Okay. Still trying to figure out how you can presume to know how 'most people' are.

I guess it's obvious that generalizations are one of my biggest pet peeves.

I, too, treat people as I want to be treated.. I'm not good at lying either and why do that as it will come out eventually.. I would rather have my feelings hurt for just a while than be living a lie..

Me, I want the truth. One guy said I needed to lose weight and although a little shocked he said it; he was certainly right.

Even when getting to know someone. It's better to tell the truth. Better to find someone to fit your lifestyle, wants, needs....etc. then to find out you are going to date Mother Teresa.

Unfortunately the "truth" is subjective. For example:

Even if someone said "I don't want to be with you because you're(fill in the blank)" it is still only their opinion and not necessarily truth. With that being said I think when people break up they are bitter because it didn't work out... While they think they may be telling the other person the "truth" they are really just looking for a place to lay blame. How hard is it to admit it's no ones FAULT and just part ways because you're not right for each other?

Shouldn't be hard at to say that. Thats kind of what I was getting at. At least getting to know someone first to see if they may be someone you're interested in.

Hummm just curious how does one know if it is the truth or not if it is about another? Unless one was there they would not know.

Having trust is very important in a relationship but there can come a time when one could be accusing the other of lying with no proof.

I have seen many times where one partner is so jealous they accuse partners of things that were not even true for they only see what they want too.

Honesty is important but without trust honesty does not mean much...

Fact is, truth hurts. Lies hurt. So either way you go, it is gonna hurt no matter what you get.

Easy! The truth is what I decide it is. A lie is only a lie if you get caught in it..otherwise it becomes a truth.



And Sweet Boop...Baby I would love to go the otherway and say all people have lovely spirits and are mature enough to handle critisism or even constructive critisizm. From my exerience with people (I know a couple of people) I have yet to meet the person who is cool with being told something they don't want to hear. Every last damned one of us is that way....being mature and self aware enough to handle even the slightest thing we dont like is the rarity. Our culture aint real big on personal responsibility. Whatever isn't genetic or a societal problem is attributed to hard upbringings or (love this one) and abusive partners fault. The screwed up parts of our lives aint ever our own faults.

truth, lies..like Goof said, either way it can hurt.
Soooo, we don't get to mandate the others attempt at sparing
our feelings, we get to choose how we react...so truth, lie matters
not.

Well said.

Add to that, I think most people knows the truth about themselves within. The problem is they don't really want to look, but rather make excuses or have others lie it away.

ahhhhhh denial...
it can be a great escape, for a while...
self will demand the truth from itself, eventually.

There lays much truth! I think I can ask for to much truth and make someone want to lie instead,,,wink,lol,now THATS sad...

People always say they want honesty. What they really mean is "Tell me the truth only if it's what I want to hear". The truth can sometimes be pretty or ugly, but it's always the truth. I have let men go out of my life because I didn't see the relationship going anywhere, so why prolong the inevitable? I was honest with them, they got mad at me.

P.S Tact goes a long way too, though.

So true.

When anyone tells a lie, you will have to keep telling more lies to cover the first lie, I have always been honest with the ladies, and with everyone else, makes me sleep better at night.

And yes those jeans do make your butt look big!

I think ... it's probably a true flaw of mine that I think, for the most part, the best about my fellow man. I assume good things about them, until they prove me wrong.

That last sentence I quoted is not true of me. I figure if it's not true of me, it's also not true of at least some segment of the rest of society. Doesn't that make sense?

Sure it does. There are always exceptions to every rule. Nothing is absolute...except getting screwed on taxes.......we all get boned on that!

truth is is actually kind of difficult sometimes. what i mean is knowing what you actually want and what actually turns you on is difficult to put your finger on. i know myself much better than most people know themselves and answering simple questions about things you like or what "your type of date" is or what turns you on. could be difficult to answer truthfully. it is sort of like when you look at who you like (judging by looks) and who you end up with are alot of times two different things. the girls i click with are not always the girs that catch my eye right off the bat. and telling you why the turned me on.. or why i clicked with the other better is hard to see.

Unfortunately the "truth" is subjective. For example


this is true...sometimes when i listen to or read somthing someone wrote or said. i wonder to myself "how would they know that about themselves..they are either sigmund frued..or they do not know what they are talking about".

to be perfectly accurate truth is not subjective... but when most people claim to be telling the truth it is subjective. to say one persons opinion is as good as any others is by definition "subjective. a doctors opinion (truth) is as good as your buddy at the bar in ragrds to your broken knee. saying that the two opion's carry an equal amount(being only opinion's and not factual such as a dictionary or encylcopedia) of weight is what logicians call subjectivism.