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Topic: US Military Officers Demand 9-11 Investigation
Bestinshow's photo
Mon 09/13/10 12:32 PM
Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" http://www.undersiegemovie.com


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Capt. Davis, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Bio: http://web.archive.org
http://www.mo911truth.org/

mixalh's photo
Mon 09/13/10 12:40 PM
thats crazy....i have heard that there was alot of shady elements to the attack on 9/11...that there was alot of theories and also that the gov't knew that an attack was imminent.

interesting!

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Mon 09/13/10 01:31 PM



I'm sure the Clinton administration knew something was up (they should have been pros at recognizing threats seeing that we were attacked around the world so many times under his regime) and passed it on to baby Bush and who knows what went down at that level before the attacks.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 09/13/10 02:03 PM
it wasn't a conspiracy... it was UFO's..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SeE1Dt46AA&feature=related

this video proves it...

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 09/13/10 02:07 PM
National security adviser Condoleezza Rice testified Thursday under oath and in public before the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001. The White House initially refused to allow Rice's public testimony but reversed its position after pressure from relatives of 9/11 victims, commission members and politicians.

Following is a transcript of Rice's testimony before the commission:

RICE: I remember very well that the president was aware that there were issues inside the United States. He talked to people about this. But I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about.

BEN-VENISTE: Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

http://articles.cnn.com/2004-04-08/politics/rice.transcript_1_terrorist-threat-freedom-hating-terrorists-response-across-several-administrations/21?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS


mightymoe's photo
Mon 09/13/10 03:34 PM

National security adviser Condoleezza Rice testified Thursday under oath and in public before the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001. The White House initially refused to allow Rice's public testimony but reversed its position after pressure from relatives of 9/11 victims, commission members and politicians.

Following is a transcript of Rice's testimony before the commission:

RICE: I remember very well that the president was aware that there were issues inside the United States. He talked to people about this. But I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about.

BEN-VENISTE: Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

http://articles.cnn.com/2004-04-08/politics/rice.transcript_1_terrorist-threat-freedom-hating-terrorists-response-across-several-administrations/21?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS


i'm not following you here... it's big country, and lots of immigrants... what exactly were they supposed to do?

mightymoe's photo
Mon 09/13/10 03:37 PM

thats crazy....i have heard that there was alot of shady elements to the attack on 9/11...that there was alot of theories and also that the gov't knew that an attack was imminent.

interesting!


there are some videos on youtube that something that does not look like an airplane that hit the pentagon.. some do some fake looks to them though...they are grouped with that link i posted...

MiddleEarthling's photo
Mon 09/13/10 04:34 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Mon 09/13/10 04:55 PM


thats crazy....i have heard that there was alot of shady elements to the attack on 9/11...that there was alot of theories and also that the gov't knew that an attack was imminent.

interesting!


there are some videos on youtube that something that does not look like an airplane that hit the pentagon.. some do some fake looks to them though...they are grouped with that link i posted...


Ooof, the "No Plane" theory was intended for the twin towers not the Pentagon...gawd the Duhiers can't even get their lies right...the accusation is that a missle hit the Pentagon, the "no plane" theory was invented by the Duhniers to make the 9-11 CT's look stupid. We didn't blink an eye...just laughed.

Thanks to the OP for that report...now we have professionals from all walks of life demanding a REAL investigation...unlike this one:



PS, there are at least 75 videos that would show what hit the Pentagon? Seen more than the one 5 frame non-revealing one released?

Didn't think so.

Gee, why not release the rest.

no photo
Mon 09/13/10 04:44 PM
yeah...like the truth is ever really going to come out...maybe in 75 years when the reponsible parties are all dead and buried as is usually the case...

mightymoe's photo
Mon 09/13/10 05:44 PM



thats crazy....i have heard that there was alot of shady elements to the attack on 9/11...that there was alot of theories and also that the gov't knew that an attack was imminent.

interesting!


there are some videos on youtube that something that does not look like an airplane that hit the pentagon.. some do some fake looks to them though...they are grouped with that link i posted...


Ooof, the "No Plane" theory was intended for the twin towers not the Pentagon...gawd the Duhiers can't even get their lies right...the accusation is that a missle hit the Pentagon, the "no plane" theory was invented by the Duhniers to make the 9-11 CT's look stupid. We didn't blink an eye...just laughed.

Thanks to the OP for that report...now we have professionals from all walks of life demanding a REAL investigation...unlike this one:



PS, there are at least 75 videos that would show what hit the Pentagon? Seen more than the one 5 frame non-revealing one released?

Didn't think so.

Gee, why not release the rest.
i do have to agree with you on the pentagon site does not look like a plane...something does look a little fishy with that

MiddleEarthling's photo
Tue 09/14/10 06:35 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Tue 09/14/10 06:36 PM




thats crazy....i have heard that there was alot of shady elements to the attack on 9/11...that there was alot of theories and also that the gov't knew that an attack was imminent.

interesting!


there are some videos on youtube that something that does not look like an airplane that hit the pentagon.. some do some fake looks to them though...they are grouped with that link i posted...


