With all due respect the person raped is never responsible because
of what time they walk or what clothes they wear. You know that.

The people who were flying on the airplanes which were hijacked
bear no responsibility for putting their lives at risk by booking
airline tickets or for living in this country.

This is very faulty logic.

If someone is killed for drawing cartoon pictures of the prophet there
is no reasonable argument to be made that they bear responsibility for their own death. The responsibility is 100% that of the killer.

If you disagree with someone you peacefully argue your position
but you don't just cut their throat.



It is not like a suicide where someone throws themselves in front of a wrecking ball, or subway, or car, or jumps from a tower...

and that proves my point,, nowhere did I post that I dont BLAME anyone,,,,PRIMARY responsibility lies in the one who chooses to commit the action and is equal to BLAME

I said I do not play the BLAME game because it tends to make everyone else feel ALLEVED of responsibility or a need to change anything

If I walk down an alley at night alone in a daisy duke skirt and a halter, my IRRESPONSIBLE behavior may lead to me being raped,,,the rapist will be to BLAME for the rape, but I will have to take RESPONSIBILITY for my decision to be so careless and CHANGE that behavior in the future

If I stand in front of a wrecking ball and the operator does not stop it,,the operator is to BLAME for not stopping the ball, but I am RESPONSIBLE for standing in front of it in the first place


BLAME makes it all about the REACTION and ignores what lead to it, and thats how NOTHING changes, cause people continue doing the same thing without even CONSIDERING the slightest change,,,


insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome...


With all due respect the person raped is never responsible because
of what time they walk or what clothes they wear. You know that.

The people who were flying on the airplanes which were hijacked
bear no responsibility for putting their lives at risk by booking
airline tickets or for living in this country.

This is very faulty logic.

If someone is killed for drawing cartoon pictures of the prophet there
is no reasonable argument to be made that they bear responsibility for their own death. The responsibility is 100% that of the killer.

If you disagree with someone you peacefully argue your position
but you don't just cut their throat.



It is not like a suicide where someone throws themselves in front of a wrecking ball, or subway, or car, or jumps from a tower...



Wonder how women who have been raped feel when another woman says they share responsibility for having been raped?

I disagree, we are always responsible for IRRESPONSIBLE or FOOLISH choices,,,,, the people who died werent RESPONSIBLE, but the government of the land in which they lived certainly had responsibility on its shoulders


I will repeat BLAME is easy, the person who chooses to do wrong is to BLAME,,,,but there are always conditions, situations, reasons , experiences which LEAD them to consider the choice,,,if those reasons involve irresponsibility or inconsideration of OTHERS, than those others do share some responsiblity

for example, the drug dealer who has grown up with nothing but poverty and drugs around them, hasnt been exposed to an adequate education or adequate alternatives,, is to BLAME for selling drugs

but their society is RESPONSIBLE for the conditions they were BORN into which lead them to that choice

in my opinion

That statement is what they use as an excuse for their situation.

If, they really wanted a better life, they take responsibility and make the changes.

Or, they can blame society and stay the victim.

Rev White, Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson and all the other hate whiteies want the negro to stay the victim. That's how they make their livings.

Po' me don't fly here!

yes, which is why I refer to RESPONSIBILITY and not blame

I was assaulted because I stayed at a strange mans house and agreed to sleep on his couch which was his only bed

he was to BLAME for assaulting me(that was his choice)

I was RESPONSIBLE for the irresponsible choice I MADE that put me in a situation that he COULD assault me so easily(but for that choice he could not have assaulted me)

does my taking responsibility for my choice ALLEVE him of his BLAME,,no

it only FORCES me to take a look at my own decisions and try to improve them in the future,,,

if a child grows up with nothing but beans and noodles in the house and grows into an adult who only will eat beans and noodles,even AFTER being exposed to other things,,, the FACT that he was only exposed to beans and noodes in his formidable years is partly RESPONSIBLE for why he only chooses them later in life

likewise with a child who grows up with nothing but drugs and crime around them, who never gets out, before having a child of their own who grows up in that same exclusive type situation,,,,that child choosing drugs and crime as an adult is their CHOICE , but there are factors RESPONSIBLE for that choice(such as them not having had the opportunity to learn any other way)

if one government supports (by virtue of not turning in) terrorists like alqueda, they share RESPONSIBILITY (according to our government) in what those TERRORISTS choose to do

I feel likewise, whats good for the goose is good for the gander, and if we support (by virtue of openly SUPPORTING) the assault of others, we share RESPONSIBILITY for those committing the assault and are therefore just as much a target for retaliation in the eyes of the extremist as the ones who committed the assault (thats apparently how many americans feel about muslims )

Thank God they are considering a new place to build this memorial for their fallen 9/11 Hijackers!

it was a diplomatic gesture

No, they were feeling the heat of about 85% of American Citizens.

you're both right.

You bear no responsibility for what happend to you because of the sick action of another (you could sleep on my couch any time and be absolutely safe).

9/11 was not motivated by religion. It was motivated by a want to take down the global financial system... Islam was used to further the goals of people that could not have accomplished that with out the USE of religious fanatics.

I'm always right!