Topic: Is Christianity Immoral?
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Sat 01/23/10 01:07 PM
I think it is immoral to wrongly teach someone that they can prove the validity of a book by using the book itself.


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I have no idea what you think I wrote.

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You have no idea is exactly right!One day you will get it.


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Sat 01/23/10 01:57 PM

Epicurus

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”


heh heh I have that on a t-shirt!

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Sat 01/23/10 01:59 PM
HE is willing and able but he leaves our actions and our choices to us.

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Sat 01/23/10 02:02 PM


Epicurus

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”


heh heh I have that on a t-shirt!


God is able to prevent evil, but allows it to stay on earth so that we have something to face in our lives to strengthen us. It is a test between God and the Devil since the devil claims to be more powerful then God.

He is able and willing, he can and will destroy evil at the end of times.

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Sat 01/23/10 02:40 PM



Epicurus

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”


heh heh I have that on a t-shirt!


God is able to prevent evil, but allows it to stay on earth so that we have something to face in our lives to strengthen us. It is a test between God and the Devil since the devil claims to be more powerful then God.

He is able and willing, he can and will destroy evil at the end of times.


Oh, enough to deserve THIS "evil"???



Have we had enough?


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Sat 01/23/10 04:49 PM




Epicurus

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”


heh heh I have that on a t-shirt!


God is able to prevent evil, but allows it to stay on earth so that we have something to face in our lives to strengthen us. It is a test between God and the Devil since the devil claims to be more powerful then God.

He is able and willing, he can and will destroy evil at the end of times.


Oh, enough to deserve THIS "evil"???



Have we had enough?




Did JR get wise with dad again?

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Thu 01/28/10 07:44 PM
According to the Bible, God commands heathens to be murdered, yet commands us to not murder. God commands us to not be jealous, yet it is often stated that God is. Vengeance is also 'his'...



I think hypocrisy is the purest form of immorality.



In addition to that, the entire story of good and evil causes an us vs. them mentality...

Also immoral.


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Thu 01/28/10 08:25 PM
You all should read "The Controversy Of Zion". This will help clear up your confusion. glasses

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Thu 01/28/10 10:00 PM

According to the Bible, God commands heathens to be murdered, yet commands us to not murder. God commands us to not be jealous, yet it is often stated that God is. Vengeance is also 'his'...



I think hypocrisy is the purest form of immorality.



In addition to that, the entire story of good and evil causes an us vs. them mentality...

Also immoral.



more of a right vs wrong mentality,,,which is what separates humans from animals....

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Thu 01/28/10 10:29 PM
Immorality of the religion is obvious.

I have to laugh at the arguments on this thread about how god allows evil and free will but is capable of fixing all ills on this planet. LOL, the defenders of this sound like children defending their all powerful parents. Well my dad can fly......well my dad has xray eyes....well my dad is bigger.....well my dad can take your dad...lol

Hilarious....

And immoral for the division, superiority and hypocrisy that religion causes without mentioning the warring nature it brings with it.


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Thu 01/28/10 10:34 PM
I am anti violence,,,pro unity, not superior or inferior, and have great respect for consistency(not hypocrisy)

These are some of the many examples Jesus life gave me and I have faith in God. This type of faith,,does not have anything to do with the next persons hypocrisy. It is frustrating for all faith to be linked to the worst of its believers instead of the best of them,,,,seems almost a type of bigotry in and of itself.

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Thu 01/28/10 10:49 PM
The hypocrisy is the most obvious. Out of one side of their neck they speak of equality and out of the other they relate same sex love to criminal activity.

So two or three faced it isn't funny and that is only one example.

Sounds immoral to me.

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Thu 01/28/10 10:57 PM
criminal 1 : one who has committed a crime

crime: 1 : an act or the commission of an act that is forbidden or the omission of a duty that is commanded by a public law and that makes the offender liable to punishment by that law; especially : a gross violation of law



By the laws set in the bible,, not one of us is NOT a criminal. I dont mean to offend anyone, I am strictly adhering to the definition of the word.

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Thu 01/28/10 10:59 PM
Bible being used as an excuse to perpetrate the hypocrisy, division and superiority doesn't make it right.

Sounds immoral to me.

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Thu 01/28/10 11:00 PM

Bible being used as an excuse to perpetrate the hypocrisy, division and superiority doesn't make it right.

Sounds immoral to me.



We agree, misuse of anything is a shame.

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Fri 01/29/10 02:13 AM
to answer the question of this thread, just ask all the altar boys that get diddled by "men of the cloth"

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Fri 01/29/10 04:07 AM
no

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Fri 01/29/10 06:39 AM

to answer the question of this thread, just ask all the altar boys that get diddled by "men of the cloth"



People are immoral,,religious or not. To take the correlation between being Christian and being immoral and make Christianity the cause, is like taking the immorality of some Americans and the fact they are American and making America the cause of their immorality.

People in all walks of life commit wrongdoing, with or without religion. It is the cause of being human,, not being Christian or anything else.

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Fri 01/29/10 07:59 AM

I am anti violence,,,pro unity, not superior or inferior, and have great respect for consistency(not hypocrisy)

These are some of the many examples Jesus life gave me and I have faith in God. This type of faith,,does not have anything to do with the next persons hypocrisy. It is frustrating for all faith to be linked to the worst of its believers instead of the best of them,,,,seems almost a type of bigotry in and of itself.



MsHarmony...to promote to others your faith in a God, that is clearly all the bad things that you just claim that you are not, is perhaps the hypocrisy

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Fri 01/29/10 08:02 AM


I am anti violence,,,pro unity, not superior or inferior, and have great respect for consistency(not hypocrisy)

These are some of the many examples Jesus life gave me and I have faith in God. This type of faith,,does not have anything to do with the next persons hypocrisy. It is frustrating for all faith to be linked to the worst of its believers instead of the best of them,,,,seems almost a type of bigotry in and of itself.



MsHarmony...to promote to others your faith in a God, that is clearly all the bad things that you just claim that you are not, is perhaps the hypocrisy



The creator has to be greater than the creation, this is not hypocrisy, more like logic and reason. My example on this earth was Jesus, who was also pro unity, not self proclaimed as superior or inferior, extremely consistent and non violent.