Topic: Is Knowledge a Gift from Satan
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Thu 06/24/10 04:01 AM

You had the answere in your question. Lieing is a sin. Not lieing to God, but just straight across lieing. You can't lie to God anyways, God knows all and the 9th commandment is thou shalt not bear false witness........ thou shalt not lie.

So right there Abraham used his free will to disobey God by lieing


Cowboy.....what was the lie that Abraham supposedly told?



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Thu 06/24/10 04:08 AM
Edited by 2sparrows on Thu 06/24/10 04:11 AM







2sparrows wrote:
Are you afraid to commit to a answer? .


funches wrote:
I never sign a contract before I read it...all you had to do was post like you been doing and I will post a response like I was doing


2sparrows wrote:
Genesis chapter20
A story of Abraham and his wife Sarah;
Abraham lies about his wife. The king takes her to become his wife. Before it can be consumated the king has a dream from God, finds out the truth. The king sends Abraham and his Wife away with sheep, cattle,male and female slaves,and a thousand shekels of silver (about 50,000 dollars) and said they could settle anywhere in his country.


Hmmm...Abraham lied and got rich...Go figure


Maybe Newton and Abraham live in parallel universes?
One called "Law" and the other called "Grace"



funches wrote:
Matthew 19:24 ....And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

perhaps you should pay more attention to what's in the bible ....just because Abraham became rich do not mean there is no consequences.... ...



2sparrows wrote:
Sorry funches you've been caught red handed: The verse you quoted...you stopped a couple verses short:

Matthew 19:26
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.

I think I am paying pretty close attention to what the Bible says, But thank you for your concern and advice.I will see if I can improve.



funches wrote:
perhaps you should read further and show where it states that there would be no consequences for what Abraham did


As you wish, *reading* *turning page* *reading* *turning page* *reading* *turning page*......Ah, hear it is (pun intended) a mere 200 pages later;


Romans 4:1-5
What then shall we say that Abraham,our forefather, discovered in this matter? If in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about-- but not before God. What does the scripture say? Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness
Now when a mans works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as a obligation. However to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.

*Merry-go-round squeaking to a stop*



2sparrow...why are you still ranting on about Abraham...you were supposed to provide an example of how someone could use their "Free Will" to disobey God without consequences......you claim that Abraham "supposedly" lied to the king and receive profit from it....the king is not God....so can you explain what Abraham "supposedly" lying to the king have to do with Abraham disobeying God ...where is the disobedience to God?


"2sparrow...why are you still ranting on about Abraham"

Because you asked me to? frustrated

What do you mean "supposedly"...I gave you the reference frustrated

As to your last question; CowboyGH already pretty much nailed it.

*getting off merry-go-round while it is still stopped* waving

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Thu 06/24/10 04:13 AM

"2sparrow...why are you still ranting on about Abraham"

Because you asked me to? frustrated

What do you mean "supposedly"...I gave you the reference frustrated

As to your last question; CowboyGH already pretty much nailed it.

*getting off merry-go-round while it is still stopped* waving


2sparrow...soon you will find out that Cowboy generally spread false information


so again what was the lie that you claim Abraham made?

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Thu 06/24/10 04:29 AM


You had the answere in your question. Lieing is a sin. Not lieing to God, but just straight across lieing. You can't lie to God anyways, God knows all and the 9th commandment is thou shalt not bear false witness........ thou shalt not lie.

So right there Abraham used his free will to disobey God by lieing


Cowboy.....what was the lie that Abraham supposedly told?





In the book of Genesis 12:11-20
Abraham has asked Sarai to lie and say that she was his sister.

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Thu 06/24/10 04:36 AM



You had the answere in your question. Lieing is a sin. Not lieing to God, but just straight across lieing. You can't lie to God anyways, God knows all and the 9th commandment is thou shalt not bear false witness........ thou shalt not lie.

So right there Abraham used his free will to disobey God by lieing


Cowboy.....what was the lie that Abraham supposedly told?





In the book of Genesis 12:11-20
Abraham has asked Sarai to lie and say that she was his sister.


