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Topic: Racial Profiling In Arizona?
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Sat 07/17/10 03:31 PM








The migrants that you speak of came here LEGALY and YES they did help make America what it is today. I'm fine with anybody that comes here LEGALY, adjusts to OUR way of live and doesn't expect me to adjust to their way of life or support them.




Actually there are many many white folks who did not come here "legally" who have been here generations now.

Legality wasn't an issue years ago so white folks ancestors did not have to jump hoops if they didn't come through Ellis Island or whatever. You were here and you were here, that is all.

So white people can climb off their high horse about it.
Their ancestors might be illegally here too.

Unless you are native American you can't claim ownership of this country because you might be born of an illegal crossing into here.

Now lets get to adjusting to others. We should be speaking more than one language here and Spanish is a good start. We are becoming a world community.

I hate the old American stick in the mud or up my butt attitude that we don't need improvement here. We have lots of room for improvement and one of them is learning more languages.

As for supporting others unless you pay income taxes at the end of the year and not get a refund, you don't pay for anyone else, so moot point for most of the people on this site.




~whips out citizen papers~ I would be more than willing to show my LEGAL right to be here. If they want to add it in the bill go for it I will show gleefully to help the problem (if any). I wouldnt care if it would help the HUGE PROBLEM we have in Az.


and that is what they need to do, MANDATE everyone show citizenship papers when stopped, and not just those 'suspected' of being an illegal immigrant


:banana: :banana: YAY! :banana: :banana: Sounds like a plan I would TOTALLY! Next step... How would the american people implement the government to change the bill? I would be first in line!:banana:




I would suggest something like the AA policies. IN those areas of the country where the numbers PROVE there is a high incidence of immigrants entering the country, there should be positive policies in place to counteract that,,such as mandatory citizenship verification for police , and mandatory citizenship verification for schools and employers.


Now that I would stand up and fight for! I am willing to do MY part to help our current problem by alleviating the "racial" aspect out of it. Pull me over, take me in. I wont like it...but WE have to do something NEW!

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Sat 07/17/10 03:35 PM







well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.


Ever heard of fake ids? Fake documentation most people don't look hard at (food stamps, des).


Sorry wrong again.

We send all ids to the INS for verification of validity and we verify all other ids too.

I worked for the welfare department.

I can tell you that it was less than one percent of fraud in the welfare department. In a big city too.

It is all hate propaganda designed to make people hate another human so that the racists can get their way.

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Sat 07/17/10 03:35 PM









The migrants that you speak of came here LEGALY and YES they did help make America what it is today. I'm fine with anybody that comes here LEGALY, adjusts to OUR way of live and doesn't expect me to adjust to their way of life or support them.




Actually there are many many white folks who did not come here "legally" who have been here generations now.

Legality wasn't an issue years ago so white folks ancestors did not have to jump hoops if they didn't come through Ellis Island or whatever. You were here and you were here, that is all.

So white people can climb off their high horse about it.
Their ancestors might be illegally here too.

Unless you are native American you can't claim ownership of this country because you might be born of an illegal crossing into here.

Now lets get to adjusting to others. We should be speaking more than one language here and Spanish is a good start. We are becoming a world community.

I hate the old American stick in the mud or up my butt attitude that we don't need improvement here. We have lots of room for improvement and one of them is learning more languages.

As for supporting others unless you pay income taxes at the end of the year and not get a refund, you don't pay for anyone else, so moot point for most of the people on this site.




~whips out citizen papers~ I would be more than willing to show my LEGAL right to be here. If they want to add it in the bill go for it I will show gleefully to help the problem (if any). I wouldnt care if it would help the HUGE PROBLEM we have in Az.


and that is what they need to do, MANDATE everyone show citizenship papers when stopped, and not just those 'suspected' of being an illegal immigrant


:banana: :banana: YAY! :banana: :banana: Sounds like a plan I would TOTALLY! Next step... How would the american people implement the government to change the bill? I would be first in line!:banana:




I would suggest something like the AA policies. IN those areas of the country where the numbers PROVE there is a high incidence of immigrants entering the country, there should be positive policies in place to counteract that,,such as mandatory citizenship verification for police , and mandatory citizenship verification for schools and employers.


