VOICES

Well there is "THE VOICE" and there are those pesky 'voices' in your head. You can tell the difference the same way I can tell your voice from someone else's voice.

I know a few people who do hear 'voices' in their heads and some have said that the voices tell them to do bad things. You should evict these voices, especially if they are not your own.

If you don't know about these things you should not make fun of people, like the guy in the video. Of course he is probably just another person who wants to be a guru and get his hands into your pocket, but the things he talks about do have some truth in them whether he knows it or not.

INTUITION is THE VOICE that is your higher self and comes from your higher mind. This higher mind exists in a completely different space-time environment than this one. You will recognize this voice as being your own voice.

Other voices you might hear may come from people you have a deep connection with and could be telepathy, or you could be picking up random thoughts from others, or from other dimensional beings.

If you are a practical person you will call these things 'hallucinations' or whatever give you peace of mind.

My friend who was psychic can hear 'voices' of dead people or spirits. She spoke for my X-husband once when I asked her if she could do this. She was as surprised as I was. When she spoke, it was in her own voice, but it was his words, his attitude and his energy. I recognized him! (She never knew him at all.)

Don't make fun of things you don't understand.

I don't make fun of ESP because I believe in ESP. I make fun of light channeling through tubes of DNA because that doesn't happen and people who "market" in the manner exposed in video two because I understand what they are doing well.

A while back I was reading something written by a cellular biologist/scientist who said to have found evidence that the signals we send to our cells from our own perception of reality has been found to actually be able to reprogram the DNA in cells. I wish I could remember his name or where I read that. It was extremely interesting.

As far as "tubes" are concerned, that's just representative terminology.

And "light channeling" could mean anything. Did you know that the body is very electric and that what we see is simply reflections of light? In fact, our physical bodies are basically "light" bodies in the sense that they are made up of atoms which are basically elements of energy. Light is very important in this reality. Without it, well, there would only be ... darkness.

But I agree that that guy is going through a semi-enlightened period where he wants to be a guru. He even tries to look like Jesus. He reminds me of the many hippies I knew in the 60's.

That's just what we need in this world... another guru.

We really don't know how intuition works.

And yet scientific authorities still make jokes and call it (i.e. intuition} "baloney."

Who do you mean by "we?"

Some people don't acknowledge intuition at all. Psychics tend to call themselves "intuitive" these days because of the bad rap the word "psychic" has gotten. If you took a poll, I would bet there are more people who believe in it and have experienced some form of it than not.

And yet scientific authorities still make jokes and call it "baloney."

This has been an interesting thread, but as I read these exchanges (and even see the moderator coming in to quell heated comments)I am reminded that, unfortunately, both at Mingle and in our non-virtual lives, some of the most judgmental and mean people are the ones claiming to be the most enlightened, spiritual, saved via their religion of choice, knowledgeable, etc.

I believe that the intuition & ESP are legitimate avenues of exploration and have value, but trying to "prove" the metaphysical scientifically is unrealistic. Frankly, that would change the gist of what it is...the METAPHYSICAL. The mystery is part of the intrigue! Take that out of the mix and you've lost the point.

That doesn't mean science has to be an be opposing force, either. There are just things that can not be defined or proven and certainly, a charlatan selling "scientific proof" in the name of enlightenment is hypocrisy at it's worst (not to mention just bad science!)

When people evaluate the topic, they can't help but look at what is purported to be beliefs about higher levels of consciousness and the way people actually behave. With so many wrong statements of "fact" and hypocritical behaviors, is it any wonder that the subject of intuition gets disregarded?

Whether you are a video charlatan or jumping on other thread participants, my intuition says that's just not very enlightened behavior and damages the legitimacy of the subject.

JMO

Other voices you might hear may come from people you have a deep connection with and could be telepathy, or you could be picking up random thoughts from others, or from other dimensional beings.

. . . AND QUITE INTUITIVE, i MIGHT ADD!!!

Even Einstein admitted that scientific truth is revealed first through intuition, and only later verified by logic. Although the information we receive intuitively is always valid, we are human interpreters of this data – often, when we assemble and translate intuitive information, it becomes subject to human error. Only through repeatedly asked questions , can the Intuition flash out the correct answer!

