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Topic: What is the Lineage of Christ.
AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/26/07 06:22 PM
Can anyone out there list the lineage of Christ?

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/26/07 07:13 PM
Aw c'mon some one must know this.

In order for Jesus to be who he claims - the Christ he must, by
prophesy, be of the line of David, Root of Jesse.

Show me.

DISCLAIMER: Before someone goes off halfcrocked I beleive christ is the
root of the branch of Jesse. I just want to see the lineage.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 05/26/07 07:20 PM
it's in the bible. But a bible is fairy tale. ain't it?

TLW

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/26/07 07:38 PM
Not at all. The bible is as it should be a Holy Book. I believe there
are some chapters in the New Testement that should never have been place
in the Bible as they would make great cannons and doctrines but are not
Gods word to man but mans word to churches. However neither you nor I
was at the Councils which decided that so...

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 05/26/07 07:49 PM
Fair enough my brother.
I would answer ur question, but my bible is in spanish, and I guess
translating the lineage of Christ is way too advanced for me.

TLW

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/26/07 07:51 PM
My also. I am having trouble wading through all the begats and begats.

wonderman37's photo
Sat 05/26/07 07:58 PM
he is of king david

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:01 PM
Show me by the lineage if you can. What line links him to King David.

He is supposed to be the seed of the branch of Jesse or the seed of
David according to prophesy within the Torah (Old Testement)

wonderman37's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:03 PM
adam whom you see as not the first human was his oldest ansteor then
seth I think

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:03 PM
The Genealogy of Christ
Luke 3:23-38 and Matthew 1:1-17
God who was the father of Adam, who was the father of Seth, who was the
father of Enos, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of
Mahalalel, who was the father of Jared, who was the father of Enoch, who
was the father of Methuselah, who was the father of Lamech, who was the
father of Noah, who was the father of Shem, who was the father of
Arpachshad, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Shelah,
who was the father of Eder, who was the father of Peleg, who was the
father of Reu, who was the father of Serug, who was the father of Nahor,
who was the father of Terah, who was the father of Abraham.

Abraham begot Isaac; and Isaac begot Jacob; and Jacob begot Judah and
his brethren; and Judah begot Perez and Zerah of Tamar; and Perez begot
Hezron; and Hezron begot Ram; and Ram begot Ammin'adab; and Amminadab
begot Nahshon; and Nahshon begot Salmon; and Salmon begot Boaz of Rahab;
and Boaz begot Obed of Ruth; and Obed begot Jesse; and Jesse begot
David, the king; and David, the king, begot Solomon of her that had been
the wife of Uriah; and Solomon begot Rehoboam; and Rehoboam begot
Abijah; and Abijah begot Asa; and Asa begot Jehoshaphat; and Jehoshaphat
begot Joram; and Joram begot Uzziah; and Uzziah begot Jotham; and Jotham
begot Ahaz; and Ahaz begot Hezekiah; and Hezekiah begot Manasseh; and
Manasseh begot Amon; and Amon begot Josiah; and Josiah begot Jeconiah
and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon and
after they were brought to Babylon, Jeconiah begot Shealtiel; and
Shealtiel begot Zerubbabel; and Zerubbabel begot Abiud; and Abiud begot
Eliakim; and Eliakim begot Azor; and Azor begot Sadoc; and Sadoc begot
Achim; and Achim begot Eliud; and Eliud begot Eleazar and Eleazar begot
Matthan; and Matthan begot Jacob; and Jacob begot Joseph, the husband of
Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Jesus being the son of Joseph, [the husband of Mary, who was the
daughter of] Heli, who was the son of Matthat, who was the son of Levi,
who was the son of Melchi, who was the son of Jannai, who was the son of
Joseph, who was the son of Mattathias, who was the son of Amos, who was
the son of Nahum, who was the son of Esli, who was the son of Naggai,
who was the son of Maath, who was the son of Mattathias, who was the son
of Semein, who was the son of Josech, who was the son of Joda, who was
the son of Joanan, who was the son of Rhesa, who was the son of
Zerubbabel, who was the son of Shealtie, who was the son of Neri, who
was the son of Melchi, who was the son of Addi, who was the son of
Cosam, who was the son of Elmadam, who was the son or Er, who was the
son of Joshua, who was the son of Eliezer, who was the son of Jorim, who
was the son of Matthat, who was the son of Levi, who was the son of
Simeon, who was the son of Judas, who was the son of Joseph, who was the
son of Jonam, who was the son of Eliakim, who was the son of Melea, who
was the son of Menna, who was the son of Mattatha, who was the son of
David, the king.

So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations;
and from David

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:04 PM
I have followed the begats up to King David. I would like to see the
ones between David and Jesus. I know they are there because I beleive
Jesus to be Christ. I just can't find them.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:04 PM
http://www.westarkchurchofchrist.org/library/genealogy.htm

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:05 PM
ooooooohhhhhhhhhh
i see now

RainbowTrout's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:05 PM
True enough, Wonderman. Psalms 23:1 The Lord is my shepherd... King
David was a shepherd and his grandson 14 generations later was a
shepherd. 42 generations between Adam and Jesus. When a Christian
becomes a joint heir they become the 43 generation spiritually.

wonderman37's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:07 PM
check out luke 3;15 it talks about the LINEAGE OF CHRIST

wonderman37's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:11 PM
DAVID SON NATHAN THEN MATTATHA

no photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:18 PM
Matthew 1:16
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Jacob was the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, by >>>whom<<< Jesus
was born, who is called the Messiah.
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Jewish geneologies were always done from male to male. The truely
unique thing about this geneology is the word "whom" above. That word
is is actually of the female gender, thus indicating that Jesus is the
son of Mary and Joseph is his father in name only.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:20 PM
Heck I feel stupid it's in the first chapter of Matthew also.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/26/07 08:36 PM
TLW thank you you got it posted allready. That is then the Lineage of
Jesus which fulfills the prophesy that he must be the seed of David in
order to be the Christ.

What of the claim that he is the begat son of God then?

Joseph is the seed of David. Mary was not.

If Joseph had nothing to do with the making of the baby Jesus then Jesus
would not be the Seed of David, Branch of the Root of Jesse. This
would be the case if God had begat Jesus. That would make this prophesy
false and it can not be false because it is Gods word.

If Joseph is the father then ....

Perhaps someone has mislead you. For Christ IS the Son of God by the
Word of God and He is the Seed of David by the prophesy. but I submitt
that science and religion must agree.

The Son of God has to do with the quickening of the child by the holy
spirit Not the intervention of God in making the child. else Prophesy
is wrong. Prophesy can not be wrong for it is the Word of God.
Therefore He is not the ONLY begotton Son of God. For by the spirit we
all are the sons of god (though not with the Grace and Favor of the
first amoung us).

And science can also see and understand how Mary could have been a
Virgin and still with child.

Before you all call me false prophet and lier and satan and evil and
apostate and all the other names I have been called on here read it and
think about it. The bible is right. It must be or all things are
wrong. Prophesy must be fulfilled or all things are wrong. So you
might need to rethink which are true gospels and Belong in this book and
which are but the letters of one to another to build a church.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Sat 05/26/07 10:51 PM
Question? If the breath of life from God directly to Adam giving him
live and the beginning of David's lineage, would not the immaculate
conception of Mary by God give Jesus that same lineage?????????????The
fact that his Stepfather (so to speak) also had that lineage could just
be a plus.

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