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Topic: Obama backs controversial New York mosque project
msharmony's photo
Mon 08/16/10 10:02 AM

Then, if Islam is so readily accepted, it should be discrimination to lock old men up just because they knocked 'em off some young tail.

As long as they intended to marry 'em.




I agree, I dont think there should be a double standard that teens are ready enough to have sex that they should have planned parenthood and condoms in school, but they cant have sex UNLESS the partner is a certain age


sex is sex,,,,if its gonna be touted as 'natural and normal'. it shouldnt be a crime unless it is forced on someone.

I personally would not take part in sex with a teen but I dont think it should be illegal if sex with a peer isnt. IF marriage isnt the mandate, the only mandate should be puberty. That makes me rare, and will take heat, but thats how I feel.

willing2's photo
Mon 08/16/10 10:02 AM

I wouldnt support marriage to an 8 year old that is based in sex, although I could understand ceremonital marriage to an 8 year old for purposes of non sexual spousal duties(having a man to take care of her and having responsibilities to take care of the home)

Once a muslim takes the 8 year old as a wife, she is his property do do as he wishes.

He can legally take her any time he wishes.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/16/10 10:03 AM


I wouldnt support marriage to an 8 year old that is based in sex, although I could understand ceremonital marriage to an 8 year old for purposes of non sexual spousal duties(having a man to take care of her and having responsibilities to take care of the home)

Once a muslim takes the 8 year old as a wife, she is his property do do as he wishes.

He can legally take her any time he wishes.



I understand that, that is the reason for the clarification about the conditions of the 'marriage'

sex based-no
role based- no problem

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 08/16/10 10:11 AM
EFF Islam, Lets just Nuke Mecca to prove a point...

The "eagle" will wash them down with fire just like the Quaran says!

Then where will they be without the "Heart" of their religion?


Like respect, tolerance is given where tolerance is offered! Since Islam has no tolerance for the rest of us...


See where I am going!

How many more have to suffer under these extremists prompted by their faith practice for people to see they have to be stopped.

Hell, the Mexican Drug cartels are now using their methods using car bombs and they are having terrible effects with them!

willing2's photo
Mon 08/16/10 10:15 AM
The, if she's ready to bleed, she's ready to butcher theory don't hold a lot of water.

Just recently a man had him a thirteen year old wife. She said she wasn't ready. He and her Momma said she was.

They tied her to a chair and he did his legal thang.

He ripped a hole in her vaginal wall and she bled to death.

He couldn't be charged with a crime because he was within his rights.

The Momma didn't give him a refund.

He broke it, he bought it.

Let's build that Mega-Mosque and celebrate pedophilia.

But first, set all the pedophiles loose and forget branding them.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/16/10 10:47 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 08/16/10 10:50 AM

The, if she's ready to bleed, she's ready to butcher theory don't hold a lot of water.

Just recently a man had him a thirteen year old wife. She said she wasn't ready. He and her Momma said she was.

They tied her to a chair and he did his legal thang.

He ripped a hole in her vaginal wall and she bled to death.

He couldn't be charged with a crime because he was within his rights.

The Momma didn't give him a refund.

He broke it, he bought it.

Let's build that Mega-Mosque and celebrate pedophilia.

But first, set all the pedophiles loose and forget branding them.




I think I covered that in FORCED sex,,,,

who was it that said the confederacy werent the only slaveholders?

likewise, muslim men arent the only one who have rapists among them, or men who beat and torture their wife, or men who force themself upon children

we just dont keep an account in our criminal records of what religion people claim to be




the only things that truly seperates these kinds of traditions and their popularity is , time and culture

it was once completely legal to discipline your wife, amongst christians
it was once completely legal to demand sex from your wife , amongst christians
it was once completely legal to have sex with what we now call a 'minor', amongst christians


but I guess there is some justification for why we should make the action of rape about someones faith,,,

RKISIT's photo
Mon 08/16/10 10:57 AM


The, if she's ready to bleed, she's ready to butcher theory don't hold a lot of water.

Just recently a man had him a thirteen year old wife. She said she wasn't ready. He and her Momma said she was.

They tied her to a chair and he did his legal thang.

He ripped a hole in her vaginal wall and she bled to death.

He couldn't be charged with a crime because he was within his rights.

The Momma didn't give him a refund.

He broke it, he bought it.

Let's build that Mega-Mosque and celebrate pedophilia.

But first, set all the pedophiles loose and forget branding them.




I think I covered that in FORCED sex,,,,

who was it that said the confederacy werent the only slaveholders?

likewise, muslim men arent the only one who have rapists among them, or men who beat and torture their wife, or men who force themself upon children

we just dont keep an account in our criminal records of what religion people claim to be




the only things that truly seperates these kinds of traditions and their popularity is , time and culture

it was once completely legal to discipline your wife, amongst christians
it was once completely legal to demand sex from your wife , amongst christians
it was once completely legal to have sex with what we now call a 'minor', amongst christians


but I guess there is some justification for why we should make the action of rape about someones faith,,,
alot of serial killers and people in prison for murder are of the christain faith,anyone can break the law here in america but when caught a judge and jury 99% of the time don't care what religion you follow

willing2's photo
Mon 08/16/10 10:59 AM


it was once completely legal to discipline your wife, amongst christians
it was once completely legal to demand sex from your wife , amongst christians
it was once completely legal to have sex with what we now call a 'minor', amongst christians

Once was.

