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Topic: Under Fire, Obama Clarifies Support for Ground Zero Mosque
mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 08/15/10 06:19 PM
he's just trying to ruin the country 3000 Americans died there, and he stands up for the people that killed them... that yellow streak on his back is getting bigger american is a nationality muslim is a religious designation many AMERICANS are muslim and many american muslims also died,,, so what? he's s#$tting on them too... all 8 of them. He's shitting on EVERY American and doing favors and kissing all of our enemies a$$e$. its like the saying...if your not gunna be part of the solution, dont be part of the problem....

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 08/15/10 06:20 PM
A plaque would be more appropriate alongside all the others.

Kings_Knight Joined Sat 01/31/09 Posts: 3718	Sun 08/15/10 06:21 PM
A plaque would be more appropriate alongside all the others. Can C4 really be made into a plaque ... ?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/15/10 06:22 PM
Samad Afridi Ashraf Ahmad Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children) Umar Ahmad Azam Ahsan Ahmed Ali Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children) Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran) Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack) Jamal Legesse Desantis Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan) SaleemUllah Farooqi Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes) Osman Gani Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old) Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet) Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom) Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan) Nabid Hossain Shahzad Hussain Talat Hussain Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan) Yasmeen Jamal Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security) Arslan Khan Khakwani Asim Khan Ataullah Khan Ayub Khan Qasim Ali Khan Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures) Yasmeen Khan Zahida Khan Badruddin Lakhani Omar Malick Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old) Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old) Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures) Raza Mujtaba Omar Namoos Mujeb Qazi Tarranum Rahim Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old) Ameenia Rasool (33 years old) Naveed Rehman Yusuf Saad Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant) Shoman Samad Asad Samir Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November) Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan) Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust) Jamil Swaati Sanober Syed Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie) W. Wahid more than eight, for certain and just as valuable as any other american if the christians would be permitted to erect a monument , the muslims should be permitted to erect a mosque,,, show me where christians have applied and been denied the right to build and I would feel differently,,,but thats not the law I am sure atleast half of those had ties to terrorists in some way, shape or form. of course you are,,,,,

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 08/15/10 06:28 PM
Samad Afridi Ashraf Ahmad Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children) Umar Ahmad Azam Ahsan Ahmed Ali Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children) Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran) Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack) Jamal Legesse Desantis Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan) SaleemUllah Farooqi Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes) Osman Gani Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old) Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet) Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom) Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan) Nabid Hossain Shahzad Hussain Talat Hussain Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan) Yasmeen Jamal Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security) Arslan Khan Khakwani Asim Khan Ataullah Khan Ayub Khan Qasim Ali Khan Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures) Yasmeen Khan Zahida Khan Badruddin Lakhani Omar Malick Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old) Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old) Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures) Raza Mujtaba Omar Namoos Mujeb Qazi Tarranum Rahim Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old) Ameenia Rasool (33 years old) Naveed Rehman Yusuf Saad Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant) Shoman Samad Asad Samir Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November) Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan) Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust) Jamil Swaati Sanober Syed Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie) W. Wahid more than eight, for certain and just as valuable as any other american if the christians would be permitted to erect a monument , the muslims should be permitted to erect a mosque,,, show me where christians have applied and been denied the right to build and I would feel differently,,,but thats not the law I am sure atleast half of those had ties to terrorists in some way, shape or form. of course you are,,,,, Would that be a personal attack?