Cowboy.....Sarai was Abraham's sister


Genesis 20:12....And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.


you and 2sparrow was wrong about Abraham lying ...of course 2sparrow realize this and decided to get off the merry-go-round

as I said...you guys need to read the bible instead of quoting from it

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Thu 06/24/10 04:39 AM
Edited by 2sparrows on Thu 06/24/10 04:45 AM
Parting words waving
Careful Cowboy; you are stepping into a trap; I can see it coming and know excatly what it is. If you know scripture; if you know funches; you should see it coming.


I would stay and help, but I am feeling a little dizzy. :wink:

edit:

sorry I was to slow, but still right-on laugh

The lie was Abraham decieved the king into thinking Sarah was not married.But funches will not see that, instead he will play word games with it.
Get out while you still can!

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Thu 06/24/10 04:40 AM




You had the answere in your question. Lieing is a sin. Not lieing to God, but just straight across lieing. You can't lie to God anyways, God knows all and the 9th commandment is thou shalt not bear false witness........ thou shalt not lie.

So right there Abraham used his free will to disobey God by lieing


Cowboy.....what was the lie that Abraham supposedly told?





In the book of Genesis 12:11-20
Abraham has asked Sarai to lie and say that she was his sister.


Cowboy.....Sarai was Abraham's sister


Genesis 20:12....And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.


you and 2sparrow was wrong about Abraham lying ...of course 2sparrow realize this and decided to get off the merry-go-round

as I said...you guys need to read the bible instead of quoting from it


She was his half sister, this is different then being his sister.

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Thu 06/24/10 04:41 AM

Parting words waving
Careful Cowboy; you are stepping into a trap; I can see it coming and know excatly what it is. If you know scripture; if you know funches; you should see it coming.


I would stay and help, but I am feeling a little dizzy. :wink:


lol no problem, i enjoy funches' ignorance and his ego he has. Makes a good comedy in the morning.

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Thu 06/24/10 04:42 AM





You had the answere in your question. Lieing is a sin. Not lieing to God, but just straight across lieing. You can't lie to God anyways, God knows all and the 9th commandment is thou shalt not bear false witness........ thou shalt not lie.

So right there Abraham used his free will to disobey God by lieing


Cowboy.....what was the lie that Abraham supposedly told?





In the book of Genesis 12:11-20
Abraham has asked Sarai to lie and say that she was his sister.


Cowboy.....Sarai was Abraham's sister


Genesis 20:12....And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.


you and 2sparrow was wrong about Abraham lying ...of course 2sparrow realize this and decided to get off the merry-go-round

as I said...you guys need to read the bible instead of quoting from it


She was his half sister, this is different then being his sister.


And is also why they could still marry.

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Thu 06/24/10 04:46 AM

Parting words waving
Careful Cowboy; you are stepping into a trap; I can see it coming and know excatly what it is. If you know scripture; if you know funches; you should see it coming.


I would stay and help, but I am feeling a little dizzy. :wink:


2sparrow...stepping into a trap????....now you're being paranoid ...you were shown how your statement was false that Abraham didn't lie because sarah was actually his sister...so please no sour grapes...just consider yourself enlighten

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Thu 06/24/10 04:50 AM


Parting words waving
Careful Cowboy; you are stepping into a trap; I can see it coming and know excatly what it is. If you know scripture; if you know funches; you should see it coming.


I would stay and help, but I am feeling a little dizzy. :wink:


2sparrow...stepping into a trap????....now you're being paranoid ...you were shown how your statement was false that Abraham didn't lie because sarah was actually his sister...so please no sour grapes...just consider yourself enlighten


funches sister and half sister are quite a bit different then one another.

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Thu 06/24/10 04:52 AM

She was his half sister, this is different then being his sister.


Cowboy.....wow....so you feel that it's ok to marry your half-sister? .....

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Thu 06/24/10 04:55 AM



Parting words waving
Careful Cowboy; you are stepping into a trap; I can see it coming and know excatly what it is. If you know scripture; if you know funches; you should see it coming.


