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"Atheist Wiccan" 
There can be no such thing. Theism is to believe in outer worldly spirits or beings that influence this world. Wiccan believe this to be true. As to the OP, there are some extremely smart theists as well as atheists. I find non angry atheists to be more aligned with my intelligence. |
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Edited by
MiddleEarthling
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"Atheist Wiccan"
There can be no such thing. Theism is to believe in outer worldly spirits or beings that influence this world. Wiccan believe this to be true. As to the OP, there are some extremely smart theists as well as atheists. I find non angry atheists to be more aligned with my intelligence. 
I guess that makes ME the "angry atheist"...  ...shucks we need more of them. Imagine if most people were atheist we'd have had about 75% less conflicts in the history of humans. 
If I rail I rail for the victims of religion and demand my fellow humans wake up and smell the BS before they take one more life. 
PS: If an intelligent theist does not believe in evolution they have a screw loose somewhere... |
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Edited by
Arcamedees
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Mon 10/11/10 08:17 AM
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Christianity like most religions are for people who can't think for themselves... Am I right or wrong? Statements like that are for those who have an inferiority complex. I don't need validation, so ha! Or proof. Or reason. Or logic. Or knowledge. Or brains. Or kindness. Or empathy. ect ect ect.. 
Oh...that was too easy...sorry sorry....it's just so hard to not knock 'em down when they set 'em up so well... Like the person who can't think for themselves and needs someone to tell him he's right? Or the "doofus" that tries to call me a dance? Or someone who is concerned about spelling and can't spell himself? (I can still understand what a person means with or without typos or "txt speak") Your perceived "wit" is really non-existent and quite laughable. Ad-hominems just show how un-armed and insecure you truly are. "Damn, I bet you really despise my words, don't you?" Well gosh and b'golly. You really put me in my place, now didn't you. 
And thanks for laughing at my "non-existent" wit.
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Christianity like most religions are for people who can't think for themselves... Am I right or wrong? Statements like that are for those who have an inferiority complex. I don't need validation, so ha! Or proof. Or reason. Or logic. Or knowledge. Or brains. Or kindness. Or empathy. ect ect ect..
Oh...that was too easy...sorry sorry....it's just so hard to not knock 'em down when they set 'em up so well... Like the person who can't think for themselves and needs someone to tell him he's right? Or the "doofus" that tries to call me a dance? Or someone who is concerned about spelling and can't spell himself? (I can still understand what a person means with or without typos or "txt speak") Your perceived "wit" is really non-existent and quite laughable. Ad-hominems just show how un-armed and insecure you truly are. "Damn, I bet you really despise my words, don't you?" Well gosh and b'golly. You really put me in my place, now didn't you.
And thanks for laughing at my "non-existent" wit.
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"Atheist Wiccan"
There can be no such thing. Theism is to believe in outer worldly spirits or beings that influence this world. Wiccan believe this to be true. As to the OP, there are some extremely smart theists as well as atheists. I find non angry atheists to be more aligned with my intelligence.
I guess that makes ME the "angry atheist"... ...shucks we need more of them. Imagine if most people were atheist we'd have had about 75% less conflicts in the history of humans.
If I rail I rail for the victims of religion and demand my fellow humans wake up and smell the BS before they take one more life.
PS: If an intelligent theist does not believe in evolution they have a screw loose somewhere... In all honesty, often in history religion was used as an excuse for doing bad things. W/o it, bad people would've, no doubt, found other excuses for doing bad things. However, you are correct. Humanity would've had fewer conflicts and be much more advanced if it had not the encumberance of religion. |
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Origin of Wicca:
Depending upon how you look at Wicca, it is either one of the newest or one of the oldest religions in the world: bullet Wicca is a recently created, Earth centered, Neopagan religion. The various branches of Wicca can be traced back to Gardnerian Witchcraft which was founded in the UK during the late 1940s. bullet Wicca is based on the symbols, seasonal days of celebration, beliefs and deities of ancient Celtic society. Added to this material were Masonic and ceremonial magickal components from recent centuries. In this respect, it is a religion whose roots go back almost three millennia to the formation of Celtic society circa 800 BCE. About deities: Depending upon one's point of view, Wicca can be considered a monotheistic, duotheistic, polytheistic, henotheistic, or atheistic religion, Hang onto your hat; this gets a bit complicated: bullet Wicca is monotheistic (belief in a single deity): Some Wiccans recognize a single supreme being, sometimes called "The All" or "The One." The Goddess and God are viewed as the female and male aspects of this single deity. bullet Wicca is duotheistic (belief in two deities; a.k.a. rarely as bitheistic): Wiccans often worship a female Goddess and a male God., often called the Lady and Lord. bullet Wicca is polytheistic (belief in many deities): Many Wiccans recognize the existence of many ancient Gods and Goddesses, including but certainly not limited to: Aphrodite, Artemis, Briget, Diana, Dionysius, Fergus, Hecate, Isis, Pan, Thor, etc. bullet Wicca is henotheistic (belief in a single main deity among many): Many Wiccans view the many ancient deities as being aspects of the Lady and Lord, and view the latter as the male and female aspects of "The One." bullet Wicca is atheistic (no belief in a deity or deities): Some Wiccans view the God and Goddess as symbols, not as living entities. Depending upon which definition of the term "Atheist" that you adopt, these Wiccans may be considered Atheists. http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_intr.htm Yeah. Atheist Wiccans do not exist. 
