I have learned that there are a lot of people saying they live by gods laws well then if they do then why are these people not living by the law of fornication ? The way I see it is you have 2 paths to choose from there is no middle. I have had men who say they live the christian ways but its ok to have sex out of side of marriage, this is wrong. Don't get me wrong here cuz there are women doing it as well. One of the easiest things to do is hide behind the word christian. Something to think about huh.

That's whats wrong with the world and gives christianity in general a bad look. People drink, drug, and party on Friday/Saturday and attend church Sunday and act like a total saint. So many of them do this, it makes it almost look like it's ok and Christianity kinda permits this. And that is absolutely not true. Yes we all fall short in the glory of God and stumble from time to time......... but nottice that stumble from TIME TO TIME, not every weekend and not planned ahead of the time, it's accidents. But back to your post lol, yes very true and i believe is why the bible states that many false prophets will come in his name. Kind of goes hand in hand with how these people live their lives.

It is just a shame huh how people play the game. I fell into that for some time in my life but as I grew stronger in the lord I found that it really isn't important to have a relationship. Don't get me wrong lol I would love to spend my life with someone but not in a way that is prohibited by god. My last boyfriend left me cuz I just couldn't live that way no longer and it is ok cuz I know I am doing what is right in gods eyes. I know that god will and is taking care of me.

amen, i have recently had a similar thing go on in my life. We just have to stay strong in the lord. We may have lost someone we thought we wanted to be with, but we have gained so much more. That's the problem i have sometimes and i'm sure lots of people do, i think about what i could be doing like drugs, immoral sexual relations, and so on. But thankfully God has came in and stopped me, and in the times i ignored my conscience i feel thankful Jesus is there to forgive me.

I know what you mean and ya know what! it feels really good to know this huh lol. So I look at it this way if it means that I am a lone then so be it cuz really i am not a lone I have Jesus and nothing can take that from me. Cuz of him I am on the right path. My ex was a preachers son lol yep he was, and he would always say > a good relationship is not based on sex, it is just a perk < well now ya don't see him around now do we lol. Gods loves me and that is all I care about and also to know he is next to me always and picks me up always. I wear his armor everyday and it is his strength that is all i need.

amen!!

My favorite thing to say is "With God on your side, who can be against you?"

True and what a blessing that is. My faith and love for him has made me strong again and with him I will stay that way. Ok now have to feed animals and get ready for church. Have a blessed day. Later....Sue

I think there are more than two paths. I mean, if we are going by the right path and the wrong path,, than there are two. But there are many roads to be taken on the wrong path.



As to the sex, the bible isnt CLEAR about it, but I believe sex inside of marriage is the SAFEST choice spiritually, that doesnt mean that people dont get tempted and fall short in that area though. I think people are scared of marriage, but they often do consider themselves in a commitment just the same which makes sex seem justifiable (cling to the love of your youth, kind of implies commitment more so than a marital ceremony).

I think people fall short, I dont think that makes them fall out of favor with God though. I think the key to 'Christianity' for me, is confessing jesus as lord, loving God with all your heart, consistently seeking to live a life pleasing to God and when you fall short, repent of your sins. I dont think there is achristian that will never commit any sin, but there are many confused into thinking right is wrong and wrong is right,, because of the values of the world.

The god talks about it a lot all thru the bible as in lust, fornication, and marriage. We all have our short comings and yes we are to seek god but as he also talks a lot about lust, sex and how he is against fornication. We are to seek him but he also says we are to live by his laws. We all sin now and then as well cuz we are not perfect but if we know we are about to do something that we know is a sin in his eyes then it is wrong. I have fallen to this at a time in my life but not anymore cuz knowing it is a sin well that is not pleasing god any now so I would rather do without and know they this pleases him then to live with the fact that I made him unhappy with me because I knew better to start with. There are 2 paths the right way and the wrong way and it is up to us to choose, he gave us the choice. It says that there is know middle.

Gives some credence to Matthew 6:30-33, huh?

[30] For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. [31] ¶But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. [32] Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

I think what it all comes down to is trust. Trusting God to guide us into that right relationship at the right time. He knows us. He knows what our desires are. If we know Him, we know His heart is to give us hope and a great future. One aspect of a great future can be having an amazing fulfilling relationship with a spouse. I feel God does make it clear, what His plan is for sex. I do agree that, like any other sin, sex outside of marriage is not a deal breaker. God does not all of a sudden say that the blood of His Son is no longer enough. But, what it does, it starts to build a division between God and us. When we choose to step outside of His plan for us, and take on our own version of it, we find more and more ways that we "know better" and eventually it totally erodes the real, living aspect of that relationship with God, and it turns into going through a lot of motions and rituals, because it is the "right" thing to do. God wants SO much more for us than just a slightly better life than we would have had, because we are following some of His guidelines. He presents what is best. If we go away from that, we are settling for less. He is still the loving Father that longs to bring us back into what is best.

I do understand what it is you are saying g but he does not use the word sex it is lust and or fornication and he is against both, they are both a sin and I for one I would not want to have to stand before God and have to account for this or anything else for that matter lol. We all sin and it is our job to learn from him and his word so that we can avoid falling into the trap. I fell into it and now I have and am working on being and doing what is right in his eyes and his ways and not of the worlds ways.

Been there.
Done that.
Regretted it.
Paid a price for it.
Confessed it.
Repented from it.
Received God's forgiveness for it.
Don't try it because you won't like its result.
Didn't plan to do it.
Did it because of a personal weakness.
Won't do it again.
Recovered from it.
Those who haven't done it aren't superior to those who have because
"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us."(1 John 1:8) and because
"For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it” (James 2:10).