Nobody is saying that kids don't know right from wrong but a child that happens to be 8 or 9 is exactly what it is...a child. They do not know or understand fully whats the consequences of their actions will be. They know that they will get in trouble but trouble in a child's mind (9yrs) is standing in the corner. So, when your child knows that killing is bad and wrong does she honestly ynderstand everything else that comes with it? I doubt it...

What do you consider to be a "nice" crime and what would qualify as a "bad" one?
I also dont see a reason for ppl getting hurt but you cant just throw the key at someone over peer presure or a child like reaction to something...can you?

a nice crime is one that never takes place
a bad one is one that does take place

yes, throw away the key for those that commit and are convicted, found guilty of heinous crimes

scroll up and see for yourself, she did in fact ask her 9 yr old daughter if she knew the differences and if she understood the consequences, and lo and behold the child did...

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thanks - may ask why you feel that way?

LOL...As if I could ever believe that one. No child realizes everything that could happen. No more x-mas, no more birthday parties, can't see your friends anymore, cant watch t.v or color...etc. Kids DO NOT UNDERSTAND period....
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Your post never said ....why? It just mentioned which one do you think and he answered so leave the guy be ;)

do adults have those same concerns? no

also you're wrong, there will always be more xmases, birthdays, etc., the location just changes

Kids do UNDERSTAND, you just want to believe they don't

If a kid commits a crime of aggravated burglary the punishment needs to be sufficient for his/her crime, if they murder someone they need to face that punishment as well. Most kids with the exception of those with mental defects by the time they are 6 know that stealing is wrong, if they choose to do it anyway then they need to pay the piper. And most certainly a 11 year old knows what death is.

... almost sounds like a copout, but .....it depends on the circumstances and the kid. However I can say that I don't believe in 'no tolerance'.

Again..."bc I can't do this all day" (quoted from Sham WOW!)
Children can not understand FULLY what their immediate actions will do in the long term. Ask a 9yr old what are their plans for the future and I bet they will say I want to be a teacher,doctor,lawyer,obama..etc. They will not mention a home,family,a good income and a great 401k...
get the point now...thanks

No I dont think children should be tried as adults. I am for rehabilitation.

I think in some cases "no tolerance" goes too far, like the recent cases of the boy scouts who got in trouble for having their scout issued equipment. One had a combo fork, spoon knife and the other who is an eagle scout had his ready to go bag in the trunk of his car. In situations like these I think some common sense should be used.

ask an adult the same question - they'd can say, have plans of getting laid, winning lotto, etc., does that mean they will come true, duh, no... you get the point

These are the two examples I have posted to use as a reference point, these are actual crimes committed by children.

These two are pretty recent crimes committed by children in Florida and I have followed the cases as they truly shocked the heck outta me.

#1 - approx 10 kids under 18 enter a house, with weapons, repeated sexually abuse the mother, beat both mother and son, had mother perform sexual acts on her son, doused both with chemicals to remove their DNA.

#2 - a group of about 5 kids, set another kid on fire. Doused kid with flammable liquid, set kid on fire and watched him run while on fire.

What do you think?

Should kids be charged as adults and face adult punishment?

1 - Yes, let the punishment fit the crime.
2 - No, children who commit serious crimes need rehabiliation.
3 - Yes. If they know right from wrong, then they should accept the consequences.
4 - No, instead hold the parents responsible.

Four boys ages 9, 10, 13 and 14 lured an 8-year-old neighbor into a shed at a Phoenix apartment complex, then sexually assaulted her, police say.

The crime happened last Thursday evening, and police were called to the scene after reports of a young girl running out of the shed, half-nude and screaming. Numerous witnesses helped police identify the boy suspects.

All the children involved are refugees from the West African nation of Liberia who live in the complex near Thomas Road and 43rd Avenue. The 14-year-old, Steven Tuopeh (pictured above in police mug shot) is being charged as an adult.

They all should be tried! And I don't give a damn that they are from Africa either.

I don't know what to say. I guess it depends on the crime. If its a felony, then I say that they should be trialed as an adult. If our country have force labor camps, that'll solve the problem. Our prisons are overcrowded enough, plus if those prisoners are placed in force labor camps to do something constructive, I believe that they should work until they're dead. There's always a replacement for them because they should be nothing more but a number. LMAO!

rut roh!

What in the world is wrong with people (yes children included) nowadays?????

regardless where these kids were from I too agree they should all be tried and treated as adults, the punishment should fit the crime