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Topic: "Birthright Citizenship" Will Be Target of House GOP Majorit
msharmony's photo
Sat 11/20/10 01:06 PM




Any human being who illegally enters a country is a criminal. Age knows no boundaries when it comes to criminal acts, and children in this case are criminals through no fault of their own. We need to suspend NAFTA until Mexico starts taking care of its own people.



I dont think children are criminals but I do believe that minor children should remain the responsibility of their PARENTS.. and should remain with them while they are deported,,,

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 11/20/10 01:09 PM



I can see your point, they are more of a victim of their parents stupidity than anything else.

Chazster's photo
Sat 11/20/10 05:56 PM
You say to me there is no proof. Can you prove this lack of proof? I don't hate babies I hate loopholes in our laws that allow people to take advantage of our of government system there is no purpose for the law the way it is so let's change it. Even if there is no proof of this happening it could happen. So we are possibly preventing something negative from happening. What positive effect is there if tue law remains in tact. Please explain that situation and not trying to just spread slander about how we must hate babies. If you have a legit opinion on how this law helps our country then I would be happy to hear it.

Chazster's photo
Sat 11/20/10 05:58 PM





Any human being who illegally enters a country is a criminal. Age knows no boundaries when it comes to criminal acts, and children in this case are criminals through no fault of their own. We need to suspend NAFTA until Mexico starts taking care of its own people.



I dont think children are criminals but I do believe that minor children should remain the responsibility of their PARENTS.. and should remain with them while they are deported,,,


I agree they are innocent. I don't believe they should benefit from the parents crime however.

adj4u's photo
Sat 11/20/10 06:45 PM
well uh

------ never mind

adj4u's photo
Sat 11/20/10 06:57 PM
amendment Text | Annotations

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section. 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section. 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section. 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 11/20/10 09:18 PM


are babies dangerous.
are they the future terrorists.
i don't understand.


If you want to be a citizen of a country you must go through a process, any other way is illegal. Or you can be born in a country to parents who ARE citizens of that country. that is the problem, if people have a choice of waiting their turn like millions of others or get to the border and say I'm having a baby go to a hospital give birth and because your kid is a "citizen" you as a parent become one is wrong. Wait in line, go through the process so we can identify who you are.

Yes something needs to be done...

But there is a flip side.

What would you do about the ones that are allready here? This situation is quite complicated... A child that was born in the US of A 12 years ago knows only this lifestyle... They are in effect 'anchored' to us.

You going to escort a teenager of 12 back to Mexico because of his PARENTS mistake?

Chazster's photo
Sat 11/20/10 09:25 PM



are babies dangerous.
are they the future terrorists.
i don't understand.


If you want to be a citizen of a country you must go through a process, any other way is illegal. Or you can be born in a country to parents who ARE citizens of that country. that is the problem, if people have a choice of waiting their turn like millions of others or get to the border and say I'm having a baby go to a hospital give birth and because your kid is a "citizen" you as a parent become one is wrong. Wait in line, go through the process so we can identify who you are.

Yes something needs to be done...

But there is a flip side.

What would you do about the ones that are allready here? This situation is quite complicated... A child that was born in the US of A 12 years ago knows only this lifestyle... They are in effect 'anchored' to us.

You going to escort a teenager of 12 back to Mexico because of his PARENTS mistake?


No there is a difference. They are already a citizen because of the law that is in place. You don't revoke someones citizenship. Now you can deport the parents if you like. (assuming they are illegal) allow the child to go with the parents and keep their citizenship, stay with any family they have here legally, or give them the option of letting someone adopt them.

Thomas3474's photo
Sat 11/20/10 10:39 PM
Part of the reason this country is in ruins is because you constantly have thousands of people coming across the border who assume there will be a job for them.What do you do when you have millions of people looking for work,thousands coming across the border,and hundreds of thousands of jobs lost every month?You have employers firing everyone and re-hiring everyone for minimum wage like we are seeing now.They know if they have a job opening there will be a hundred people in line for that job and they can pay them minimum wage.They are turning America into a third world country because they will work for next to nothing and their petty wages hardly generate any tax revenue.It has been the illegals that have driven down wages,not paid state or federal taxes,and used every possible program to sit around and collect welfare.


