At least you tried.

The CBO report I looked at (from2002) was quite a read. I wouldn't blame you for not wantingto bother to take the time to read it. It speaks of the difficulties of comparing compensation between private and federal public employees. They broke it down into classifications of the different kinds of jobs in the public sector.What I got out of the graphs that they used is that a small number of Federal jobs pay better than the same jobs in the private sector. The vast, vast, vast number of federal jobs pay less than the same jobs in the private sector. There are maybe less than 1000 federal jobs that pay 30% or more than the same jobs in the private sector.

Was this referring to my post?

"The government doesn't produce a product that has to compete against foreign companies that pay their workers $2 a day."

This was in reference to the fact that private companies compete and that is why the disparity in salaries and benefits..

Not even close.

Avg annual dues paid to the various auto workers unions by auto workers is $377 USD.
That's about $31 per month.

Please check your facts.

Adventure. There is a provision in the bill that would allow public employees to choose not to be in the union if they choose not be. That's why national unions are getying involved. It threatens unions all over if this is passed. If WI can do it you bet other states will follow.

that would pay for pensions... But of course then Union leaders would not get their 'rake'.

and I did check my 'facts'... Your numbers are 'skewed'... When a Union 'boss' can live in a mansion you can bet they are collecting more then 31 dollars a month from members.

Public Unions are a bit different from organizations such as the Auto workers... Auto workers will one day realize that their 'bosses' have been raiding the 'pensions'... Public workers pensions however are based upon tax base... 90% tax rates would be necessary to pay them all... and budgets would still be out of control.

Unions make up only 20% of the workforce.
Union leaders are making a killing off the workers backs.

wrong, read the mood of the country, read the mood in these posts

people are expected to WORK,,DAMN what the pay is,,,

meaning when enough people are DESPERATE enough to work for works sake and not be 'picky' about price, that leaves employers free to assign work to the lowest bidder,,,,

Not the lowest bidder but, the bidder who has the most to offer for the best price.
Called, value.
Used to be, when a minority was hired, they could just kick back and waste time. They couldn't be fired lest ACLU filed suits.
Thank God, all that has changed.

I see DC got my email and the only next step is to end the minimum wage and go with job bidding.

the lowest bidder of qualified applicants,,,

never been a time when being a 'minority' protected you from your contractual obligations,,,,,

a contract is a contract


the rest is up to debate

not you ms harmony

Unions are necessary when the employers exploit their workers.

Is the problem of exploitation of workers non existent now? What avenue do violated workers have in case of abuse from their employer? Does it work?

This are the questions that should be asked before removing unions.

My union helped me when I needed it on my job so my dues which I never noticed I think they were like 50 bucks or so. That union attorney was available to me for free.

You may not remember or, wasn't around when NAACP got the quota deal going.
They really took advantage of not being able to be fired.
They had to hire them above more qualified whites if, they had any experience at all. To be in line with mandatory Fed. regulations.

Negro Civil Service workers were hardly ever written up or fired. It would have put the crew leaders job at risk.

Ms Harmony
Too bad the Quota system was ever needed in this country huh?

If only whites knew how to treat non whites equally and fairly from the beginning laws wouldn't have to be made to make them do it.

I rub shoulders with people who run large businesses. Take Sketcher's shoes for example. They are one client I serve. I have served them for over ten years. Unions are the #1 reason they DON'T Manufacture here in America. Taxation is number two!

Labor Unions have driven the cost of labor Way too high for most larger manufacturers to operate here. They make demands that are not the responsibilities of the businesses the extort with "Collective Bargaining." That term sounds so Communist! There is no bargaining with the Unions, it is give us what we want or we shut you down.

Unions have way overstepped their power and authority. I was UAW 148 and when I lost my job they were not there for me! FUQUE LABOR UNIONS! they are part of the problem!

That is a crock of horse crap! People allow themselves to be exploited! That is such a load. The only time people have no control over exploitation is when the government is doing it! If your job sucks, QUIT! Simple as that!

Your remarks typify the apathy and ignorance of the "Average" American!

Too bad you are not correct. Makes it kinda hard to be considered above average when that happens to people.

And you are CLEARLY the reverse of a black man who hates his own race!

Here is who you remind me of a lot!

No. NAFTA is the #1 reason that manufacturers find it most profitable to take their operations off-shore. Also the #1 reason that they are able to take their headquarters to the Cayman Islands in order to avoid paying taxes in America.

Yea, any excuse will do to not address the real issue in yourself huh?

The problem is that I love all humans unlike others.