___________Definitions Revisited______________
The first and foremost signal feature of intuition is the time and space transcendence thing. Regarding time transcendence, intuition is very notable regarding "premonitions" of things to come (in the future.)

Regarding space transcendence, people intuit what's happening at another place in the past, present and future.

Many books of anecdotes regarding intuition exist. In particulars the anecdotes may differ, sometimes radically and strangely so. But they all have one thing in common. The time-space transcendence thing.

Indeed, everyone EXPECTS intuition to transcand time and space --- and in fact no one would call anything intuition if it did not. And this expectation is the same today as it was in prehistory and all that has transpired in between.

Here, then, is the first and foremost face value factor of intuition --- time and space transcendence.
The problem here, though, is not that intuition transcends time and space but that the modern sciences held that time and space COULD NOT BE TRANSCENDED.

trusty dictionary gives the following definitions:

(1) immediate apprehension or cognition;

(2) knowledge or conviction gained by intuition;

(3) the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without rational thought and inference;

(4) quick and ready insight.

By these definitions, or a mix of them, one assumes one now knows what intuition is --- right? These four definitions actually appear to be defining an inexplicable form of magic --- the something-out-of-nothing thing.

Here it needs to be pointed out that all of the types of intuition ALWAYS deal with some kind of information and information outputs. And since this is so, intuition obviously is the result of some kind of information processing. Thus a more appropriate definition would be: ""the faculties or power of mind and cognition to transcend time, space, and matter and energy as well."

Once again, according to some of the Encyclopedia definitions,

1. Intuition as unjustified true belief not preceded by inference, in this (the commonest) sense "an intuition" means "a hunch." The existence of hunches is uncontroversial and not of philosophical interest.

2. Intuition as immediate knowledge of the truth of a proposition, where "immediate" means "not preceded by inference." This is a philosophically important sense, since philosophers have found it puzzling that one can have knowledge, and thus justified belief, without having made oneself aware through the process of inference of any knowledge of a concept.

3. Intuition as immediate knowledge of a concept. "Immediate knowledge" here means, roughly, "knowledge which does not entail ability to define the concept."

4. Intuition as a nonpropositional knowledge of an entity - knowledge that may be a necessary condition, for, but is not identical with, intuitive knowledge of the truth of propositions about the entity.

The sense of "intuition" is exemplified by:

5. Sense perceptions, considered as products of a cognitive faculty distinct from the faculty of forming judgements concerning the entity sensed;

6. Intuitions of universals, or (as in Kant) of such insensible particulars as time and space - intuitions that are necessary conditions of our intuitive knowledge of a priori truths.

7. Mystical or inexpressible intuitions that, unlike sense perceptions and intuitions of universals, do not make possible knowledge of the truth of propositions about the entities intuited.

****** Butn the list isn't limited to those listed. Besides, these definitions seem to be talking about states of consciousness rather than about intuition.
**** Dictionaries state that the term is etymologically taken from the Latin "intuitus" --- the meaning of which is given as "to look at, contemplate" as taken from the Latin "in" + "tueri" ("to look inward as in to introspect.")

The "disinterest" of philosophy in hunches, though, is interesting, since it can be shown that most philosophies themselves derive from someone's hunches.

Hunches are among the most widely-shared aspects of our species intuitive faculties and therefore would seem important. And, as well, from some hunches some of humankind's greatest monuments and successes have emerged.

However, this faculty (as it is often called) is among our chief assets regarding creativity, inventivenes and survival --- none of which our physical-5-senses by themselves can establish, much less guarantee.

##### Some seem to do so, of course, as in a "flash" of intuitive insight. But the greater bulk of them "build up" over time --- as if the relationships they are working with are being readjusted until, in some kind of contemplative sense, they are got right. This is especially the case with creative or inventive intuitions. In these cases, once the relationships are got right, the familiar flash of creative hunch or insight occurs.

Nevertheless, intuition always occurs relative to something else --- with the relationship often being felt before it is cognitively understood within the intellect.