Ooof, the "No Plane" theory was intended for the twin towers not the Pentagon...gawd the Duhiers can't even get their lies right...the accusation is that a missle hit the Pentagon, the "no plane" theory was invented by the Duhniers to make the 9-11 CT's look stupid. We didn't blink an eye...just laughed.

Thanks to the OP for that report...now we have professionals from all walks of life demanding a REAL investigation...unlike this one:



PS, there are at least 75 videos that would show what hit the Pentagon? Seen more than the one 5 frame non-revealing one released?

Didn't think so.

Gee, why not release the rest.
i do have to agree with you on the pentagon site does not look like a plane...something does look a little fishy with that


This is the hole the Gen is talking about:



"This hole could not be created by a large moving object.
Anything large enough going fast enough to break a hole in the wall here, wouldnt stop at this point,
and leave nothing behind.
What was left behind will be looked at closer on this page.
Also since the words "Punch out" and other painting on the wall has been a point of confusion,
this page will try to address that issue as well.
This may not PROVE the fact, there there was planted evidence, moved debris, or fake photos,
but read on, and I think it may raise an eyebrow !
"

"Mr. RUMSFELD: Yeah. And then came in about—between about the first and second floor over here. And it went in through three rings. I’m told the nose is—is still in there, very close to the inner courtyard, about one ring away."
(Good Morning America - September 13, 2001)

Uh, there was no nose of the plane found...plus if there were then it went through 3 thick rings of the Pentagon? The nose of an aircraft is made of aluminum...perfect BLAST HOLE..duh?

http://911review.org/brad.com/pentagon/exit_hole/




Thomas3474's photo
Tue 09/14/10 06:48 PM
Edited by Thomas3474 on Tue 09/14/10 06:48 PM

Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" http://www.undersiegemovie.com


Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Capt. Davis, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.


Bio: http://web.archive.org
http://www.mo911truth.org/



So the hundreds of witness that saw a plane fly into the Pentagon have no merit anymore?

In case you missed it the airplane that flew into the Pentagon was flying so low it took out several light poles as shown in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

You also have a airplane full of people who's bodies ended up in the Pentagon along with the airplane they were riding in as well.


TonkaTruck3's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:28 PM
Hmmm, I dont know about that!! Where is the plane?? Where is all the massive debris that a 747 would have left strung out all over the place??

Wheres the bodies, and all the luggage??
Why is'nt that entire wall knocked down??...instead it has a small hole in it??

Where is all the video evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon??

mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:34 PM


big difference in pics here....

TonkaTruck3's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:43 PM
That is still too small of an area for the damage that a full size 747 would inflict. Looks more like a bombing to me.

metalwing's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:51 PM
This just proves retired generals are either misquoted or can be crackpots too.

Thomas3474's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:54 PM

Hmmm, I dont know about that!! Where is the plane?? Where is all the massive debris that a 747 would have left strung out all over the place??

Wheres the bodies, and all the luggage??
Why is'nt that entire wall knocked down??...instead it has a small hole in it??

Where is all the video evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon??



Small hole are you kidding me???You had a million people taking pictures of the Pentagon the next day and you don't have a small hole.You have massive damage to the building as show in in this and other photos.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:911-pentagon-3days.jpg


You can believe what you want.Like I said you have hundreds of witnesses that saw this plane hit the building.

Something else you 9/11 nut jobs never can seem to understand is that you had a airplane full of people leave the airport and it never came back.Where did the plane and people go?Into outer space?Were all the traffic controllers smoking crack when they were tracking a plane that left the airport and disappeared over Washington DC?


The bodies(or what was left of them)were recovered and I.D.ed.The airplane,luggage and everything else went into the building and the majority was burned to cinders.You are not going to find a full body after a airplane accident and after it has been burned to a crisp it will look almost unrecognizable.



mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/14/10 08:59 PM

That is still too small of an area for the damage that a full size 747 would inflict. Looks more like a bombing to me.
have you seen the videos of the hit? it is not a plane...

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/14/10 09:00 PM

thats crazy....i have heard that there was alot of shady elements to the attack on 9/11...that there was alot of theories and also that the gov't knew that an attack was imminent.

interesting!


Bill Clinton was warned by the Mossad right before he left office and his people refused to turn that intelligence report over to the Bush Administration including the names of four of the Hijackers. So Clinton played politics and a lot of people died.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/14/10 09:02 PM

yeah...like the truth is ever really going to come out...maybe in 75 years when the reponsible parties are all dead and buried as is usually the case...


The majority of the people involved are dead, remember they flew the planes into the buildings? The rest we are killing on a daily basis! :banana:

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