Now that I would stand up and fight for! I am willing to do MY part to help our current problem by alleviating the "racial" aspect out of it. Pull me over, take me in. I wont like it...but WE have to do something NEW!


We are on the same page here for sure. I have no issue with equality. If the police treat all people EQUALLY, unless or until they break a law, its all peachy. IF they ask some people for verification which they dont ask of others,,thats not so peachy.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:38 PM

The law as it stands is promoting racial injustice and needs to be struck down.

If the problem needs to be solved, it needs to be solved justly.

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Sat 07/17/10 03:39 PM








well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.


Ever heard of fake ids? Fake documentation most people don't look hard at (food stamps, des).


Sorry wrong again.

We send all ids to the INS for verification of validity and we verify all other ids too.

I worked for the welfare department.

I can tell you that it was less than one percent of fraud in the welfare department. In a big city too.

It is all hate propaganda designed to make people hate another human so that the racists can get their way.


Ive seen it! slaphead frustrated frustrated Lord grant me serenity...flowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:40 PM









well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.


Ever heard of fake ids? Fake documentation most people don't look hard at (food stamps, des).


Sorry wrong again.

We send all ids to the INS for verification of validity and we verify all other ids too.

I worked for the welfare department.

I can tell you that it was less than one percent of fraud in the welfare department. In a big city too.

It is all hate propaganda designed to make people hate another human so that the racists can get their way.


Ive seen it! slaphead frustrated frustrated Lord grant me serenity...flowerforyou



well, at least politics brings more people to God,,lol


Thomas3474's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:41 PM
If you are a hispanic living in Arizona and support this law are you a racist also?The majority of hispanics living in Arizona do support this law.

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Sat 07/17/10 03:41 PM










The migrants that you speak of came here LEGALY and YES they did help make America what it is today. I'm fine with anybody that comes here LEGALY, adjusts to OUR way of live and doesn't expect me to adjust to their way of life or support them.




Actually there are many many white folks who did not come here "legally" who have been here generations now.

Legality wasn't an issue years ago so white folks ancestors did not have to jump hoops if they didn't come through Ellis Island or whatever. You were here and you were here, that is all.

So white people can climb off their high horse about it.
Their ancestors might be illegally here too.

Unless you are native American you can't claim ownership of this country because you might be born of an illegal crossing into here.

Now lets get to adjusting to others. We should be speaking more than one language here and Spanish is a good start. We are becoming a world community.

I hate the old American stick in the mud or up my butt attitude that we don't need improvement here. We have lots of room for improvement and one of them is learning more languages.

As for supporting others unless you pay income taxes at the end of the year and not get a refund, you don't pay for anyone else, so moot point for most of the people on this site.




~whips out citizen papers~ I would be more than willing to show my LEGAL right to be here. If they want to add it in the bill go for it I will show gleefully to help the problem (if any). I wouldnt care if it would help the HUGE PROBLEM we have in Az.


and that is what they need to do, MANDATE everyone show citizenship papers when stopped, and not just those 'suspected' of being an illegal immigrant


:banana: :banana: YAY! :banana: :banana: Sounds like a plan I would TOTALLY! Next step... How would the american people implement the government to change the bill? I would be first in line!:banana:




I would suggest something like the AA policies. IN those areas of the country where the numbers PROVE there is a high incidence of immigrants entering the country, there should be positive policies in place to counteract that,,such as mandatory citizenship verification for police , and mandatory citizenship verification for schools and employers.


Now that I would stand up and fight for! I am willing to do MY part to help our current problem by alleviating the "racial" aspect out of it. Pull me over, take me in. I wont like it...but WE have to do something NEW!


We are on the same page here for sure. I have no issue with equality. If the police treat all people EQUALLY, unless or until they break a law, its all peachy. IF they ask some people for verification which they dont ask of others,,thats not so peachy.


