Topic: Does anyone really want truth?
msmyka's photo
Sun 12/19/10 01:27 PM

Unfortunately the "truth" is subjective. For example


this is true...sometimes when i listen to or read somthing someone wrote or said. i wonder to myself "how would they know that about themselves..they are either sigmund frued..or they do not know what they are talking about".

to be perfectly accurate truth is not subjective... but when most people claim to be telling the truth it is subjective. to say one persons opinion is as good as any others is by definition "subjective. a doctors opinion (truth) is as good as your buddy at the bar in ragrds to your broken knee. saying that the two opion's carry an equal amount(being only opinion's and not factual such as a dictionary or encylcopedia) of weight is what logicians call subjectivism.


Which is exactly why I said "truth" in quotations.

pearl91's photo
Sun 12/19/10 01:35 PM
i know i can get into trouble for telling the truth but some times you need to tell a lie we are only human and we all do it, you just need to know if it is the right move or not

soufiehere's photo
Sun 12/19/10 01:39 PM

Which is exactly why I said "truth"
in quotations.

Well, the truth is MsMyka, we have
sorely missed your sweet, sassy self:-)
That, is a truth. No quotes :-)

TheShadow's photo
Sun 12/19/10 01:40 PM

What do you want, truth or who cares?

A date that lies, or a date thats honest?

Just a question.....


Who cares, as long as I get off. Thats all that matterlaugh




Serious though, wanting something and actually getting it are two different things. Everyone is different so who knows whats going to happen. I guess hope for the best and see where things go from there.







Mirage4279's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:40 PM
Edited by Mirage4279 on Mon 12/20/10 07:41 PM


Unfortunately the "truth" is subjective. For example


this is true...sometimes when i listen to or read somthing someone wrote or said. i wonder to myself "how would they know that about themselves..they are either sigmund frued..or they do not know what they are talking about".

to be perfectly accurate truth is not subjective... but when most people claim to be telling the truth it is subjective. to say one persons opinion is as good as any others is by definition "subjective. a doctors opinion (truth) is as good as your buddy at the bar in ragrds to your broken knee. saying that the two opion's carry an equal amount(being only opinion's and not factual such as a dictionary or encylcopedia) of weight is what logicians call subjectivism.

I see what you mean and unfortunatly your right...you have to be cuatious about other people's opinions all to often it seems like the advice you did not take was %100 oercent right...while the advice you were using as a pillar in your plans turned out to be innacurate.

Which is exactly why I said "truth" in quotations.




oops i put my response in the quotations..

buttons's photo
Mon 12/20/10 07:54 PM
i dig blunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!laugh laugh

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 12/20/10 08:25 PM
Honesty is a surefire way to stay single...doubt that is the aim of it, but it works none-the-less.

Mirage4279's photo
Mon 12/20/10 08:26 PM

pardon? note i had to edit cause it just cut and paste the ugh persons? that i quoted?.. did not let me say pardon! anyhow............... I dont know what your problem is... i said nothing for you or anyone to attack me!


uhhh you said you liked blunt so I shot the first blunt comment that went through my head lol hence the the question " shovel? " becuase you said you dig blunt..dig being the operative word there..therefore as blunt as the comment was I thought you might need a shovel ... dig get it?? you dig with a shovel??? oh well Ill go attack someone else.. lol

markecephus's photo
Mon 12/20/10 08:29 PM


pardon? note i had to edit cause it just cut and paste the ugh persons? that i quoted?.. did not let me say pardon! anyhow............... I dont know what your problem is... i said nothing for you or anyone to attack me!


uhhh you said you liked blunt so I shot the first blunt comment that went through my head lol hence the the question " shovel? " becuase you said you dig blunt..dig being the operative word there..therefore as blunt as the comment was I thought you might need a shovel ... dig get it?? you dig with a shovel??? oh well Ill go attack someone else.. lol


See that you do not attack anyone,
Thanks.

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 12/20/10 08:30 PM
Did someone say blunt?smokin

Mirage4279's photo
Mon 12/20/10 08:38 PM



pardon? note i had to edit cause it just cut and paste the ugh persons? that i quoted?.. did not let me say pardon! anyhow............... I dont know what your problem is... i said nothing for you or anyone to attack me!


uhhh you said you liked blunt so I shot the first blunt comment that went through my head lol hence the the question " shovel? " becuase you said you dig blunt..dig being the operative word there..therefore as blunt as the comment was I thought you might need a shovel ... dig get it?? you dig with a shovel??? oh well Ill go attack someone else.. lol


See that you do not attack anyone,
Thanks.