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Nothing exists. Thats why we are here.
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Edited by
MiddleEarthling
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Wed 10/13/10 04:58 PM
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"Atheist Wiccan"
There can be no such thing. Theism is to believe in outer worldly spirits or beings that influence this world. Wiccan believe this to be true. As to the OP, there are some extremely smart theists as well as atheists. I find non angry atheists to be more aligned with my intelligence.
I guess that makes ME the "angry atheist"... ...shucks we need more of them. Imagine if most people were atheist we'd have had about 75% less conflicts in the history of humans.
If I rail I rail for the victims of religion and demand my fellow humans wake up and smell the BS before they take one more life.
PS: If an intelligent theist does not believe in evolution they have a screw loose somewhere... In all honesty, often in history religion was used as an excuse for doing bad things. W/o it, bad people would've, no doubt, found other excuses for doing bad things. However, you are correct. Humanity would've had fewer conflicts and be much more advanced if it had not the encumberance of religion. I disagree....religion gave them a writ and a system to enslave, rape, discriminate, and murder so many people...estimated at 850 million murdered I think so far..make that 851 Million since the Christians supported two failed wars in the Middle East. Organized religion gives bad people a tool to use to control people. Also people individually use it to justify their ignorances...or are just prone to superstitions...or brainwashed in many cases. No, except for greed then without organized religion I doubt they'd be fighting over the weather
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Nothing exists. Thats why we are here.
... and everything exists. Thats why we are not there. 
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"Atheist Wiccan"
There can be no such thing. Theism is to believe in outer worldly spirits or beings that influence this world. Wiccan believe this to be true. As to the OP, there are some extremely smart theists as well as atheists. I find non angry atheists to be more aligned with my intelligence.
I guess that makes ME the "angry atheist"... ...shucks we need more of them. Imagine if most people were atheist we'd have had about 75% less conflicts in the history of humans.
If I rail I rail for the victims of religion and demand my fellow humans wake up and smell the BS before they take one more life.
PS: If an intelligent theist does not believe in evolution they have a screw loose somewhere... In all honesty, often in history religion was used as an excuse for doing bad things. W/o it, bad people would've, no doubt, found other excuses for doing bad things. However, you are correct. Humanity would've had fewer conflicts and be much more advanced if it had not the encumberance of religion. I disagree....religion gave them a writ and a system to enslave, rape, discriminate, and murder so many people...estimated at 850 million murdered I think so far..make that 851 Million since the Christians supported two failed wars in the Middle East. Organized religion gives bad people a tool to use to control people. Also people individually use it to justify their ignorances...or are just prone to superstitions...or brainwashed in many cases. No, except for greed then without organized religion I doubt they'd be fighting over the weather
Really? You really can't see groups of humans doing really bad things w/o religion? Tribe1: Hey! Those people over there look different. Let's go beat them up. Tribe2: Hey! Those people over there have stuff we want. Let's go beat them up and take it. Tribe3: Hey! We're stronger than those people. Let's go beat them up and force them to become OUR people. Tribe4: Hey! Those people might attack us. Let's go kill them before they do. Humans are like that. Not all of them, of course. But enough. Twas always thus. Since the beginning of human history and humans were still gather/scavengers living in extended family groups in the wilds of Africa. It is only in recent history that it's been generally recognized that killing for profit is wrong, that slavery is wrong ect. Humans have got about 10 million years of instinct to do bad things to get over. Religion has purpetuated this, to be sure. And been used as an excuse. Capitolized on it. But it was never the cause. |
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"Atheist Wiccan"
There can be no such thing. Theism is to believe in outer worldly spirits or beings that influence this world. Wiccan believe this to be true. As to the OP, there are some extremely smart theists as well as atheists. I find non angry atheists to be more aligned with my intelligence.