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 08/15/10 06:29 PM
Samad Afridi Ashraf Ahmad Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children) Umar Ahmad Azam Ahsan Ahmed Ali Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children) Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran) Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack) Jamal Legesse Desantis Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan) SaleemUllah Farooqi Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes) Osman Gani Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old) Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet) Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom) Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan) Nabid Hossain Shahzad Hussain Talat Hussain Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan) Yasmeen Jamal Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security) Arslan Khan Khakwani Asim Khan Ataullah Khan Ayub Khan Qasim Ali Khan Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures) Yasmeen Khan Zahida Khan Badruddin Lakhani Omar Malick Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old) Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old) Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures) Raza Mujtaba Omar Namoos Mujeb Qazi Tarranum Rahim Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old) Ameenia Rasool (33 years old) Naveed Rehman Yusuf Saad Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant) Shoman Samad Asad Samir Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November) Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan) Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust) Jamil Swaati Sanober Syed Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie) W. Wahid more than eight, for certain and just as valuable as any other american if the christians would be permitted to erect a monument , the muslims should be permitted to erect a mosque,,, show me where christians have applied and been denied the right to build and I would feel differently,,,but thats not the law I am sure atleast half of those had ties to terrorists in some way, shape or form. of course you are,,,,, again, so what? are you going to start praising them now too? in war, they call acceptable losses... they died for their god.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/15/10 06:31 PM
Samad Afridi Ashraf Ahmad Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children) Umar Ahmad Azam Ahsan Ahmed Ali Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children) Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran) Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack) Jamal Legesse Desantis Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan) SaleemUllah Farooqi Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes) Osman Gani Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old) Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet) Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom) Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan) Nabid Hossain Shahzad Hussain Talat Hussain Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan) Yasmeen Jamal Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security) Arslan Khan Khakwani Asim Khan Ataullah Khan Ayub Khan Qasim Ali Khan Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures) Yasmeen Khan Zahida Khan Badruddin Lakhani Omar Malick Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old) Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old) Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures) Raza Mujtaba Omar Namoos Mujeb Qazi Tarranum Rahim Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old) Ameenia Rasool (33 years old) Naveed Rehman Yusuf Saad Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant) Shoman Samad Asad Samir Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November) Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan) Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust) Jamil Swaati Sanober Syed Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie) W. Wahid more than eight, for certain and just as valuable as any other american if the christians would be permitted to erect a monument , the muslims should be permitted to erect a mosque,,, show me where christians have applied and been denied the right to build and I would feel differently,,,but thats not the law I am sure atleast half of those had ties to terrorists in some way, shape or form. of course you are,,,,, Would that be a personal attack? which statement? that half of those deceased are tied to terrorists? or that IM sure you are sure,,,,? let me think ,,,IF I were to say, IM sure most of my family are not communists,, and someone were to say Im sure you are,,,, ID say they were agreeing with me, if I truly felt comfortable about my assumption,,,, but if anyone feels personally attacked,, my apologies

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/15/10 06:34 PM
Samad Afridi Ashraf Ahmad Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children) Umar Ahmad Azam Ahsan Ahmed Ali Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children) Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran) Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack) Jamal Legesse Desantis Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan) SaleemUllah Farooqi Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes) Osman Gani Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old) Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet) Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom) Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan) Nabid Hossain Shahzad Hussain Talat Hussain Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan) Yasmeen Jamal Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security) Arslan Khan Khakwani Asim Khan Ataullah Khan Ayub Khan Qasim Ali Khan Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures) Yasmeen Khan Zahida Khan Badruddin Lakhani Omar Malick Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old) Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old) Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures) Raza Mujtaba Omar Namoos Mujeb Qazi Tarranum Rahim Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old) Ameenia Rasool (33 years old) Naveed Rehman Yusuf Saad Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant) Shoman Samad Asad Samir Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November) Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan) Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust) Jamil Swaati Sanober Syed Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie) W. Wahid more than eight, for certain and just as valuable as any other american if the christians would be permitted to erect a monument , the muslims should be permitted to erect a mosque,,, show me where christians have applied and been denied the right to build and I would feel differently,,,but thats not the law I am sure atleast half of those had ties to terrorists in some way, shape or form. of course you are,,,,, again, so what? are you going to start praising them now too? in war, they call acceptable losses... they died for their god. I havent praised anyone, neither have I dismissed death so callously on EITHER side. Just the opposite, american muslims were lost that day just as christian and non christian americans were. ALL those have the right to remember however they choose. It would be fair for christians to erect a church, it would be fair for non believers to open a community center, it should be fair for muslims to have a mosque.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 08/15/10 06:35 PM
Samad Afridi Ashraf Ahmad Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children) Umar Ahmad Azam Ahsan Ahmed Ali Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children) Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran) Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack) Jamal Legesse Desantis Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan) SaleemUllah Farooqi Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes) Osman Gani Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old) Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet) Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom) Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan) Nabid Hossain Shahzad Hussain Talat Hussain Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan) Yasmeen Jamal Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security) Arslan Khan Khakwani Asim Khan Ataullah Khan Ayub Khan Qasim Ali Khan Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures) Yasmeen Khan Zahida Khan Badruddin Lakhani Omar Malick Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old) Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old) Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures) Raza Mujtaba Omar Namoos Mujeb Qazi Tarranum Rahim Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old) Ameenia Rasool (33 years old) Naveed Rehman Yusuf Saad Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant) Shoman Samad Asad Samir Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November) Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan) Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust) Jamil Swaati Sanober Syed Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald) Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie) W. Wahid more than eight, for certain and just as valuable as any other american if the christians would be permitted to erect a monument , the muslims should be permitted to erect a mosque,,, show me where christians have applied and been denied the right to build and I would feel differently,,,but thats not the law I am sure atleast half of those had ties to terrorists in some way, shape or form. of course you are,,,,, again, so what? are you going to start praising them now too? in war, they call acceptable losses... they died for their god. I havent praised anyone, neither have I dismissed death so callously on EITHER side. Just the opposite, american muslims were lost that day just as christian and non christian americans were. ALL those have the right to remember however they choose. It would be fair for christians to erect a church, it would be fair for non believers to open a community center, it should be fair for muslims to have a mosque. American Muslim is an oxymoron.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/15/10 06:36 PM
wow, and I thought america represented religious freedom , so that americans could be ANY Religion they chose,,, Im always learning new things about this great AMERICA on these threads,,,