Didnt attack anyone...I was only kidding...thought it was easy to tell.. guess I was wrong...
gimme a break ..can you even read???

buttons's photo
Mon 12/20/10 08:45 PM

Did someone say blunt?smokin
yea i am blunt and like it........... however... i said nothing to no one for even really a response of the sort.. ok done and outta here.... be blunt to me.. like u are lmao! fear i can take it... for you only point out things that one says and make them think about what they said.......... that is the blunt i was talking about... gawd only knows i am definitely not always right lol! and i sure like a different point of view to think! i do know i am not always right. i like to see all points of view for sure! that kind of blunt is awesome if u ask me!.... thanks for being you!

markecephus's photo
Mon 12/20/10 08:51 PM




pardon? note i had to edit cause it just cut and paste the ugh persons? that i quoted?.. did not let me say pardon! anyhow............... I dont know what your problem is... i said nothing for you or anyone to attack me!


uhhh you said you liked blunt so I shot the first blunt comment that went through my head lol hence the the question " shovel? " becuase you said you dig blunt..dig being the operative word there..therefore as blunt as the comment was I thought you might need a shovel ... dig get it?? you dig with a shovel??? oh well Ill go attack someone else.. lol


See that you do not attack anyone,
Thanks.


Didnt attack anyone...I was only kidding...thought it was easy to tell.. guess I was wrong...
gimme a break ..can you even read???


I'll give you a break, and i'll also give you a tip.. Please see the Forum Rules

Please return to the topic, thanks.

Mark - Mingle2 administrator

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 12/20/10 08:58 PM


Did someone say blunt?smokin
yea i am blunt and like it........... however... i said nothing to no one for even really a response of the sort.. ok done and outta here.... be blunt to me.. like u are lmao! fear i can take it... for you only point out things that one says and make them think about what they said.......... that is the blunt i was talking about... gawd only knows i am definitely not always right lol! and i sure like a different point of view to think! i do know i am not always right. i like to see all points of view for sure! that kind of blunt is awesome if u ask me!.... thanks for being you!


So...do you have the blunt then?smokin

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 12/20/10 09:36 PM



Did someone say blunt?smokin
yea i am blunt and like it........... however... i said nothing to no one for even really a response of the sort.. ok done and outta here.... be blunt to me.. like u are lmao! fear i can take it... for you only point out things that one says and make them think about what they said.......... that is the blunt i was talking about... gawd only knows i am definitely not always right lol! and i sure like a different point of view to think! i do know i am not always right. i like to see all points of view for sure! that kind of blunt is awesome if u ask me!.... thanks for being you!


So...do you have the blunt then?smokin


I guess I'm on my own, eh? Fine, I'll make my own then.smokin

Jess642's photo
Mon 12/20/10 09:41 PM
If people demand honesty from their potential new partner, best they practise it also?

I not only want it, require it and need it....I demand it!

Reap what you sow....and yep am brutally honest in how I think and what I perceive....tough sh *te if you can't handle it...you aren't the person for me.

actionlynx's photo
Tue 12/21/10 12:31 AM

If people demand honesty from their potential new partner, best they practise it also?

I not only want it, require it and need it....I demand it!

Reap what you sow....and yep am brutally honest in how I think and what I perceive....tough sh *te if you can't handle it...you aren't the person for me.


I can handle a lot, but admit this society I live in has made me soft. Otherwise, this gal would be perfect for me. love sad

krupa's photo
Tue 12/21/10 05:04 AM

If people demand honesty from their potential new partner, best they practise it also?

I not only want it, require it and need it....I demand it!

Reap what you sow....and yep am brutally honest in how I think and what I perceive....tough sh *te if you can't handle it...you aren't the person for me.


Oh yeah? Where is that $7 you owe me?

hehehehehe

:)

BDBoop's photo
Wed 12/22/10 01:17 PM
Here's something that hasn't entered the equation. You know how sometimes you're just not up for it? What if somebody at that very moment gives 'honesty' their best shot?

I really think that there are people who are honest for the sake of honesty, and then I was raised by one or two that used it as a weapon.

So zing that arrow back around, sweet cheeks. Honest for the sake of honesty, or honest because it feels so good when you hit your target?

actionlynx's photo
Wed 12/22/10 02:35 PM
There are also times when people mistake honesty for a lie. They read too deep into things: body language, pauses, slow speech, fumbling words... Sometimes you want to tell the truth, but have trouble finding the right way to express the thoughts in your head. Because it can take a while to sort out how you want to phrase it, people can be quick to assume just about anything. "Oh, you didn't like it?" Or, "Can't you give me a straight answer?" Some people are so bent on hearing only what they want to hear that if it doesn't happen right away, they focus on what you're doing rather than what you're saying.

If honesty is subjective or relative, then so are lies. It's a matter of how someone else perceives it. Some accept lies as truth, other accept lies to escape the truth, and vice versa.