If you guys are so bent on keeping your hell you're more than welcome to
it.

Why you people want to make out God to be such an ugly evil demon is
beyond me.

Whatever.

To each their own I guess.

that was posted to everyone who keep saying that jesus did not write the
bible and to those that do not believe in hell what i was saying in the
last post was i was not offended either

Thank you Wm.
Abra, you have your truths. We have ours. You tell your side, We tell
ours. It is all in a days grace for me. There are reasons you feel,
think the way you do. There are as many reasons why I feel the way I do.

Kat

By the way: I think I was talking about who wrote the Bible, and the
many truths. Not hell.
Kat

BUT JESUS TALKS ABOUT IT IN THE BIBLE KAT

I know...but that wasn't where my points were taking us. There is so
much proof, scientific and otherwise.
Kat

Many thanks, Kat for the background on the Bible.

I have to admit it doesn't make any sense to me. But I'll keep reading.

Oceans

Now I find that hard to believe. It was written in plain english easy
enough for anyone to read. Me thinks you just want to disagree. That is
most certainly your perogative. You can look up the facts.
Good day to you sir. Enjoy the reading.
Kat

Oh wait....were you talking about the Bible?? If so, sorry.
Kat

MAYBE HE HAD TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING WHY JESUS WOULD LAY HIS LIFE DOWN FOR
US.

Why do christians want people to burn in hell forever. Torture. That is
what the DARK AGES WERE TOTURE BY CHRISTIANS OF THOSE WHO WOULD NOT
CONFORM. Why are you so bent on trying to save people by telling them
that if they do not believe like you they will suffer eternal misery by
a loving g-d. Wonderman you talk love but u don't even know what you
say. same with you spider i will challenge either one of you to disprove
me. not just say well this is what it means. that is the logic YAHSHUA
came to DESTROY!!!!!! YHWH is a LOVING ELOHIM and people will suffer
ETERNAL death. loooookkkkk death cease to exist. hell IS THE dOCTRINE of
devils period. yAHSHUA DID NOT TALK MORE ABOUT HELL THAN HEAVEN.TELL ME
WHEN AND HOW LONG OF A PERIOD IS YAHSHUA'S WORDS RECORDED.IE...
YEARS,MONTHS, WEEKS, DAYS, HOURS HOW LONG TELL ME PLEASE SHOW YOUR
KNOWLEDGE OF THE SCRIPTURES. PLEASEEEE........ MILES


Matt 10:27-29

"Whatever I tell you in the dark, speak in the light; and what you hear
in the ear, preach on the housetops. 28 And do not fear those who kill
the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to
DESTROY both soul and body in hell.
NKJV
The word DESTROY means just that

NT:622

NT:622 apollumi and apolluoo

to destroy

1. to destroy i. e. to put out of the way entirely, abolish, put an end
to, ruin: Mark 1:24;

to kill: Matt 2:13;

contextually, to declare that one must be put to death: Matt 27:20;
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000,
2003 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

Kat you said.

From cover to cover, these writers claimed that God gave them every
word.

What do you think would happen to a man in our time who claimed that God
gave them the words they speak?

Would there words be accepted?

Would they be ridiculed, beaten, called lier and false prophet?

Yes AB, I am afraid He would. He would be sorely scorned and ridiculed
and probably put away or killed. People do not want to hear of it.
People are afraid of Him.

But, I do not have to carry that fear. Jesus will not be walking the
earth. He will make a magnificent presentation to us all.

AB, roughly 2/3 of the Bible is prophecy. So much happened as it was
written and still is happening.

But, yes AB. It would be a dangerous walk indeed.
Kat

Thing is that God has never left mankind with out a prophet. Not of the
Stature of Moses or Christ but there has been in each generation at
least one in wicked generations there has been more than one.

Yes AB I believe we have prophets to this day. Teachers. Some religions
believe they know who they are. I wish I knew one. I would take a train
to see him, her.
Kat

would you? Miles

Nice post Wonderman.

MAYBE HE HAD TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING WHY JESUS WOULD LAY HIS LIFE DOWN FOR
US.
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Why would Jesus do this?

Because God said do this! And when God says BE. IT is So.

What man can deny the will of God?

" Thank you Wm.
Abra, you have your truths. We have ours. You tell your side, We tell
ours. It is all in a days grace for me. There are reasons you feel,
think the way you do. There are as many reasons why I feel the way I
do."

But the difference between us is that *I* didn't call you a bigot or an
ignoramus.

As an engineer, I've studied physical science and applied it most of my
life. I owe my very survival to a medical application of the same
technological field that allows carbon 14 and other forms of radiodating
to be done. The results are scientically repeatable and cast reasonable
and defensible doubts on the young earth theory some Christians hold as
truth.

To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson, what you believe does not break my legs.
Nor what I believe, yours.

-Kerry O.

To those that speak of hell and believe yourselves to be saved.

You have made lies of the word and hidden within a false refuge claiming
that you are safe by lieing the lie.

For to receive that which you have usurped as given, one must sow the
seed, it comes not to you by a word but by a works. See you not the
truth, that to receive the friuts of the promised field one must first
sow the seeds of that fruit, water that field and protect it from the
raven that would eat the seed. If you do none of these things how than
do you expect to receive the fruits of the field. God alone can plant a
field by uttering a word. Man must work the field to receive the fruits
thereof.

I'll translate AdventureBegins's last post: "Ya'll come out and fight ya
bunch of yeller bellied cowards!"

AdventureBegins, I'm sorry, but nobody wants to fight with you tonight.

buh bye