I would stay and help, but I am feeling a little dizzy. :wink:


2sparrow...stepping into a trap????....now you're being paranoid ...you were shown how your statement was false that Abraham didn't lie because sarah was actually his sister...so please no sour grapes...just consider yourself enlighten


funches sister and half sister are quite a bit different then one another.


Cowboy....so you won't have sex with your full sister but you would have sex with your half-sister? ......I see a Jerry Springer episode in the making

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Thu 06/24/10 04:56 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 06/24/10 04:58 AM


She was his half sister, this is different then being his sister.


Cowboy.....wow....so you feel that it's ok to marry your half-sister? .....


No i don't personally suggest it. But technically they weren't brother and sister and t'each their own lol.

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Thu 06/24/10 05:00 AM



She was his half sister, this is different then being his sister.


Cowboy.....wow....so you feel that it's ok to marry your half-sister? .....


No i don't personally permit it. But again technically they weren't brother and sister and t'each their own lol.


Jeez Cowboy....I guess it's that time for your birds and the bees refresher course ....if you and someone else have the same father or the same mother....then they are either your brother or your sister

you are trying to promote incest

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Thu 06/24/10 05:04 AM




She was his half sister, this is different then being his sister.


Cowboy.....wow....so you feel that it's ok to marry your half-sister? .....


No i don't personally permit it. But again technically they weren't brother and sister and t'each their own lol.


Jeez Cowboy....I guess it's that time for your birds and the bees refresher course ....if you and someone else have the same father or the same mother....then they are either your brother or your sister

you are trying to promote incest



yeah i'm trying to promote it when i specifically said i didn't permit it.......... you're a very good listener funches, *pats funches on the back for trying to make me look bad and then make the belief in christ look the same by making it look like i promoted incest.

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Thu 06/24/10 05:05 AM
@CowboyGH
The lie was Abraham decieved the king into thinking Sarah was not married.But funches will not see that,he will play word games with it instead of seeing a wrong was done by Abraham, and not by the king, who payed the price.
Wow, that could be a analogy for...never mind.
Have fun with funches!

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Thu 06/24/10 05:09 AM

@CowboyGH
The lie was Abraham decieved the king into thinking Sarah was not married.But funches will not see that,he will play word games with it instead of seeing a wrong was done by Abraham, and not by the king, who payed the price.
Wow, that could be a analogy for...never mind.
Have fun with funches!


ok thanks 2sparows, i wasn't to knowledgeable of abraham.

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Thu 06/24/10 05:14 AM





She was his half sister, this is different then being his sister.


Cowboy.....wow....so you feel that it's ok to marry your half-sister? .....


No i don't personally permit it. But again technically they weren't brother and sister and t'each their own lol.


Jeez Cowboy....I guess it's that time for your birds and the bees refresher course ....if you and someone else have the same father or the same mother....then they are either your brother or your sister

you are trying to promote incest



yeah i'm trying to promote it when i specifically said i didn't permit it.......... you're a very good listener funches, *pats funches on the back for trying to make me look bad and then make the belief in christ look the same by making it look like i promoted incest.


you said that technically they weren't brother and sisters....which mean you don't believe that those that have the same father but not the same mother or vice versa are not siblings and therefore it's ok for them to marry ....so yes you are promoting incest


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Thu 06/24/10 05:20 AM






She was his half sister, this is different then being his sister.


Cowboy.....wow....so you feel that it's ok to marry your half-sister? .....


No i don't personally permit it. But again technically they weren't brother and sister and t'each their own lol.


Jeez Cowboy....I guess it's that time for your birds and the bees refresher course ....if you and someone else have the same father or the same mother....then they are either your brother or your sister

you are trying to promote incest



yeah i'm trying to promote it when i specifically said i didn't permit it.......... you're a very good listener funches, *pats funches on the back for trying to make me look bad and then make the belief in christ look the same by making it look like i promoted incest.


you said that technically they weren't brother and sisters....which mean you don't believe that those that have the same father but not the same mother or vice versa are not siblings and therefore it's ok for them to marry ....so yes you are promoting incest




Well since you took this discussion and threw it way out in left field, i am done with you funches. Hope you have a nice day :) May God guide you and keep you safe through your day(s)