Thats what Im talking about.:smile: :banana: In the long run it would benefit everyone and also it would return the misplaced illegals.

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Sat 07/17/10 03:41 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Sat 07/17/10 03:42 PM









well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.


Ever heard of fake ids? Fake documentation most people don't look hard at (food stamps, des).


Sorry wrong again.

We send all ids to the INS for verification of validity and we verify all other ids too.

I worked for the welfare department.

I can tell you that it was less than one percent of fraud in the welfare department. In a big city too.

It is all hate propaganda designed to make people hate another human so that the racists can get their way.


Ive seen it! slaphead frustrated frustrated Lord grant me serenity...flowerforyou


Seen what?

Fake IdS?

You cannot have seen someone commit fraud though because you cannot be sure that is what you are seeing.

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Sat 07/17/10 03:42 PM

If you are a hispanic living in Arizona and support this law are you a racist also?The majority of hispanics living in Arizona do support this law.


I know! :thumbsup:

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:43 PM

If you are a hispanic living in Arizona and support this law are you a racist also?The majority of hispanics living in Arizona do support this law.


They don't realize what they are supporting...lol

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Sat 07/17/10 03:45 PM










well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.


Ever heard of fake ids? Fake documentation most people don't look hard at (food stamps, des).


Sorry wrong again.

We send all ids to the INS for verification of validity and we verify all other ids too.

I worked for the welfare department.

I can tell you that it was less than one percent of fraud in the welfare department. In a big city too.

It is all hate propaganda designed to make people hate another human so that the racists can get their way.


Ive seen it! slaphead frustrated frustrated Lord grant me serenity...flowerforyou


Seen what?

Fake IdS?

You cannot have seen someone commit fraud though because you cannot be sure that is what you are seeing.


Yes, I have seen fake ids. I will not belabor a point that I know I have seen. I will never be able to prove that and don't care if I do. When you are known to be an illegal with a perfectly fake legal id ...uhh...its fake. OK?

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Sat 07/17/10 03:47 PM
http://latinonrc.com/nevada-hispanic-caucus-chair-mario-rocha-issues-statement-support-california-and-arizona-conservativ

Nevada Hispanic Caucus Chair Mario Rocha Issues a Statement in Support of California and Arizona Conservative Latinos


May 21, 2010 (702) 236-2070

Las Vegas – In a statement by chair Mario Rocha, The Nevada Hispanic Caucus joins California and Arizona in support of Arizona’s Senate Bill 1070.

“As the chair of the NHC, I join in support with Chair Rios and Chairman Hernandez to the Arizona’s Bill 1070 in honor of the state sovereignty and our constitutional rights. We are supporting conservative candidates that stand with us on conservative family values, fiscal responsibility of small government, fiscal stewardship and the defense of our constitutional rights. We are proud to endorse Tibi Ellis for Nevada Assembly District 5 for her dedication to serve our community and her relentless defense of conservative values.” I am happy to share statements from Chairman Rios and Chairman Hernandez as a sign of unity of conservative Latinos in the tristate.

“I was in Arizona during the signing of the recent immigration bill and saw some of the protests in opposition of it. I have reviewed the Bill and commend Arizona’s legislature for adhering and not overstepping existing federal law. American Latino’s are proud of their heritage and we equally honor the country that has offered so much to so many people. While there may be groups who oppose the Arizona Bill, it is not as rigid nor does it have the requirements of other state immigration laws such as those found in California. It is also important to recognize that Congress is given the power over regulating immigration and as long as state do not overstep that boundary, it is within their rights to enforce any law that is not unconstitutional within their borders.” Latino National
Republican Coalition national Chairman Richard Rios.

The Nevada Hispanic Caucus joins, The Latino National Republican Coalition’s and its partner and recognized state chapter affiliate, the Arizona Latino Republican Association. Arizona conservative Latinos issued the following statement through its state Chairman Jesse Hernandez.

“The longstanding presence of undocumented residents, increasing public safety incidents involving brazen criminal behavior such as the human smuggling of illegal immigrants and drug trafficking, as well as growing frustration with the lack of a comprehensive federal solution to address security and international crossings at Arizona’s border with Mexico, came to a head in the Senate’s passage and Governor Brewer’s signing of Senate Bill 1070.