I guess that makes ME the "angry atheist"... ...shucks we need more of them. Imagine if most people were atheist we'd have had about 75% less conflicts in the history of humans.
If I rail I rail for the victims of religion and demand my fellow humans wake up and smell the BS before they take one more life.
PS: If an intelligent theist does not believe in evolution they have a screw loose somewhere... In all honesty, often in history religion was used as an excuse for doing bad things. W/o it, bad people would've, no doubt, found other excuses for doing bad things. However, you are correct. Humanity would've had fewer conflicts and be much more advanced if it had not the encumberance of religion. I disagree....religion gave them a writ and a system to enslave, rape, discriminate, and murder so many people...estimated at 850 million murdered I think so far..make that 851 Million since the Christians supported two failed wars in the Middle East. Organized religion gives bad people a tool to use to control people. Also people individually use it to justify their ignorances...or are just prone to superstitions...or brainwashed in many cases. No, except for greed then without organized religion I doubt they'd be fighting over the weather
Really? You really can't see groups of humans doing really bad things w/o religion? Tribe1: Hey! Those people over there look different. Let's go beat them up. Tribe2: Hey! Those people over there have stuff we want. Let's go beat them up and take it. Tribe3: Hey! We're stronger than those people. Let's go beat them up and force them to become OUR people. Tribe4: Hey! Those people might attack us. Let's go kill them before they do. Humans are like that. Not all of them, of course. But enough. Twas always thus. Since the beginning of human history and humans were still gather/scavengers living in extended family groups in the wilds of Africa. It is only in recent history that it's been generally recognized that killing for profit is wrong, that slavery is wrong ect. Humans have got about 10 million years of instinct to do bad things to get over. Religion has purpetuated this, to be sure. And been used as an excuse. Capitolized on it. But it was never the cause. Tribe 5= "Hey they paint their faces with green paint, we use red so let's slaughter them" But I think we agree that religion is the leading factor here. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Heh, I can post several studies suppporting that people of religion tend to be less educated or lack in cognitive abilities. Not too smart...well, I found this bit for it instead. I could easily do the same here but why go past something as simple as Yahoo Answers..lol. Question: "Are atheist smarter that religious people?" "Best Answer - Chosen by Asker When I first began participating here, a woman named 'Brenda's World' claimed that atheists were smarter than theists. I took issue with that, since I am a theist(deist). It only took a few days here to see that, comparing only the people on these boards, atheists are much more intelligent. I offer proof: "Creation scientists are a much scientists as Evolution are. In fact, Many branches of science were founded by Creation scientists. So without Creationists there would be no science." - a really dumb fundie "God is real ur going to hell for not believing in him just hope u soul can be saved hahahah" - an ignorant fundie spreading that good ole 'Christian love'. "The KJV because it is most accurate. There was a study done on all the versions, and the KJV has the least amount of syllables which relates to why the KJV is most accurate." - a really dumb fundie who needs words with less syllables. "It is the parents responsibility to care for their children. Not the governments to steal money from others to do what the parents are supposed to do." - another example of Christian love "because i have more proof of God then you have proof of evolution." - {it is truly sad that anyone would think like this) "The ark, was built big enough and strong enough to hold 2 of every kind of animal, including dynosaurs. Looking at the dimensions, scientists have determined that it could hold all of them." - fundie quote "Catholicism is not Christian" - ignorant hating fundie "Just about every homosexual I've known has already been so screwed up in the head that suicide just happens to be the thing on their to do list." - hate filled ignorant fundie "You will wish you had a little brain'wash' when you are burning in hell." - ignorant fundie "There are thousands of historical documents saying she was and I have the witness of the Spirit." - really dumb fundie [This fundie is asserting that there are thousands of documents that prove Mary was a virgin. LMAO!!!!!!!] "The Bible has been proven (through archeological evidence) to be the most accurate historical record ever written." - lol @ the deluded fundie "There was no room on the ark for the dinosaurs so they drowned." - fundie "It never rained before the flood that is why no one believed Noah." - fundie "Schizophrenia is demon possession." - fundie "God grew my nail back despite the surgeon's education, surgical expertise, and his protest!" - fundie {Evidently this fundie believes that God would grow her toenail back but allows children to be raped and murdered??} "Menopause is punishment for sin." - fundie "Yes God created all animals. But He knew that they {dinosaurs} would hurt people, and allowed them to die during the flood." - fundie "Liberal atheists are the communist's best friends..." - evidently this fundie is Fox News brainwashed Source(s): LOL @ "wiser as in better morals". See, even more proof! "Being an atheist is all about wanting to be your own god, which means attempting to blot out all authority over you." EVEN MORE PROOF! Why do fundies assume they know how another person thinks when they cannot possibly even imagine thinking the same way?" http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100401154853AAr4eZj no offense(because I am on these threads too), but I wouldnt make a reflection about the world based on these threads,,,lol it doesnt seem like educated discussion is a favorite of MOST in these threads, and most threads revolve around emotionalism and impulse and 'one up' man ship the other thing is that this thread particularly has a very very SLIGHT sampling of 'theists' , and usually the same ones over and over again,, so , ultimately, we end up with differing extremes of beliefs which lend to a never ending cycle that revolves around whose idea of 'intelligent' gets used in other words, if we have a 'theist', whose main source of information(or in extreme cases, ONLY source of information) is the one book of the bible,,,than by modern standards of intelligence, they will be woefully lacking of all those other articles of intellectual significance our culture has deemed a true indication of how smart someone is on the other hand, when we have non theists, they have usually done ample 'homework' to disprove things and have been able to utilize more 'intelligent' sources for their 'evidence' its like asking if omnivores are healthier than vegetarians,,,it all depends upon where their source of nourishment comes from and if that nourishment is, by modern standards, 'healthy' |