We have to have a process to screen who is coming into this country.One of these days a illegal or a bunch of illegals are going to be carrying the black plague or some other disease from some third world country and wipe out half of America.Felons on the run,gang members,drug lords,and others are just another reason we need to know who is coming here.


Mexico can keep their cheap labor.The billions we pay to illegals is far more expensive then any benefit they serve picking oranges or painting houses.


msharmony's photo
Sat 11/20/10 10:44 PM



are babies dangerous.
are they the future terrorists.
i don't understand.


If you want to be a citizen of a country you must go through a process, any other way is illegal. Or you can be born in a country to parents who ARE citizens of that country. that is the problem, if people have a choice of waiting their turn like millions of others or get to the border and say I'm having a baby go to a hospital give birth and because your kid is a "citizen" you as a parent become one is wrong. Wait in line, go through the process so we can identify who you are.

Yes something needs to be done...

But there is a flip side.

What would you do about the ones that are allready here? This situation is quite complicated... A child that was born in the US of A 12 years ago knows only this lifestyle... They are in effect 'anchored' to us.

You going to escort a teenager of 12 back to Mexico because of his PARENTS mistake?



keep the children with their parents, they adapt

IF the parents managed to sneak around for twelve years and are caught, deport them AND their children along with

keep the family together and responsible to each other

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/20/10 10:48 PM




are babies dangerous.
are they the future terrorists.
i don't understand.


If you want to be a citizen of a country you must go through a process, any other way is illegal. Or you can be born in a country to parents who ARE citizens of that country. that is the problem, if people have a choice of waiting their turn like millions of others or get to the border and say I'm having a baby go to a hospital give birth and because your kid is a "citizen" you as a parent become one is wrong. Wait in line, go through the process so we can identify who you are.

Yes something needs to be done...

But there is a flip side.

What would you do about the ones that are allready here? This situation is quite complicated... A child that was born in the US of A 12 years ago knows only this lifestyle... They are in effect 'anchored' to us.

You going to escort a teenager of 12 back to Mexico because of his PARENTS mistake?


No there is a difference. They are already a citizen because of the law that is in place. You don't revoke someones citizenship. Now you can deport the parents if you like. (assuming they are illegal) allow the child to go with the parents and keep their citizenship, stay with any family they have here legally, or give them the option of letting someone adopt them.


except in the states, MINORS(citizens or not) are the responsibility of their parents

no photo
Tue 11/30/10 01:48 PM
so how was your thanskgiving.
did you eat.

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/30/10 01:53 PM




are babies dangerous.
are they the future terrorists.
i don't understand.


If you want to be a citizen of a country you must go through a process, any other way is illegal. Or you can be born in a country to parents who ARE citizens of that country. that is the problem, if people have a choice of waiting their turn like millions of others or get to the border and say I'm having a baby go to a hospital give birth and because your kid is a "citizen" you as a parent become one is wrong. Wait in line, go through the process so we can identify who you are.

Yes something needs to be done...

But there is a flip side.

What would you do about the ones that are allready here? This situation is quite complicated... A child that was born in the US of A 12 years ago knows only this lifestyle... They are in effect 'anchored' to us.

You going to escort a teenager of 12 back to Mexico because of his PARENTS mistake?


No there is a difference. They are already a citizen because of the law that is in place. You don't revoke someones citizenship. Now you can deport the parents if you like. (assuming they are illegal) allow the child to go with the parents and keep their citizenship, stay with any family they have here legally, or give them the option of letting someone adopt them.


the first two options, yes, but the third option, no

plenty of children already in need of adoption because


parental responsibility trumps citizenship, minors have few to little RIGHTS seperate from their parents or another guardian(cant work to support themself, cant drive themself,,,etc,,,)

my child is a citizen, born here with an american parent and SHE cant just 'opt' to be adopted,, she is my responsibility

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