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I had no problem with incremental changes. They could have done some things to move towards a better system without coming up with a 2000 page bill that creates a total mess and raises taxes and premiums. I don't know about you, but I think that we are in a serious financial crisis, that isn't going away anytime soon. It doesn't matter to me who is in power, because both parties have no regard for the debt or how the hell we are going to stop the massive deficit spending. 2010 is going to bring the largest budget deficit in history. Right now the government will only bring in enough money to cover the mandatory spending. The financial implications of this bill and all the other bills they have passed and want to pass is going to continue the insolvent operating conditions. I have a serious problem with that. If we were sitting on a balanced budget or they had the will to make the cuts necessary to fund this without raising taxes or expanding the debt, I would be on your side. Unfortunately, that is not the case. The financial solvency of this country should top all of our priorities. The 1 Trillion dollar tax cuts to the wealthy that Bush made will expire this year. I don't think they will be continued. Trickle down economics has been proven not to work. This health-care bill will save money. At least in the long run it will, not add to the deficit. Obama has only been President for 1 yr. The past budget year ran from Oct. 2008 thru Oct. 2009. Any additions to the deficit this past year are not the current Administration's to bear alone. Obama says he will reduce the deficit. As he has tried to keep all his campaign promises so far, I also believe he will reduce the budget. The last time we had a balanced budget the Dems were in charge. Clinton actually had a budget surplus. The Dems have shown they know how to do it. The next 8 years saw the deficit more than double, from 5 Trillion to more than 10 Trillion. The way I figure it, Obama has 7 more years. Give him time! The way things were being done sure didn't work! |
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The Republicans didn't support Health-Care Reform because the Anti-American, Republican Party doesn't support Americans Health and Well Being.
They only support their controllers. Big Business and Insurance Companies. |
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The Republicans didn't support Health-Care Reform because the Anti-American, Republican Party doesn't support Americans Health and Well Being. They only support their controllers. Big Business and Insurance Companies. FALSE |
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The Republicans didn't support Health-Care Reform because the Anti-American, Republican Party doesn't support Americans Health and Well Being. They only support their controllers. Big Business and Insurance Companies. FALSE TRUE! |
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I had no problem with incremental changes. They could have done some things to move towards a better system without coming up with a 2000 page bill that creates a total mess and raises taxes and premiums. I don't know about you, but I think that we are in a serious financial crisis, that isn't going away anytime soon. It doesn't matter to me who is in power, because both parties have no regard for the debt or how the hell we are going to stop the massive deficit spending. 2010 is going to bring the largest budget deficit in history. Right now the government will only bring in enough money to cover the mandatory spending. The financial implications of this bill and all the other bills they have passed and want to pass is going to continue the insolvent operating conditions. I have a serious problem with that. If we were sitting on a balanced budget or they had the will to make the cuts necessary to fund this without raising taxes or expanding the debt, I would be on your side. Unfortunately, that is not the case. The financial solvency of this country should top all of our priorities. The 1 Trillion dollar tax cuts to the wealthy that Bush made will expire this year. I don't think they will be continued. Trickle down economics has been proven not to work. This health-care bill will save money. At least in the long run it will, not add to the deficit. Obama has only been President for 1 yr. The past budget year ran from Oct. 2008 thru Oct. 2009. Any additions to the deficit this past year are not the current Administration's to bear alone. Obama says he will reduce the deficit. As he has tried to keep all his campaign promises so far, I also believe he will reduce the budget. The last time we had a balanced budget the Dems were in charge. Clinton actually had a budget surplus. The Dems have shown they know how to do it. The next 8 years saw the deficit more than double, from 5 Trillion to more than 10 Trillion. The way I figure it, Obama has 7 more years. Give him time! The way things were being done sure didn't work! 
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The White House budget director has blatantly lied about his deficit projections. The numbers he provided during the stimulus debate were absurd. Shortly after the bill was passed he had to rescind them and then he said they had no idea how bad things really were.. Which of course, is total nonsense. You CANNOT project growth rates 4 or 5 years from now and expect people to believe them.
I wonder if Orszag uses the global warming computer models for his projections? |
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The Republicans didn't support Health-Care Reform because the Anti-American, Republican Party doesn't support Americans Health and Well Being. They only support their controllers. Big Business and Insurance Companies. Correlation/causation fallacy. Not supporting the fascist Obamacare is not equal to not supporting Americans Health and Well Being. There is no constitutional role for the government in health care or any industry. Both parties fabricate these things so as to get elected and redistribute wealth to the special interests who bribe them. |
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Open your eyes.
You're being duped! |
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Open your eyes. You're being duped! That chart speaks volumes and speaks to who is being duped. |
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I don't think you even understand that graph.