As imperfect as Senate Bill 1070 may be, 60% of Americans support Arizona’s position highlighting the need to address and rebuild America’s immigration policy. Through its many attempts to secure Arizona’s border with fences, border patrol agents and other sophisticated resources, the federal government has only offered short term, largely ineffective and expensive solutions. The desire to cross the border is relentless - to the point of the discovery of underground tunnel passages. To effectively secure Arizona’s border will require increasing the federal government’s formal presence along the border states in the form of robust border security that 1) Extinguishes the demand for a black market 2) Addresses high volume of entry, 3) Identifies appropriate avenues of documentation 4) Distinguishes between temporary workers and those interested in a path to full citizenship.

Arizona is a state rich in cultural history and like the rest of America welcomes legal immigrants. It has become increasingly tired of the illegal entry of those crossing its southern border without appropriate documentation and expects the federal government to enforce its laws based on equal justice. Serious immigrants desire to live/work in the United States and many become citizens to escape their countries’ corrupt oppression. The rule of law
makes America special. Let’s respect it for the sake of our citizens, legal immigrants and future immigrants.” Chairman Hernandez.

“I am honored to be working with such principled and dedicated leaders and volunteers throughout the country. Together we will work to elect conservative Latino candidates as well as promote legislation that supports our family values, economic freedom, and opportunities for future generations.” Chairman Rios concluded.

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Sat 07/17/10 03:47 PM


If you are a hispanic living in Arizona and support this law are you a racist also?The majority of hispanics living in Arizona do support this law.


They don't realize what they are supporting...lol


frustrated frustrated frustrated Yeah they just dont anything. They shore don't watch that box on the entertainment center. YOU go with that! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Sat 07/17/10 03:51 PM
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/70-of-arizona-voters-support-immigration-bill-only-23-agree-with-obama/


70% of likely Arizona voters agree with the new immigration bill that was signed into law today.
Only 23% of likely voters in Arizona agree with Barack Obama and oppose the bill.
So, who’s the misguided one?
NumbersUSA reported:

A new Rasmussen poll reveals that 70% of likely voters in Arizona support the new illegal immigration bill passed by the State Legislature. Only 23% oppose the bill. If signed into law, the bill would make it a crime to be in the state of Arizona illegally.

A majority of Arizona likely voters (53%), however, did express concern about if the bill will cause racial profiling. Forty-six percent expressed no concern.

The poll also asked likely voters how immigration will impact their decision at the polls, and 83% of Arizona residents said a candidate’s position on immigration issues is important. Seventy-three percent of respondents also said that it’s more important that Congress secure the border than offer an amnesty for the nation’s 12 million illegal aliens.

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Sat 07/17/10 03:52 PM



If you are a hispanic living in Arizona and support this law are you a racist also?The majority of hispanics living in Arizona do support this law.


They don't realize what they are supporting...lol


frustrated frustrated frustrated Yeah they just dont anything. They shore don't watch that box on the entertainment center. YOU go with that! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


Yeah that statement was slaphead I think no matter what education you have you can understand what this bill is talking about.

kayak69's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:55 PM
Why won't anybody answer my earlier question?

Is getting stopped and searched because of long hair and beard (multiple times) profiling?

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:56 PM
The Hispanics don't realize how much their lives will change when you allow white folks to perpetrate racism against you.

As to the box comment, it doesn't apply to me.


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Sat 07/17/10 03:57 PM
So, because you don't watch tv, they don't? Interesting.

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Sat 07/17/10 04:00 PM

The Hispanics don't realize how much their lives will change when you allow white folks to perpetrate racism against you.

As to the box comment, it doesn't apply to me.




Yes they all live in holes, we take them out every once in awhile to eat and go potty. But the legal hispanics are not allowed to watch tv, listen to the radio, speak to their friends (some illegal), nothing. We have them contained so they cant hear or understand. frustrated frustrated frustrated rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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