It's not the logic I'm concerned with...it is the wealth of information available that for whatever reason people don't take advantage of...I mean, don't get me wrong, the internet is full of great porn but there are a few other good sites out there as well.

How's it going anyway, krupa?

Sites besides porn???

Really?!?!

I jest. Look up mullethunter.com

Makes the net worthwhile. Seriously man....I cry from laughing.

Doing good Fear. Hope life aint giving ya the finger! (If it is, I hope you are at least getting a reach around out of the deal)

Tommorrow my pc should be back online. I will post some pix of my cat......THEN gattoboi will really have something to rage against.

Why are you only saying Pit bulls? Rottweilers, doberman pinschers, german shepherds? I believe it is in the way the dog is raised? I personally DO NOT like Rotts. I was raised with Pit bulls, and they are very sweet dogs, if raised that way. We would have people visit and love the Pit bull, until they heard what it was. I always thought that was silly to be petting and loving a dog for 15-20 minutes, then freak when you find out the breed.
I don't believe it is a Breed thing.

Poochie strolls by to check upon the thread integrity gently woven within it's emotional vest.

i've often wondered why people chose PB's also.why not a Great Perinese?the size alone defers most people and they will not attack any kids or their owners.

let another unwanted animal or person get near a kid or their owner(s)and they will get in defensive mode.personally they are the best dogs i've ever been around!

i want to also say i think Chows are the most aggressive breed!.i will not trust a Chow!

I got Simba when she was 8 months old she was Shepard /wolf and was told by those that had NO idea about dogs that the Wolf in her would make her vicious and dangerous. Well I had her for 13 years and she NEVER bit or attacked anyone!! The neighbor KIds adored her and everyone one that knew her loved her!!!As has been said repeatedly, its NOT the dog, its the master that brings it up!!! I got bit by a friends Parrot once when I put my finger in his cage, it was MY fault! Does the OP think all parrots should thus be destroyed? Im NOT a cat fan but all animals deserve to be raised and trained right, if U cant take the time to do that, then dont own a pet!!

I agree totally with this ^^^^^^^

Like any prejudice in life, there is little anyone can do to change the mind of the person or persons. In most cases, they would much rather stay ignorant of the actual facts so as to maintain their prejudice view(s). Like beating your head against the wall!

My time would be better served getting unconditional love and loyalty from my viscious, mean, rabid Pit Bull that needs to be put down before he attacks!

Very well stated my dear!!!

Let me try to put my thoughts on this subject into words..I think PBs can be great family pets, the few I've known were/are really good dogs. BUT I also believe that the fighting/viscousness is an instinct that is breed into them, and for that reason I would not own one. I look at it like this, why put my or anybody else's kids at risk just so I can own a certain breed of dog.

The REAL problem are these so called "macho" **** heads who treat them like **** so they are aggressive. Pit bulls are not bred to fight, but that is what "macho" **** heads do with them. Any dog that is neglected will not trust humans and bite enthusiastically out of fear.

What rather amazes me, and is apparent that all upbringing's are not created equal, is the fact that people don't learn about breeds, they don't learn about how to defend themselves, they sure as hel don't teach kids how to react around dogs and other animals. I guess this is why I don't allow young children out at my place.

My folks have always had big dogs, and they showed English Mastiffs while we were growing up. We were taught no squealing or high pitched noises and no jerky erratic motions as those generally trigger the hunt instinct in dogs, ALL dogs. I went gleefully running up to a doberman at a dog show and flung my arms around it (I was 6-7). Fortunately it was fine, and I was fine. But lemme tell you just how red my arse was after mom blistered it good for not remembering! That NEVER happened again! You don't let a kid run up to a dog, no squealing, high pitched noises, you don't let your kid touch the dog without permission, and they have to have the dog smell their hands first before touching. I get so tired of having to tell children and their parents this when I take my dogs out in public, and its strictly to protect my dogs.

High-pitched noises trigger defensive reactions in all animals. You could easily be run over by the horse for squealing. It sets the tom turkeys off into a fight mode. Erratic behavior can piss off cattle. Even my steers, who essentially are pets, aren't immune to this. I spooked a snake, and myself in the pasture, and had the two dominant steers come running over snorting and huffing because I was high-jumping away from the snake. I trust them within reason, but I would never let my guard down on them.

And defending yourself. Especially adults. Most people outweigh a dog. Grab it and pin in. Choke-holds, fist in their face, trying to get your hand/fist down its throat, whatever you can to stop it. You're still gonna be tore up, but at least you are attempting to defend yourself doing so. Aggression back will cause the dog to ease up as it tries to figure things out.

Guilty!

I'm guilty of NOT being a breed expert... especially in the pit bull terriers... I was throwing around a weight class of 125lbs without accuracy. It wasn't meant to be accurate.

To be clear, I like the Pit. It's a people loving animal. BUT not other animals(usually)

I've owned a 80lbs Doberman and a 80lbs Black Sheppard both from birth. I'm not proud of it but my Doberman got beat up by a friggin cat once just goes to show right?... The attack I witnessed wasn't on a person but another big dog... It was vicious and unstoppable, the Pit being the clear instigator and the owner screaming for someone to help him control his animal.... At the fenced in dog run.

I remember him saying after the fact: "I don't understand, he's never been aggressive before"

I recently purchased a puppy pit-bull. He was very loving and smart. He died of parvo. I decided to adopt his father and Mustafa is one of the best dogs I have ever owned!
I believe that any dog can be aggresive if taught that. My dog is loving, playful, smart and very responsive to me.
I did get him for protection and NOT because of his breed. I am a single woman, I live on-site as a property manager and I am not making friends left and right. Basically, it is who trains them for what...and how they are trained.
Any breed can be as dangerous as the media has played on the pit-bull breed.
If you believe everything the media portrays on TV then maybe a re-education should be in order!
Can you say propaganda?????

It's totally the owners & breeder's
As you can see by my baby, he is one of the biggest lap dogs
as for PB's they r and aggressive breed & need to be loved & socialized,, Some ppl r not meant to have this breed...

You would search something like that on the internet, wouldn't you?

That's good brother, nah, life is treating me pretty fairly right now...I am at least getting a reach around out of it.

Hopefully your pc is back up and running today, will be waiting for pictures of your cat, haha.

just an update from walking at the dog park today where a chihuahua mix and a lhapsa apsa tried to attack my pit bulls that did absolutely nothing but stare at them like wow, dude why you so mad and chit? Monsters!

a few years back in montreal..a young couple brought a pitbull on a public transport bus,the driver didnt stop them from doing so..

they sat down on a bench next to a little girl,and when she tried to pet the dog,he lashed out at her and bit her face.

on the flipside-i know a pitbull who is so gentle that she lets kids pull her ears,and actually lets them take her bone away.

its the same breed,but its just so hard to know what makes them vicious and some gentle

Apparently, I didn't catch this one originally.

I had Great Pyrenees. 5 to be exact. NEVER AGAIN will I have them for a breed, and I don't recommend them at all, except as what they were meant to be, outdoor livestock guardians. An individual dog, maybe 2, male and female are fine. Any more then that, you run the risk of a constant dog fight. These dogs fought daily, given the chance. They had to be chained apart, inside a 6ft fence, due to their ability to climb fences and go after each other. They are far more fight happy then ANY pit bull I've met, and will turn on you just as fast. They will attack their owners, dad has plenty of scars on his arms from them turning on him, and I've got a nice scar on my leg from it. The only benefit with them is that they're light enough to throw, and I've had to do it. The female came back at me again, and tried to get around the pitchfork I had grabbed up.