Topic: "Birthright Citizenship" Will Be Target of House GOP Majorit
yellowrose10's photo
Fri 11/19/10 04:51 PM
Chaz,

I think she is just trying to make an analogy.

Here's another analogy....

Let's say I have little kids and I commit a crime. I'm arrested and put in jail/prison. Whose fault would it be that I am separated from my children? Is it the state that puts my kids in foster care or with family members? No, it would be my fault because I committed a crime and got punished for it.

Same with being here illegally. A crime was committed and deportation would be the punishment, in this case. That would be parents fault for committing a crime.

Chazster's photo
Fri 11/19/10 05:05 PM
Let's take that a analogy further and say you robbed a bank. When you get caught and go to jail after the fact should your children keep all the money just because it was not their fault you took it? I think not. There is no punishment in not giving someone citizenship. Because their parents are here illegally. If their parents diet come then they wouldn't have citizenship. If the parents say I would do anything to give my kids a better life including leaving them in another country then the parents would still come to give their kids citizenship even if they as parents would be forced to leave.

RKISIT's photo
Fri 11/19/10 05:14 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Fri 11/19/10 05:15 PM
i wonder if the native indians that were here when europeans started flooding over here that the european women having "anchor babies" would be the babies that grew up and killed their babies for land...

our government needs to have a chat with the mexican government and solve this issue and not give up until something is done.i personally don't see anyone coming to this country to better their lives a problem,but the problem is it's alot of people fleeing from a poverty strickin nation thats being stubborn cause they get alot of money from the drug cartels, so the mexican government turns their heads. to be honest it's not Americas fault it's the
Mexican governments fault,they just don't give a shiit about their people

Chazster's photo
Fri 11/19/10 05:34 PM

i wonder if the native indians that were here when europeans started flooding over here that the european women having "anchor babies" would be the babies that grew up and killed their babies for land...

our government needs to have a chat with the mexican government and solve this issue and not give up until something is done.i personally don't see anyone coming to this country to better their lives a problem,but the problem is it's alot of people fleeing from a poverty strickin nation thats being stubborn cause they get alot of money from the drug cartels, so the mexican government turns their heads. to be honest it's not Americas fault it's the
Mexican governments fault,they just don't give a shiit about their people


Whle I agree with you the American government can't force the Mexican governement to care about their people. They do however have an obligation to the American people. I don't believe our tax dollars and jobs should go to illegal immigrants and their children.

RKISIT's photo
Fri 11/19/10 05:54 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Fri 11/19/10 05:57 PM


i wonder if the native indians that were here when europeans started flooding over here that the european women having "anchor babies" would be the babies that grew up and killed their babies for land...

our government needs to have a chat with the mexican government and solve this issue and not give up until something is done.i personally don't see anyone coming to this country to better their lives a problem,but the problem is it's alot of people fleeing from a poverty strickin nation thats being stubborn cause they get alot of money from the drug cartels, so the mexican government turns their heads. to be honest it's not Americas fault it's the
Mexican governments fault,they just don't give a shiit about their people


Whle I agree with you the American government can't force the Mexican governement to care about their people. They do however have an obligation to the American people. I don't believe our tax dollars and jobs should go to illegal immigrants and their children.
this is why we need to have a little chat with the Mexican government but with an iron fist,maybe tell them to give our government some of that cartel money they're getting so we can take care of them,some kind of reimbursementlaugh

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 11/19/10 06:52 PM



We should pull the plug on NAFTA until Mexico gets its poop straightened out and starts taking care of its people.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 11/19/10 08:10 PM

Let's take that a analogy further and say you robbed a bank. When you get caught and go to jail after the fact should your children keep all the money just because it was not their fault you took it? I think not. There is no punishment in not giving someone citizenship. Because their parents are here illegally. If their parents diet come then they wouldn't have citizenship. If the parents say I would do anything to give my kids a better life including leaving them in another country then the parents would still come to give their kids citizenship even if they as parents would be forced to leave.


because it is promoting more illegal activities...did you even think about what you just wrote?

Dragoness's photo
Fri 11/19/10 08:40 PM
No matter how much Logizing goes on here it doesn't change the hate of babies happening in our legislature.

To even believe in anchor babies is to perpetuate hatred. There is no proof that people intentionally have children here to cause us any problems. Believing so is a sick premise and I am ashamed of my legislature for entertaining the hatemongering.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 11/19/10 09:22 PM
To believe in anchor babies furthers hatemongering and for our legislature to entertain it is a shame to this country.

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 11/19/10 09:59 PM
Edited by boredinaz06 on Fri 11/19/10 10:00 PM

Its sad that the left has so much hate for this country. They hate it so much they are willing to forgo laws of this nation and are willing to let anyone enter this country without hindrance or let. Hate is ugly and the left is full of hate. the left is full of fearmongerers who attack and insult others who disagree with them by calling the nazis, racists, biggots etc. Sad when you really think about it, they insult this country because they know they will not be harmed by the govt. for doing so and that is shameful.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 11/19/10 10:06 PM


Its sad that the left has so much hate for this country. They hate it so much they are willing to forgo laws of this nation and are willing to let anyone enter this country without hindrance or let. Hate is ugly and the left is full of hate. the left is full of fearmongerers who attack and insult others who disagree with them by calling the nazis, racists, biggots etc. Sad when you really think about it, they insult this country because they know they will not be harmed by the govt. for doing so and that is shameful.


i agree... then they want to say everyone else is the haters...what a screwed up way of looking at things...i'm just gunna quit talking to the stupid libs altogether... at least until they get some sense...