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Heh, I can post several studies suppporting that people of religion tend to be less educated or lack in cognitive abilities. Not too smart...well, I found this bit for it instead. I could easily do the same here but why go past something as simple as Yahoo Answers..lol. Question: "Are atheist smarter that religious people?" "Best Answer - Chosen by Asker When I first began participating here, a woman named 'Brenda's World' claimed that atheists were smarter than theists. I took issue with that, since I am a theist(deist). It only took a few days here to see that, comparing only the people on these boards, atheists are much more intelligent. I offer proof: "Creation scientists are a much scientists as Evolution are. In fact, Many branches of science were founded by Creation scientists. So without Creationists there would be no science." - a really dumb fundie "God is real ur going to hell for not believing in him just hope u soul can be saved hahahah" - an ignorant fundie spreading that good ole 'Christian love'. "The KJV because it is most accurate. There was a study done on all the versions, and the KJV has the least amount of syllables which relates to why the KJV is most accurate." - a really dumb fundie who needs words with less syllables. "It is the parents responsibility to care for their children. Not the governments to steal money from others to do what the parents are supposed to do." - another example of Christian love "because i have more proof of God then you have proof of evolution." - {it is truly sad that anyone would think like this) "The ark, was built big enough and strong enough to hold 2 of every kind of animal, including dynosaurs. Looking at the dimensions, scientists have determined that it could hold all of them." - fundie quote "Catholicism is not Christian" - ignorant hating fundie "Just about every homosexual I've known has already been so screwed up in the head that suicide just happens to be the thing on their to do list." - hate filled ignorant fundie "You will wish you had a little brain'wash' when you are burning in hell." - ignorant fundie "There are thousands of historical documents saying she was and I have the witness of the Spirit." - really dumb fundie [This fundie is asserting that there are thousands of documents that prove Mary was a virgin. LMAO!!!!!!!] "The Bible has been proven (through archeological evidence) to be the most accurate historical record ever written." - lol @ the deluded fundie "There was no room on the ark for the dinosaurs so they drowned." - fundie "It never rained before the flood that is why no one believed Noah." - fundie "Schizophrenia is demon possession." - fundie "God grew my nail back despite the surgeon's education, surgical expertise, and his protest!" - fundie {Evidently this fundie believes that God would grow her toenail back but allows children to be raped and murdered??} "Menopause is punishment for sin." - fundie "Yes God created all animals. But He knew that they {dinosaurs} would hurt people, and allowed them to die during the flood." - fundie "Liberal atheists are the communist's best friends..." - evidently this fundie is Fox News brainwashed Source(s): LOL @ "wiser as in better morals". See, even more proof! "Being an atheist is all about wanting to be your own god, which means attempting to blot out all authority over you." EVEN MORE PROOF! Why do fundies assume they know how another person thinks when they cannot possibly even imagine thinking the same way?" http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100401154853AAr4eZj no offense(because I am on these threads too), but I wouldnt make a reflection about the world based on these threads,,,lol it doesnt seem like educated discussion is a favorite of MOST in these threads, and most threads revolve around emotionalism and impulse and 'one up' man ship the other thing is that this thread particularly has a very very SLIGHT sampling of 'theists' , and usually the same ones over and over again,, so , ultimately, we end up with differing extremes of beliefs which lend to a never ending cycle that revolves around whose idea of 'intelligent' gets used in other words, if we have a 'theist', whose main source of information(or in extreme cases, ONLY source of information) is the one book of the bible,,,than by modern standards of intelligence, they will be woefully lacking of all those other articles of intellectual significance our culture has deemed a true indication of how smart someone is on the other hand, when we have non theists, they have usually done ample 'homework' to disprove things and have been able to utilize more 'intelligent' sources for their 'evidence' its like asking if omnivores are healthier than vegetarians,,,it all depends upon where their source of nourishment comes from and if that nourishment is, by modern standards, 'healthy' Good point. Case in point. And back to my damned if you and damned if don't position. My Atheist Wiccan friend who has already been proven not to exist followed protocol. Her supervisor told her to do something and she done it because in our field of endeavour that is called obeying a direct order. Her supervisor's supervisor fired her. I rest my case. |
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"Atheist Wiccan"
Yeah. I know, right. She is getting paid for being off work and I am being paid to be at work. She is one smart lady.
