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Topic: What do you do when the President LIES.
AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 10/31/10 08:25 PM
Since it is not politically correct to call a President a lier.

What does one do when our President participates in the same political LIES as all the rest of the politicians?

I give a single case in point.

When being protested by aids activists he stated that 'his side' was giving money and the 'other side' did not...

Ask anyone in Africa how much help GWB gave in the fight against aids and you will get a much different answer.

Not only that but the 'help' in that department is from the government... (last time I checked that was made of both sides).


Seakolony's photo
Sun 10/31/10 09:24 PM
Not act like you're surprised....

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 10/31/10 09:45 PM
The same thing everyone else does...***** about it on an internet forum.

Or vote someone else in next election, not that it will matter worth a **** but it is at least worth a try I guess. You could try that utterly useless method of writing congress, or the even more useless method of writing the president. Of course, both of those options are probably a lot better than bitching about it on the internet.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/31/10 11:27 PM

Since it is not politically correct to call a President a lier.

What does one do when our President participates in the same political LIES as all the rest of the politicians?

I give a single case in point.

When being protested by aids activists he stated that 'his side' was giving money and the 'other side' did not...

Ask anyone in Africa how much help GWB gave in the fight against aids and you will get a much different answer.

Not only that but the 'help' in that department is from the government... (last time I checked that was made of both sides).



same thing you do when people paraphrase what others have said,,,

research further,,,


intelligenceissexy's photo
Mon 11/01/10 12:07 AM

What does one do when our President participates in the same political LIES as all the rest of the politicians?

I guess on one level it depends on what they're lying about. If one guy knowingly lies about getting a blow job, apparently that's grounds for an impeachment hearing. If another guy knowingly lies to start a trillion-dollar war that gets thousands of American citizens killed for no good reason - apparently that's OK.


Thomas3474's photo
Mon 11/01/10 01:17 AM

Since it is not politically correct to call a President a lier.

What does one do when our President participates in the same political LIES as all the rest of the politicians?

I give a single case in point.

When being protested by aids activists he stated that 'his side' was giving money and the 'other side' did not...

Ask anyone in Africa how much help GWB gave in the fight against aids and you will get a much different answer.

Not only that but the 'help' in that department is from the government... (last time I checked that was made of both sides).





I agree.That statement was either extremely arrogant or very stupid or both.Bush gave more to fight Aids than any president in history.That statement was uncalled for and was slap in the face to Africa.

grobmensch's photo
Mon 11/01/10 01:44 AM
Edited by grobmensch on Mon 11/01/10 01:46 AM
AIDS, Mission Accomplished, I did not have sex with that woman, Read my lips...no new taxes, It is not American policy to influence the democratic process (in Venezuela), Bay of Pigs, Project Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, I will not send American boys over...to do what Vietnamese boys ought to be doing for themselves, Project Paperclip, Project Bluebook, The Maine, The Bismarck, The Lithuania, war profiteering & Standard Oil / Prescott Scott (Bush), and on and on... sorry I could only go back 80 some years but I fairly certain Obama wasn't responsible for all of it.

Grab a history book, a dictionary, and some mental floss. Go do your homework and spend more time reading and less time perpetuating echo chamber ignorance. Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky come to mind.


msharmony's photo
Mon 11/01/10 02:08 AM

AIDS, Mission Accomplished, I did not have sex with that woman, Read my lips...no new taxes, It is not American policy to influence the democratic process (in Venezuela), Bay of Pigs, Project Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, I will not send American boys over...to do what Vietnamese boys ought to be doing for themselves, Project Paperclip, Project Bluebook, The Maine, The Bismarck, The Lithuania, war profiteering & Standard Oil / Prescott Scott (Bush), and on and on... sorry I could only go back 80 some years but I fairly certain Obama wasn't responsible for all of it.

Grab a history book, a dictionary, and some mental floss. Go do your homework and spend more time reading and less time perpetuating echo chamber ignorance. Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky come to mind.




