but when they are wrong and I am right suddenly they become quiet instead of admitting I was right in the first place! Yell all you want if that is what it takes to make you feel good about your political beliefs. But when you are proven wrong or shown shortfalls in your beliefs I am willing to bet money you just zip up and slide under some metaphoric rock and hide out the storm that follows!

WEAK SAUCE!

One only needs to look at the state of the nation today to see how wrong the republicans were. Cuttting taxes was suposed to help the economy we have done that more or less for the past twenty years. Look around and you will see your liveing in bizzaro world were poor people shrill for the rich people.

Now for the flip side of the coin...
How about all that uncontrolled social spending?

Entitlements?

Pork Barrel?

Subsidies?

But those are just buzz words...

How about this, Several TRILLION dollar Deficit and growing?

Ambiguous enforcement of laws, especially Immigration(!)???

Uncontrolled spending?

Redundant Programs?

Foreign aid to hostile nations?

STILL Backwards energy policies?

Excessive involvement in foreign affairs?

Hypocritical and counterproductive "Social Experiments" like Prohibition and Affirmative Action?

How about stripping our military's budget but increasing hostile involvement on more than one front?

And likewise doing so without Congress's blessing through Obama???

(Sometimes I think Hillary Clinton has her lips wrapped tightly around Obama's weenie but that is hearsay I will admit!)

OH BOY I AM ON A ROLL, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE???

Actively funding and endorsing organizations that promote criminal behavior and also ways of milking the system like ACORN?

Not putting distance between them and rogue members like the Reverend Al Sharpton and the Reverend Jessie Jackson who spread racism and hatred behind the word of God!

Repeatedly trying to engage in criminal behavior disproportionally vs. Republicans. You cannot see that a lot of these same "Democrats" are using the system and political affiliations to profit just like members of the Republican party.

Cramming Obama Care down our throats without US voting on something that critical.

Attacking the rich and engaging actively in class warfare!

Attacking the Tea Party in less than civil manner and on nothing pertaining to issues! Just scandal, lies, and innuendo! And oh how they pick on Sarah Palin. I hope one day she bites the LibDems in the azz but GOOD!

Assisting heavily in Privatization and deregulation.

Participating in exchanges of technology and information that are extremely questionable like Clinton's little give away to China! Nudge Nudge Wink Wink!

Every answer to every problem is raise already ridiculous taxes.

Financial incompetence.

Gerrymandering which is illegal!

Fighting Voter Reform!

Exasperating Bureaucracy.

Creating unnecessary departments and agencies within our government.

Refuse to end lobbying.

Refuse Campaign reform...

Lack any common sense any more at all if they ever did...

And to make matters even worst is they do not have anyone's interests at heart other than their own!! Law is like fashion to the Democratic Party.

BUT OF ALL THINGS THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS AN ATROCITY COMMITTED AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...

Forcing "Politically Correct" on us!



This would be me flipping the whole of the Democratic party off.

And just to be fair I am also flipping off the Republican Party!



Blackwater,

Iraq,

NAFTA 2

The Great Wall of America.

TARP 1

TSA!!! OH THE TSA SUCKS!!!!!!!

Afghanistan,

Energy policy

being too deep in bed with big business

Bible thumpers, OH DAMN THOSE REPUBLICAN BIBLE THUMPERS! (sarcasm)

BUT more often than not it is Democrats who vote for the sillier stuff and pretend they did nothing wrong!!!



But as long as you got YOUR union and YOUR secure job everything you think must be right while the rest of us NON Union are not deserving? We should not get anything becasue we don't comply with YOUR world views? I keep asking where all this miracle money to save America is going to come from. You scream TAX THE RICH as loud as your fingers can type like so many other noteworthy folks here BUT BUT BUT with Congresses track record they get more money they will SPEND MORE MONEY! The debt will not get dented significantly and likewise WE WILL STILL BE IN DEBT!!! The idea is to break the debt cycle not become trapped in it! Congress has a lot of financial leaks to fix first! ALL OF THE MONEY GARNERED FROM TAXING THE RICH IS NOT ENOUGH TO EVEN MAKE ANY KIND OF REAL DENT IN THE NATIONAL DEBT OR NATIONAL SPENDING!

Don't try to feed me that line either that "Its a start." Every pebble I toss down a hill side could be the start of an uncontrollable land slide that kills everyone including myself. I see the whole Taxing the rich becoming a MUCH more insidious problem! It leads to more and more taxation! And it leads to everyone getting squeezed more and more.

SO now your response is????

My responce is the economic elite are the only group that has seen their wealth increase and are probably the only group who can afford higher taxes. While the middle class and poor are makeing sacrafices the rich are getting richer.

I dont think its a good idea to cut food stamps and unemployment in these desperatly hard times, it will only increase crime and misery.

So yes by all means raise taxes to those who can afford it.

As far as spending cuts go, lets cut foreign aid and defence spending before we have grandma eating catfood.

And don't go blaming the Republicans!

I blame the republicans and Fox news for enableing them and people like yourself who blame poor people and programs that benefit them for our troubles when reality is the rich are getting richer and the poor pooorer and all the while people like yourself demand we cut social programs that amount to a pitence of our debt and will increase suffering and misery and crime ten times the amount saved.