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 08/15/10 06:43 PM
wow, and I thought america represented religious freedom , so that americans could be ANY Religion they chose,,, Im always learning new things about this great AMERICA on these threads,,, learning that they can build it somewhere else? only 1 or 2 people are saying don't build it at all. i don't think it's unamerican to say put it somewhere else...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/15/10 06:46 PM
wow, and I thought america represented religious freedom , so that americans could be ANY Religion they chose,,, Im always learning new things about this great AMERICA on these threads,,, learning that they can build it somewhere else? only 1 or 2 people are saying don't build it at all. i don't think it's unamerican to say put it somewhere else... learning that muslims cant be americans,,, and that muslims are responsible for 9/11 and that muslim deaths on 9/11 are irrelevant,,, I dont know what 'american' is at this point, but these threads dont leave the best impression of what others apparently feel it is,,,

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 08/15/10 06:54 PM
wow, and I thought america represented religious freedom , so that americans could be ANY Religion they chose,,, Im always learning new things about this great AMERICA on these threads,,, learning that they can build it somewhere else? only 1 or 2 people are saying don't build it at all. i don't think it's unamerican to say put it somewhere else... learning that muslims cant be americans,,, and that muslims are responsible for 9/11 and that muslim deaths on 9/11 are irrelevant,,, I dont know what 'american' is at this point, but these threads dont leave the best impression of what others apparently feel it is,,, i only speak for me, and my point all along has been put it somewhere else.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/15/10 07:00 PM
wow, and I thought america represented religious freedom , so that americans could be ANY Religion they chose,,, Im always learning new things about this great AMERICA on these threads,,, learning that they can build it somewhere else? only 1 or 2 people are saying don't build it at all. i don't think it's unamerican to say put it somewhere else... learning that muslims cant be americans,,, and that muslims are responsible for 9/11 and that muslim deaths on 9/11 are irrelevant,,, I dont know what 'american' is at this point, but these threads dont leave the best impression of what others apparently feel it is,,, i only speak for me, and my point all along has been put it somewhere else. duly noted and respected, I agree it might help but my concern is that the anti-muslim culture will end up pushing for it not to be built at all near the area where both muslims and christians lost lives.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 08/15/10 07:01 PM
wow, and I thought america represented religious freedom , so that americans could be ANY Religion they chose,,, Im always learning new things about this great AMERICA on these threads,,, learning that they can build it somewhere else? only 1 or 2 people are saying don't build it at all. i don't think it's unamerican to say put it somewhere else... learning that muslims cant be americans,,, and that muslims are responsible for 9/11 and that muslim deaths on 9/11 are irrelevant,,, I dont know what 'american' is at this point, but these threads dont leave the best impression of what others apparently feel it is,,, i only speak for me, and my point all along has been put it somewhere else. duly noted and respected, I agree it might help but my concern is that the anti-muslim culture will end up pushing for it not to be built at all near the area where both muslims and christians lost lives. wait till the gay bar is put next to it....lol

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sun 08/15/10 07:05 PM
I cannot tolerate the intolerable. I don't care how liberal or progressive someone is. If they tolerate an occult that condones and praises screwin' children in the name of Allah or Mohamed, that same person should have no problem condoning pedophilia just for the sake of it. Islam and mohamed are just plain sick and perverted Anyone who would defend islam, defends all pedophiles. That's my opinion and the apparent opinion of the majority of America. That's my opinion

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 08/15/10 07:07 PM
put the gay bar on one side, Jewish holocaust memorial on the other side, and a pork meat bbq across the street... considering the so called diversity of new york, IM not sure it couldnt work,,,,

Kings_Knight Joined Sat 01/31/09 Posts: 3718	Sun 08/15/10 07:12 PM
We've already SEEN the 'benefits' of 'diversity' ... 'Diversity' is NOT our friend ...

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sun 08/15/10 07:17 PM


Atlantis75 Joined Wed 12/03/08 Posts: 8581	Sun 08/15/10 07:43 PM
Sometimes I get an impression that Obama purposely trying to destroy his own reputation and presidency. Either that, or he just doesn't have a solid idea about anything. YOu know a man can be wrong about something, or right about something, but it's not possible to be both at the same time. Why even stick his nose into this matter anyhow? Let the State or the city decide what they want. If the people vote it down, than it's out. If they voted in, then it's in whatever it is. That's how he should have handled it, but apparently he rather likes to say things that will be controversial and for a while now, he is just keep ruining himself in the process.