I would still like to know what he was supposed to have even said, because I cant find a quote for 'our side' anywhere,,,,

InvictusV's photo
Mon 11/01/10 05:15 AM


AIDS, Mission Accomplished, I did not have sex with that woman, Read my lips...no new taxes, It is not American policy to influence the democratic process (in Venezuela), Bay of Pigs, Project Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, I will not send American boys over...to do what Vietnamese boys ought to be doing for themselves, Project Paperclip, Project Bluebook, The Maine, The Bismarck, The Lithuania, war profiteering & Standard Oil / Prescott Scott (Bush), and on and on... sorry I could only go back 80 some years but I fairly certain Obama wasn't responsible for all of it.

Grab a history book, a dictionary, and some mental floss. Go do your homework and spend more time reading and less time perpetuating echo chamber ignorance. Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky come to mind.




I would still like to know what he was supposed to have even said, because I cant find a quote for 'our side' anywhere,,,,


Ask and you shall receive.. The second link includes the video of the speech.. He is clearly lying and knows it..


As Obama launched into his stump speech at an arena in Bridgeport, a group of protesters began heckling him over funding for the global fight against AIDS.

“Excuse me … excuse me,” an irritated looking Obama said before he could finally talk over the shouting. “You’ve been appearing at every rally we’ve been doing. And we’re funding global AIDS (prevention). And the other side is not. So I don’t know why you think this is a useful strategy to take."

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=93940

Midway through his speach, a significant portion of the crowd began to boo, to which a clearly displeased Obama said “excuse me, young people. You’ve been appearing at every rally we’ve been doing, as we’re funding global AIDS, and the other side is not, so I don’t see why you think this is a useful strategy for you to take.” Instead, he advised, they should “go to the folks who aren’t interested in funding global AIDS and chant in that rally, because we’re trying to focus on figuring out how to finance the things you want financed.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/president-obama-heckled-at-campaign-stop-in-connecticut/


Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/01/10 09:50 PM
You know how to tell when Obama is lying? His lips are moving.

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/02/10 12:05 AM
whoa whoa whoa whoa

intelligenceissexy's photo
Tue 11/02/10 02:04 AM

You know how to tell when Obama is lying? His lips are moving.

How come right wing conservatives have no sense of humour? That's about the least original, least funny and least imaginative thing you could have said.

Don't believe me? Observe the sheer monumental size of your fail - http://tinyurl.com/2apkr4d

Now try again. Mock Obama. Do it properly.

willing2's photo
Tue 11/02/10 07:20 AM
Edited by willing2 on Tue 11/02/10 07:26 AM
Obama the GREAT LIAR!
Posted on October 6, 2009 by Robert

Lets see, Obama has made many statements through the teleprompter over the last year:

Obama said “My administration will be the most transparent ever”…A LIE!

Obama said “There will be no lobbyists in my administration”….A LIE!

Obama said “I will allow the public to see the whitehouse visitor log”…A LIE!

Obama said “My health-care plan will not cover Illegal Immigrants”….As Joe Wilson said “YOU LIE”

Obama said “I will not raise taxes for those under 250,000.” (It is coming)…Future LIE

Obama said “I will Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN”…LIE

Obama said “I will End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000″…LIE

Obama said “I will Create a $3,000 tax credit for companies that add jobs”…LIE

Obama said “I will Recognize the Armenian genocide”…LIE

Obama said “I will Go “line by line” over earmarks to make sure money being spent wisely”…LIE

Obama said “I will Restore habeas corpus rights for “enemy combatants”….LIE

Obama said “I will close Gitmo” Obama is following Bush’s plan almost to the T (See this article by flopping aces Bush’s Gitmo plan from 2006)… LIAR

Obama said “I will prosecute the war in Afghanistan and if Bin Laden is in Pakistan I’ll go get him there”…. DOUBLE LIAR