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I don't think you even understand that graph. I'll spell in out for yer, almost 3 more trillion added to the total national debt.... for 2010, 2011, and 2012.....All Obama's doing. And that's using White House figures which are more often than not always worse than stated. |
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I don't think you even understand that graph. I'll spell in out for yer, almost 3 more trillion added to the total national debt.... for 2010, 2011, and 2012.....All Obama's doing. And that's using White House figures which are more often than not always worse than stated. Show me your source again and I'll look! |
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The 1 Trillion dollar tax cuts to the wealthy that Bush made will expire this year.
I don't think they will be continued. Trickle down economics has been proven not to work. This health-care bill will save money. At least in the long run it will, not add to the deficit. Obama has only been President for 1 yr. The past budget year ran from Oct. 2008 thru Oct. 2009. Any additions to the deficit this past year are not the current Administration's to bear alone. Obama says he will reduce the deficit. As he has tried to keep all his campaign promises so far, I also believe he will reduce the budget. The last time we had a balanced budget the Dems were in charge. Clinton actually had a budget surplus. The Dems have shown they know how to do it. The next 8 years saw the deficit more than double, from 5 Trillion to more than 10 Trillion. The way I figure it, Obama has 7 more years. Give him time! The way things were being done sure didn't work! |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Fri 01/01/10 03:30 PM
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The Short-Term Budget Outlook:“Over the coming years, as the economy improves and spending related to the financial rescue and the economic stimulus package abates, the deficit is projected to gradually shrink.”—CBO, Summer Update August 2009
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10748/11-24-09AABPA-Presenation.pdf Straight from the CBO site! |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Fri 01/01/10 04:14 PM
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I don't think you even understand that graph. I'll spell in out for yer, almost 3 more trillion added to the total national debt.... for 2010, 2011, and 2012.....All Obama's doing. And that's using White House figures which are more often than not always worse than stated. What your graph shows is a drastic dip in the budget deficit vs GDP per year. What is shows is a drastic increase in the budget deficit, (2009. The results from 8 years of Republican leadership, an economic crisis that was denied for at least 2 years, and 2 stimulus packages. (both necessary) Before 2009, it shows the budget deficits the Bush Admin ran. This resulting from 8 years of tax-cuts to the wealthy, 2 wars (one illegal), and 8 years of Republican trickle down economics. From 2009 on it shows a steady reduction to the Budget deficit. Before 2001, it shows the budget surpluses from the Clinton Admin. It doesn't show the total Fed deficit at all. |
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The Republican Party. Not For America. Not For Americans. So a party that doesn't want big brother watching over everything isn't American? I disagree and think the founding fathers would disagree as well. They would not agree with a "we know whats best for you" approach. |
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I don't think you even understand that graph. I'll spell in out for yer, almost 3 more trillion added to the total national debt.... for 2010, 2011, and 2012.....All Obama's doing. And that's using White House figures which are more often than not always worse than stated. What your graph shows is a drastic dip in the budget deficit vs GDP per year. What is shows is a drastic increase in the budget deficit, (2009. The results from 8 years of Republican leadership, an economic crisis that was denied for at least 2 years, and 2 stimulus packages. (both necessary) Before 2009, it shows the budget deficits the Bush Admin ran. This resulting from 8 years of tax-cuts to the wealthy, 2 wars (one illegal), and 8 years of Republican trickle down economics. From 2009 on it shows a steady reduction to the Budget deficit. Before 2001, it shows the budget surpluses from the Clinton Admin. It doesn't show the total Fed deficit at all. OMG that borders on dumb arse....can't you add 2010, 2011, and 2012 from the chart....and get almost 3 trillion dollars increase in the debt. Now dems can fool themselves if they wish....bringing the yearly defict down from 1.2 trillion to just under a trillion is not real progress. No two ways about it - even giving all of 2009 to Bush, the debt will increase by three trillion dollars during Obama's first term.   |
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Hey Republican.
The Dems are only garunteed in office until 2012. At that point on your graph the yearly budget deficit is ESTIMATED at about 650 billion. Probably the reason the CBO estimates it to rise after that is the possibility, however slim, that anothe Republican will be in charge next! LMAO |
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You need to quit concentrating on that pretty graph.
The big picture is far more complicated than those red and pink bars.  |
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The 1 Trillion dollar tax cuts to the wealthy that Bush made will expire this year. I don't think they will be continued. Trickle down economics has been proven not to work. This health-care bill will save money. At least in the long run it will, not add to the deficit. Obama has only been President for 1 yr. The past budget year ran from Oct. 2008 thru Oct. 2009. Any additions to the deficit this past year are not the current Administration's to bear alone. Obama says he will reduce the deficit. As he has tried to keep all his campaign promises so far, I also believe he will reduce the budget. The last time we had a balanced budget the Dems were in charge. Clinton actually had a budget surplus. The Dems have shown they know how to do it. The next 8 years saw the deficit more than double, from 5 Trillion to more than 10 Trillion. The way I figure it, Obama has 7 more years. Give him time! The way things were being done sure didn't work! Let's get back to reality! |
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