Atheist Wiccan huh. That's a total oxymoron. Now is she had called herself an atheist with pagan leanings, I could see that, since that's how I perceive myself. Of course, I suppose "Atheist Witch" is no worse then "Christian Witch" which seems to be a bigger oxymoron. |
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"Atheist Wiccan"
Yeah. I know, right. She is getting paid for being off work and I am being paid to be at work. She is one smart lady.
Atheist Wiccan huh. That's a total oxymoron. Now is she had called herself an atheist with pagan leanings, I could see that, since that's how I perceive myself. Of course, I suppose "Atheist Witch" is no worse then "Christian Witch" which seems to be a bigger oxymoron. That is a good point. Once she gets done with drawing her unemployment; Getting deprived holiday and vacation and all the other wrongful violations she cease burning as a witch on a stake because she has documented proof they will learn that hell hath worse fury than a just a woman scorned. And they will pray to whatever God they choose to acknowledge that she will cease to exist. |
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Instead of let us pray it will be let us prey.
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it seems the fist notion to determine intellect, would be to break down words to their simplest root form, unveiling the bias that be created by the word itself?
in other words, WHAT THE **** IS A RELIGION ANYHOW. WORDS. words that a human sayeth they believe. so, all thing THAT SELF BELIEVE, are in essence, a religion to THE SELF. how can it be missed, that the advancement of society and the world, is to come to a point in time, when the insight of the actual "fallicy" of words is recognized. for what would "profess" a "belief", if that was just what self actually was... so any belief is taken to try to "shape" the self, into what words it has heard, that sound as though what self "should be"... the very act of doing such, prove itself this person is not OK, with what they were or are? or they would have no "attraction" to any particular belief. if it is recognized that all words are but words, and to classify them in a beginning, first create the very inception of "bias", which is supposed to be what religion fights against? or is it? is it not bias, that create no peace? but then bias exist in human's first, then it magnified into the words and creation of things called as religion... so, how can any religion actually be fighting for common good, or elimination of bias, or peace, if they first call themself a biased word, such as "religion"... |
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God protect me from this oxymoron. I know she is flaming red witch from Yonkers that uses an inhaler like it is hash pipe. God be with her because I know she is Polish. Forgive her for calling me a dumb Pollock because I don't deserve the honour. Protect her because she thinks she is right. I know I am not righteous but she deserves better than the contradictions they are trying to make her believe. Please God, because we don't need any more avenging angels.
Peace |
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"Atheist Wiccan"
Yeah. I know, right. She is getting paid for being off work and I am being paid to be at work. She is one smart lady.
Atheist Wiccan huh. That's a total oxymoron. Now is she had called herself an atheist with pagan leanings, I could see that, since that's how I perceive myself. Of course, I suppose "Atheist Witch" is no worse then "Christian Witch" which seems to be a bigger oxymoron. Maybe I'll become a wiccan. I like the furniture. |
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"Atheist Wiccan"
Yeah. I know, right. She is getting paid for being off work and I am being paid to be at work. She is one smart lady.
Atheist Wiccan huh. That's a total oxymoron. Now is she had called herself an atheist with pagan leanings, I could see that, since that's how I perceive myself. Of course, I suppose "Atheist Witch" is no worse then "Christian Witch" which seems to be a bigger oxymoron. Maybe I'll become a wiccan. I like the furniture. Well I guess we have our answer now... |
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