A guy dies and goes to heaven. It's a slow day for St. Peter, so upon passing the entrance test, St. Peter says "I'm not very busy today. Why don't you let me show you around?"
The guy thinks it's a great idea and graciously accepts the offer. St. Peter shows him all the sights: the golf course, reading room, library, observation room, cafeteria and, finally, a HUGE room full of clocks.
"What's up with those clocks, Peter?"
"Everyone on earth has a clock that shows how much time he has left on earth. When a clock runs out of time, the person dies and comes to the Gates to be judged."
The guy thinks this makes sense, but notices that some of the clocks are going faster than others. He asks why that is.
"Every time a living person tells a lie, it speeds up his clock." This also makes sense, so the guy takes one last look around the room before leaving and notices one clock in the center of the ceiling. On this clock, both hands are spinning at an unbelievable rate.
"What's the story with that clock?"
"Oh, that," St. Peter replies. "That's Obama's clock. We decided to use it as a fan."

Q: How do you get a lawyer out of a tree?
A: Cut the rope.

Why do politicians envy ventriloquists?
Because they can lie without moving their lips.

What do you call a politician who swears to tell the truth?
A liar.

What do you call a democrat that sleeps around?
A breeding-heart liberal.

If con is the opposite of pro then what is the opposite of progress?

intelligenceissexy's photo
Wed 11/03/10 12:41 AM
The lying Obama stuff is worthless without sources. Without sources, you're just some crazy person screaming gibberish.

"What's the story with that clock?"
"Oh, that," St. Peter replies. "That's Obama's clock. We decided to use it as a fan."

Oh lord. Am I too old? Is that the problem here? I remember people telling this joke about Clinton. And Jeffrey Archer. It's just not funny!

Same complaint as above: http://tinyurl.com/27zlls4

Check it one time, whitey.

metalwing's photo
Wed 11/03/10 03:49 AM
Now you know. Look at what happened in the elections last night. The polls say that much of it was directed at Obama.

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/03/10 09:27 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 11/03/10 09:30 AM
Obama said “I will allow the public to see the whitehouse visitor log”…A LIE!


,,research further

http://www.whitehouse.gov/requestvisitorrecords


Obama said “My health-care plan will not cover Illegal Immigrants”….As Joe Wilson said “YOU LIE”

..research further

http://factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/



Obama said “I will Create a $3,000 tax credit for companies that add jobs”…LIE

...research further
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/505/create-a-new-american-jobs-tax-credit-for-companie/

Obama said “I will End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000″…LIE


..research further

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/sep/30/barack-obama/seniors-get-a-special-break/


Obama said “I will Restore habeas corpus rights for “enemy combatants”….LIE

Obama said “I will close Gitmo” Obama is following Bush’s plan almost to the T (See this article by flopping aces Bush’s Gitmo plan from 2006)… LIAR

research further

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/181/restore-habeas-corpus-rights-for-enemy-combatants/



this debate gets old though, as I said before, its as if people dont know or choose not to admit how GOVERNMENT works

one man cannot GUARANTEE the final outcome if that outcome depends upon the cooperation of 400 others,,,,

and I also love how people rate things as promises broken when they are still being worked on,,,,

willing2's photo
Wed 11/03/10 11:26 AM
What do you do when the President LIES?

Give him the Nobel Prize.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/03/10 11:36 AM

What do you do when the President LIES?

Give him the Nobel Prize.laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh



the nobel prize was for the following

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/

mightymoe's photo
Wed 11/03/10 11:59 AM


What does one do when our President participates in the same political LIES as all the rest of the politicians?

I guess on one level it depends on what they're lying about. If one guy knowingly lies about getting a blow job, apparently that's grounds for an impeachment hearing. If another guy knowingly lies to start a trillion-dollar war that gets thousands of American citizens killed for no good reason - apparently that's OK.




i guess it also depends on ones definition of what a "no good reason is"... since congress and the senate both had to back him up on it, and the 60 other nations that was with him on it might have thought there was a good reason....

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/03/10 12:11 PM
I agree, even if many of those nations had no military to 'back us up' with,,lol

its all relative,, people will be subjective about what a 'good reason' is

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