I think I made that point,,lol

and even then, I wouldnt be expecting Switzerland to pick up the tab for my child if I managed to STAY there several years beyond what was legal and then get deported,,,,

Think of this,,,you have a summer home, and for two summers you dont go there

you have a gardener and housekeeper, but for those two years they also dont show up

meantime, a family shows up who thinks your home is much nicer than theirs and knows you will not be aware of their presence

they move in and set up house, they take care of the house and the yard for the two years and during that time they have two children


you arrive home and find them there,


do you

A) compensate them for their work and ask them to leave (WITH THEIR CHILDREN)

B) kick them all out with no compensation

C) keep them and their children as part of your household

D) compensate the parents and ask them to leave but adopt the children as part of your home because, after all, they were born IN THE HOUSE and they dont know anyone anywhere else,,,,?



I suggest that A is the fairest and most logical choice


thank them for what they have contributed, ask them to go to their own HOME(wherever they lived prior to their two year stint in yours)

and wish them the best


but IM sure some would be so noble as to ask the parents to leave but adopt those children as their own to give them a better life than their parents would and perhaps others would just take in the whole family (without requiring knowledge of who they were, their background, their finances,,,etc,,,)


well , I commend those in the other groups for their extraordinary TRUST and HOSPITALITY, but I certainly dont condemn those in group A as 'hateful'

i was unaware that i wasn't using my brain.
thanks for reminding me.
how do you know they all have biological family in their nation of origin.
if they've lived in the us for all their lives,
they're going to be familiar with american customs,
not the ones from whatever country their parents came from.
you're sending them to a completely new place.
it's not going to be easy.

who said life was easy? and why wouldnt they have family unless they were the child of an immaculate conception?

customs are easy to adapt to , especially for children, just look at the millions of immigrants who bring their children and teens to THIS CULTURE from others,,

not to mention, as a responsible parent, if I knew that I had put my child in that situation, perhaps thats all the more reason to keep them informed of their FAMILY's Culture and in touch with their family


its a parents job to prepare a child for the obstacles of life, so that society doesnt have to pick up the pieces for them

and Id much rather have children with biological family than with strangers in foster care,,,,no clue how that is a hateful preference,,,,,

wth are you talking about? they do not deport kids that are born here
thats what they are trying to change...right now, they deport the parents, not the kids... the change is to deport them all

fine then.
you win.
lets keep americans in america.
and everyone else out.
who gives a **** about the rest of the world.
let them continue living on a dollar a day.
sucks for them.
they should have chosen to move here a couple hundred years ago instead of today.

there are many more people in america than americans,

go to travel.state.gov/visa to find out all the LEGAL ways non americans can reside here,,,

i'm not ignorant.
but thanks.

good, glad you see it the right way

(:

didnt mean to imply that you are,, just a site for those who think americans are hateful to immigrants or not interested in having anything but AMERICANS here,,,

Illegal is illegal.....period end of story and if you are here illegaly then you're children should be illegals too...because if your are here on a work visa or school visa or visitor pass without going through the process of admittance for permanent residency you're children are non-citizens so why should illegals have children get special treatment?

Here is my 2 cents.

Why does everyone just focus on Mexico? There are illegals from all over the world. It isn't about immigration. It's about breaking the law. I haven't seen anyone say no to immigration. I see people saying do it the legal way.

Now let's get to the argument about we all came from immigrants. Depending on when your ancestors came to this country, there may not have been laws at that time. Laws evolve as time evolves. We didn't have drunk driving laws during the time of the pilgrims, but we do now. There are many laws that we have now that we didn't ages ago. The laws have to adapt with the times. So that argument doesn't hold water with me. What about those that are here for a "visit" and never leave even after their Visas have expired?

I know several people that immigrated here legally that are against illegals. My next door neighbor came from Argentina with his wife (legally) and had 3 kids here. They are all US citizens legally. My aunt is Korean. She is here legally and has been for a very long time. My best friend and his family came from Mexico City on Visas when he was in high school. After losing contact after graduation, I found him on facebook. He got his citizenship a while back.

As for the children that are citizens and the parents are illegal....That is on the parents. The parents get deported. I would think it would be MUCH crueler to deport the parents and leave the child here in foster care. I don't think the parents should be allowed to stay just because of this either. People don't get rewarded for breaking the law. That child/children would be with their parents, not wandering alone without anyone.

JMO

Again...I don't see it as an immigration issue. This country is made up of immigrants past, present and future. It's a matter of the law. Why should the people I mentioned above have to go through the proper channels to do the right thing while others shouldn't have to? Is that fair?

If the Republicans wanted a sure-fire way to bring about change in re. immigration, they'd pass a law that would send an extra tax bill to every entity found to have hired illegal aliens and call it Child Support.

Oh wait-- that would mean they'd have to hold their best constituency responsible for solving a problem it created. Couldn't have that, could we?




-Kerry O.

I hope the bill gets passed. Hopefully it will help lower the incentive to come to this country illegally.

if you keep employing them, they will come, and you will keep employing them because its that cheap labor that keeps your construction, agriculture, hotel and restaurant industries going... the hypocrasy of it all makes me want to wretch...

Employers are guilty as well. They need to step it up with the employers. I know many people that would be happy to have the jobs. Little money is better than no money. I know plenty that aren't "too proud" to do the work.

But employers that hire illegals are guilty of crimes too.

Its not like americans don't want construction jobs and if they are caught they are fined.....and hotel and restaurants they have to have paperwork so most of them are legally employed.....but construction jobs there aren't many and citizens. Do want those jobs ya know so wretch away

I hope this is a joke. Paying someone for breaking and entering into my place? Are you serious? Assuming you pay the gardener and housekeeper $300 a month (which is a lot for a place that is not being lived in) you could probably rent a summer home property for $2000 a month. That leaves them owing you roughly $1700 a month or around $40,000. Why would you pay them?

I would do neither of those options. I would call the police and press charges for breaking and entering. I would possibly consider pressing charges for my gardener and housekeeper because if these people were living here for 2 years and I didn't know it that means I was still paying these 2 people to do a job that they were not doing.

I prefer E- have them arrested for breaking and entering and then deported....sounds fair to me without any compensation.......illegal is illegal and committing crimes of breaking and entering and trespassing on top of it