Chazster's photo
Fri 11/19/10 10:24 PM

No matter how much Logizing goes on here it doesn't change the hate of babies happening in our legislature.

To even believe in anchor babies is to perpetuate hatred. There is no proof that people intentionally have children here to cause us any problems. Believing so is a sick premise and I am ashamed of my legislature for entertaining the hatemongering.


Of course you can't prove intentions. It's a thought. You can't prove what someone was or wasn't thinking. Many people come to this country to provide their children with a better life. Many people have admitted doing this. Though many did it legally it's safe to assume that some people did it illegally.

If you truly believe that noone comes here illegally because of our anchor baby policy then you would have no problem with us doing away with the law. Then if the number of illegal immigrants coming into the country doesn't lower after than you can say I told you so.

Seakolony's photo
Sat 11/20/10 04:32 AM

To believe in anchor babies furthers hatemongering and for our legislature to entertain it is a shame to this country.

Its not hate its fairness to the working US citizen, there is a process to go through for entrance into the US and everyone should follow it everyone no matter your race creed or religion some ethnic groups have been allowed entrance as refugees as things are so bad in their country that it would mean their deaths to return.......it isn't hate of these people but their complete disrespect and disregard for the laws of this nation......and I don't want to hear about the Indians I am part Indian...there were no laws governing...there was Indian Law and many met their deaths entering illegally......they murdered women men and children that entered their territories without permission and those coming here murdered to stay.......ummm hence the laws for entrance.........and all should and will abide or be deported as should be........everony should enter this country legally.....this is not about hate but their children should not be considered citizens unless they follow the laws of entrance as permanent residents......

metalwing's photo
Sat 11/20/10 08:00 AM
If the laws of the US don't apply or shouldn't be respected by people from other countries, why should US citizens obey the law?

Dragoness's photo
Sat 11/20/10 10:04 AM


No matter how much Logizing goes on here it doesn't change the hate of babies happening in our legislature.

To even believe in anchor babies is to perpetuate hatred. There is no proof that people intentionally have children here to cause us any problems. Believing so is a sick premise and I am ashamed of my legislature for entertaining the hatemongering.


Of course you can't prove intentions. It's a thought. You can't prove what someone was or wasn't thinking. Many people come to this country to provide their children with a better life. Many people have admitted doing this. Though many did it legally it's safe to assume that some people did it illegally.

If you truly believe that noone comes here illegally because of our anchor baby policy then you would have no problem with us doing away with the law. Then if the number of illegal immigrants coming into the country doesn't lower after than you can say I told you so.


So our law makers are psychic and can tell the thoughts of a certain type of human?

To believe in anchor babies is showing hatred. How is it showing hatred? Because if you believe the worse of a type of human based on their specific characteristics, guess what? It is perpetuating hatred.

There is no proof of anchor babies other than people saying it exists.

I am ashamed of the lawmakers for even entertaining this form of prejudice and hate mongering.

There is nothing wrong with the law the way it is.;

Like I said in the beginning quit wasting time in the legislature on hate mongering and get to something constructive for this country.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/20/10 10:25 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 11/20/10 10:27 AM
here is something constructive


what is the suggestion for how a country in such an economic turndown and struggling with LEGAL citizens and americans will support and maintain the lives of those children whose families CHOSE to have illegal status and get deported

how much CHARITY should the US BUDGET extend , are there any boundaries that should be set or should it just go on until it runs out? does BUDGETING and LOGIC ever make sense?


Id like a more expensive car, should I go ahead and get it KNOWING I cant really afford to maintain it?

should we continue to take in other peoples children even though we know we dont really have the resources to maintain them, especially when they dont even wish to take the effort to follow our laws when bringing their children here? where does ACCOUNTABILITY to the laws start to matter? when do the PARENTS become the primary responsibility for their children instead of the GOVERNMENT?

I dont hate children at all, but I know what I can handle in my home, and God bless them all, but even if I had a WELCOMED guest in my home who then had a child,, that child would have to travel WITH them and noone would convince me I was being hateful for not agreeing to overtake the parental responsibility for them,,,

if that parent gets DEPORTED, the child belongs wiht them,,,


DEPORT those who break immigration laws and require their children to travel with them,,,the least hateful thing in the world is keeping families together(ask childrens services)

Dragoness's photo
Sat 11/20/10 10:29 AM
Irrelevant.

Our lawmakers are assigning a derogatory action to people they cannot know are doing the action.

Making our law makers hate mongerers.

To believe in anchor babies is perpetuating hatred.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/20/10 11:15 AM
so labels aside

whether they are labeled 'anchor babies' or 'parentless children'


what is the SOLUTION , how do we maintain them , how much longer and at how much more expense , and what is the JUST and compassionate choice?


should we avoid deporting their parents for immigration violation? and if not, should we insist on keeping these families together when they are deported or should we rip them apart for the sake of a citizenship debate?


I suggest, whatever emotionalism and labeling exists, that families should stay together, including immigrant families,,,and that wherever the parents live,, there too shall their children reside,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 11/20/10 11:44 AM
Bottom line is that IF immigrants did things the LEGAL way, we wouldn't even be having this conversation...Then the hateful libs that are trying to destroy our country can find other ways to ruin it.

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 11/20/10 12:36 PM



Any human being who illegally enters a country is a criminal. Age knows no boundaries when it comes to criminal acts, and children in this case are criminals through no fault of their own. We need to suspend NAFTA until Mexico starts taking care of its own people.