isn't this dividing?

That and a few others votes were blatently bought.. I happen to agree that our politicians are corrupt and they stink as bad as the rotting fish in Denmark.

Just like paying your taxes, you don't have to pay them. Noone said there isn't consequences for not paying but you can still live if you don't pay them.

Paying for the healthcare is only mandatory for those who make over a certain income and haven't bought their own healthcare.

I don't necessarily agree with it but it is not against the constitution for them to tax and this is no different than taxes.

No!

It would be dividing if we passed a bill that would not include the citizens of all 50 states.

It's kinda like when Texas wanted to be annexed into the US.

All the other States had to pitch in and fight their battle with Mexico.
Otherwise Texas would undoubtably be part of Mexico today!

You are slightly off base on the first part.

EVERYONE is going to be required to BUY health care. Everyone will be required to have coverage. If they don't have coverage, the government will " penalize " them.

You're right in that it's not much different than paying taxes, though.

You keep ignoring the fact that the Nebraska provisions last much, MUCH longer than they will for the other 49 states.

So, while other states that can ill afford to will have to start ponying up within 3 or 4 years, Nebraska will still be getting the free ride.

How long do you think the other 49 stets will be " untied " for that???

Once again,
One of the largest savings in Health-Care will come from eliminating the tax-payers payments for med-care received and unpaid by the uninsured at ERs all across the country.
That, and the extra expense for treating illnesses neglected because uninsured people are waiting until the illness has progressed to its last stages.

It is far cheaper to treat the symptoms early enough to prevent the costly, and often deadly, med procedures required later.

Not to mention the ERs high fees just to be seen.

The bill isn't perfect. It can and will be improved with time.

The important thing now is getting it passed.

Why??

Why push through a bill that isn't as good as it possibly CAN be???

It may not ever be " perfect " for everyone it's going to involve. That's a given.

But why push and push to get " something/anything " passed??

Because the Republicans won't pass real and effective Health-Care reform period.

They, Republicans, stripped this one down to what it is, and still all 40 voted against it.
If just 5 would have voted their conscience they could have told Leiberman and Nelson to suck egg.
If just 5 Republicans would have supported Health-Care reform, the Nebraska deal wouldn't have been necessary, and we would still have a bill with a public option.

The Repubs whine, but they whine anyway, and are at fault for any deal making done to get the necessary votes to pass the bill.

I thought I read in the NY Times that 39 Democrats in the House voted against it...correct?

Ya know, Fanta...the thinking that " something is at least better than nothing " is so logically flawed that it's almost impossible to figure out how you could possibly think along those lines.

A bill that doesn't work is not going to be " better than nothing ".

A bill that doesn't work will destroy this country completely.

I would be MUCH happier if they made absolutely sure that the bill WOULD work for the American people.

Yeah. But, of course, they weren't voting " with the conscience ". They were just wannabe Republicans.

Ridiculous!
Doing nothing would have destroyed this country.

Whether you want to believe it or not the Republicans never meant to fix a Health-Care system in the US that was classicist, leaving too many without adequate care, and profiting no one but the Insurance Companies.

Of course they did find a way to profit from the lobbyists by delaying and obstructing legislation for the past year.

You are, as usual, mistaking my intentions in my posts.

The fact is that a bill that doesn't work WILL destroy whats left of this country. Doing nothing would have, but doing the wrong thing will as well. Just as surely as doing nothing.

it is NOT " ridiculous " to be able to see that. It just takes some logical thinking rather than thinking directly with your heart.

I don't CARE what the Republicans intended to do or not do. The fact is that there is a seriously flawed bill being pushed down our throats when the PROPER course of action would be to make sure the bill is the best it can possibly be.

Surely you jest if you think a bill of this magnitude could include all of what everyone wants. It's going to be revised tremedously over time. It has to. No one knows what parts are actually going to work and what parts will have to be sloughed off. It's like a guy looking for work, just happy to get his foot in the door. Repubs lollygagging and dancing around is costing us valuable time.
Dems won, give them their day in the sun.

That is exactly why I say " as good as it possibly CAN be ".

Passing " something/anything " just for the sake of getting something passed is, at best, silly and short sighted.

The parts that won't work and will have to be " sloughed off " are the parts that are going to do MUCH more damage to this country than should be considered acceptable.

Smart woman!

Yes!
The Dems aren't nearly as organized and corrupt.

Unlike the Repub Party, Independent thought actually exists.

Hey Fanta,
Can I ask you an off-topic question. My estupido boyfriend entered the wrong bank account number on his TaxAct filing last year. So, somebody else got his Refund by mistake. The IRS and the 2 banks the money went through are refusing to do anything about it. They all say the problem has been resolved. End of Conversation! Who do we sue, or do you think he is s..t out of luck?