honey if you smoke drink and do drugs while your pregnant and your baby
is born with all kinds of defects and lives a life of pain and suffering
thats the child paying for the sins of the father or mother in this case
old testament or not it's a reality a little more vivid reality than
mine is but i just want you to understand god doesn't take what you do
adn only apply it to you your actions have consequences and most times
your children pay that is the child paying for the sins of the father
and it's not just old testemant it's something gods allowed to carry
over.

ICEPRINCESS I AM SORRY, BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT LIES IN YOUR BABY
FUTURE DO YOU

Did you do all of that?

Yes that would be sad and bad for the child. However, that's what
confession and repentance is for. You have to believe God will forgive.

If God forgave King David for committing adultery, lust and murder of
Bathesheba's husband to hide his sin..God will forgive you.

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Splat!!!!!! I think I just swooned...


Am feeling the looooove....quick 911...quick....before we start
splitting hairs again...

PRINCESS IF YOU TRUELY ARE A CHRISTIAN THEN PRAY FOR HEALING FOR YOUR
BABY

cough~ corny

Jess come on man..you can be funnier than that.

OMG honey it was a fictional description my child is healthy as can be
I've never drank or done drugs i'm too chicken my child is a child of
rape by a man who was supposed to be my husband and love me more than
life itsself then he tried to self abotr her but you are right i don't
know whats in her future but i know what her and my son must overcome
because of the monster i chose to marry and have be their father

LOL OMG now i'm a druggy mom that one is good i can't wait for my sister
to read this.LMAO

Iceprincess I thankyou for your courage.

In this world and life there are terrible things. Whatever guilt you
feel being accountable as a parent, please know God loves you and
forgives everything. I will pray for you.

Ice until she's even come close tou walking in your shoes or mine for
that matter she will NEVER know what hell is like

pray away honey I'm sure god listens but i also know that god truly does
forgive but he still makes you pay for your sins you don't get off scott
free darling

Sooooo God will forgive you.

What will he do for the child by your saving? Heal the congentital
heart defect because you found Jesus? Perhaps that child has brain
damage from the mother/fathers missuse, this will be healed because they
found Jesus?

Eeeek you understand it not and nothing I say can sunder the veils of
misunderstand that shroud this.

Step into the light of the sun of reality. It shines there above the
horizion of darkness that surrounds those that seek salvation before
seeking to help the ones they have wronged.

Ice.....you know what you know...


and can see further than your nose also...


The concept of hell is just too much like real work for some...


I would bet money that when seeing calls for aid on the tvs...most of
these posters start praying....whispering words of comfort to
themselves...then pat them selves on the back absolved of all guilty
feelings...

I don't have to walk your shoes. Do you know what life I lived when you
typed that question? Wow ..people are so funny.

There is a man who experienced hell alive and dead. Agony of hell in his
death, the defeating of fate ...His name was Jesus :)

LEAN ON JESUS FOR STRENGHT ICEPRINCESS

Ice princess that was a wonderful parable thank you.

iceprincess do you not believe in Jesus? Do you know what his purpose
is?

LOL and you say you're a baptist?

Do you emphasize water baptism or Christ's sacrifice. The answer is
already there and you say you believe.

It's been fun, talk to everyone soon.

Apparently....if one takes the words of men to be true...


and nope I don't see these babies magically freed from
oppression..starvation...rape and torture...i don't see these women
being saved...from their living hell.

Saved...your variety of saved, is saved from your own guilt...and lack
of responsibility.


Hell is all around you...go to China, have a little peek in the
orphanges...

Go to Dalfur, Chad, Afganistan, iraq, go see Heel..and take your book
with you...you may need it..

your right but some forget jesus was only tempted he never gave in so
did he really live as a man he was perfect and we are not so how true
was his existence to ours

YOU YOURSELF SAID THAT HE LOVES YOU ICE LEAN ON HIM HE WILL CARRY YOU
TILL YOU GET YOUR STRENGHT UP AGAIN