In Islam it still is and the popularity among Libs and Progressives is growing.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/16/10 11:18 AM



The, if she's ready to bleed, she's ready to butcher theory don't hold a lot of water.

Just recently a man had him a thirteen year old wife. She said she wasn't ready. He and her Momma said she was.

They tied her to a chair and he did his legal thang.

He ripped a hole in her vaginal wall and she bled to death.

He couldn't be charged with a crime because he was within his rights.

The Momma didn't give him a refund.

He broke it, he bought it.

Let's build that Mega-Mosque and celebrate pedophilia.

But first, set all the pedophiles loose and forget branding them.




I think I covered that in FORCED sex,,,,

who was it that said the confederacy werent the only slaveholders?

likewise, muslim men arent the only one who have rapists among them, or men who beat and torture their wife, or men who force themself upon children

we just dont keep an account in our criminal records of what religion people claim to be




the only things that truly seperates these kinds of traditions and their popularity is , time and culture

it was once completely legal to discipline your wife, amongst christians
it was once completely legal to demand sex from your wife , amongst christians
it was once completely legal to have sex with what we now call a 'minor', amongst christians


but I guess there is some justification for why we should make the action of rape about someones faith,,,
alot of serial killers and people in prison for murder are of the christain faith,anyone can break the law here in america but when caught a judge and jury 99% of the time don't care what religion you follow


thank goodness, we have the freedom to practice whatever religion we want AS LONG AS we dont break the written laws of the land by doing so

no photo
Mon 08/16/10 11:21 AM

" ... thank goodness, we have the freedom to practice whatever religion we want AS LONG AS we dont break the written laws of the land by doing so ... "


Right. If you're a WOMAN and you want to 'practice islam', you CAN'T BE SEEN if you're in a 'mosque' - you have to be OUT OF SIGHT of the MALES in a separate room ... 'religion of peace and tolerance' my asss ...

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/16/10 11:43 AM
Women entering mosques, are not prevented through neither the Koran nor the Sunna, but there are regulations on how a woman in a mosque shall behave. Mosques can be segregated, either in time, or in space. But in some Muslim countries, women entering mosques have not been welcomed, and mosques can be closed to women, either by local rules, or by habit. In Turkey women can easily go into any mosque


http://www.allaboutturkey.com/mosque.htm

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 08/16/10 02:32 PM

Women entering mosques, are not prevented through neither the Koran nor the Sunna, but there are regulations on how a woman in a mosque shall behave. Mosques can be segregated, either in time, or in space. But in some Muslim countries, women entering mosques have not been welcomed, and mosques can be closed to women, either by local rules, or by habit. In Turkey women can easily go into any mosque


http://www.allaboutturkey.com/mosque.htm


And yet you fail to see that allowing freedom in this instance also allows the freedom to inflict harm on others? There are times when people take advantage of their freedoms. Hell, does this mean I can live like a Squidbilly, inbreed, commit crime, and hate Chalkies becasue I can?

Now come on. I never did get an answer from you before, can you see yourself living by Shaihira law?

Do you really want to be a part of a misogynistic belief. Christianity is dying. So we are to trade one brand of ignorance for another???

s1owhand's photo
Mon 08/16/10 05:08 PM

I tell you what Issac, if we let a handful of people that are offended decide that the rights of others can be trampled on, then those that you took the time to list, have died in vain.


By handful of people I suppose you mean the overwhelming majority of
people in america....

laugh

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/16/10 05:24 PM


Women entering mosques, are not prevented through neither the Koran nor the Sunna, but there are regulations on how a woman in a mosque shall behave. Mosques can be segregated, either in time, or in space. But in some Muslim countries, women entering mosques have not been welcomed, and mosques can be closed to women, either by local rules, or by habit. In Turkey women can easily go into any mosque


http://www.allaboutturkey.com/mosque.htm


And yet you fail to see that allowing freedom in this instance also allows the freedom to inflict harm on others? There are times when people take advantage of their freedoms. Hell, does this mean I can live like a Squidbilly, inbreed, commit crime, and hate Chalkies becasue I can?

Now come on. I never did get an answer from you before, can you see yourself living by Shaihira law?

Do you really want to be a part of a misogynistic belief. Christianity is dying. So we are to trade one brand of ignorance for another???



I fail to see it. Muslims have been living in this countries for years and abiding by our laws, I dont see overwhelming evidence that THIS Group of muslims would do any different and if they did,,there would be laws to address that too.

msharmony's photo
Mon 08/16/10 05:24 PM


Women entering mosques, are not prevented through neither the Koran nor the Sunna, but there are regulations on how a woman in a mosque shall behave. Mosques can be segregated, either in time, or in space. But in some Muslim countries, women entering mosques have not been welcomed, and mosques can be closed to women, either by local rules, or by habit. In Turkey women can easily go into any mosque


http://www.allaboutturkey.com/mosque.htm


And yet you fail to see that allowing freedom in this instance also allows the freedom to inflict harm on others? There are times when people take advantage of their freedoms. Hell, does this mean I can live like a Squidbilly, inbreed, commit crime, and hate Chalkies becasue I can?

Now come on. I never did get an answer from you before, can you see yourself living by Shaihira law?

Do you really want to be a part of a misogynistic belief. Christianity is dying. So we are to trade one brand of ignorance for another???



I fail to see it. Muslims have been living in this countries for years and abiding by our laws, I dont see overwhelming evidence that THIS Group of muslims would do any different and if they did,,there would be laws to address that too.

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