Topic: Stranger accused of slapping crying child at store
Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 09/10/09 07:49 AM
I'll be serious a minute (it's hard and I might pop but I can do it)

babies cry

just like dogs bark and fish swim

the sound grates on my nerves and irritates the crap out of me but you just have to accept it as their nature

and it's not this guy's business to control another person's child

what he did was assault of a minor and child abuse and he's lucky he didn't get sent to ICU which is what would have happened were it my child

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Thu 09/10/09 07:54 AM
(it's hard and I might pop but I can do it)

did i just hear a rather large bang???
bigsmile

Meg8771's photo
Thu 09/10/09 08:06 AM
All I can say is, "WOW!" I can't believe this...

Winx's photo
Thu 09/10/09 08:13 AM

i think some of the details are being missed.

the guy threatened to shut the baby up, and they went about their separate ways. two aisles LATER, man rushes up and grabs kiddo. mom might have had her back turned grabbing something off of the top shelf.

the guy was then tackled to the ground by customers and employees, who held him for the police.

sometimes, taking your baby to walmart IS caring for them. sometimes, they need food or medicine, and no amount of hugging is going to make it better until they can get it.


I didn't see that part, Lulu. I thought it happened by the cashier.

Wow, it almost sounds like he stalked her. That's scary. I can't imagine how horrified I would have been if a man rushed up and grabbed my baby like that. To me, a 2-year-old is still my baby.

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 09/10/09 08:21 AM
and THAT is why they invented pepper spray


(ohhh okay it wan't really. they invented pepper spray for grizzly bear attacks but you know what I mean)

no photo
Thu 09/10/09 09:55 AM

but we still dont know what a nonce is
We call a person a Nonce in the UK if he is a Known child molester

adj4u's photo
Mon 09/14/09 02:29 AM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 09/14/09 02:30 AM
sounds wrong to me

what anyone that has a different point of view is baiting and trolling


interesting

very interesting

adj4u's photo
Mon 09/14/09 02:43 AM
what because she is the mother of an attacked child she can do no wrong


if my kid was threatened i would want to remove them from the threat


maybe she just did not care enough to do so

adj4u's photo
Mon 09/14/09 03:00 AM

i think some of the details are being missed.

the guy threatened to shut the baby up, and they went about their separate ways. two aisles LATER, man rushes up and grabs kiddo. mom might have had her back turned grabbing something off of the top shelf.

the guy was then tackled to the ground by customers and employees, who held him for the police.

sometimes, taking your baby to walmart IS caring for them. sometimes, they need food or medicine, and no amount of hugging is going to make it better until they can get it.


so they went off their separate ways

but she did not choose to protect the child by removing her from danger

good mother yer right

i already said in my first sentance in the thread the guy was wrong and should be charged

but maybe the mother endangered the child by staying in the area of the threat

adj4u's photo
Mon 09/14/09 03:10 AM

where did we get the idea that children are to be "controlled"?

guided with discipline and love...led in the right direction, yes. taught.

children are people, too, and they have a right to their own emotions. just because we don't agree with them, that doesn't give US the right to squash them.


what do you call guided


guid·ed, guid·ing, guides
v.tr.
1. To serve as a guide for; conduct.
2. To direct the course of; steer: guide a ship through a channel.
3. To exert control or influence over.
4. To supervise the training or education of.


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#3 says it all

3. To exert control or influence over.

a rose by any other name still smells as sweet

daniel48706's photo
Mon 09/14/09 04:24 AM
Sorry adj, most of the time you and I agree damn near as if we were cloned from the same robot lol, but this time I can not agree.

As Lulu pointed out, the mother was there with her child to get medicine the child needed. Good mother.

When stranger threatened the child, mother went to a different area, AWAY from the stranger, and kept shopping for her child's medicine which the child obviously needed. Good Mother.

Stranger came from a completely different aisle, with the specific intent to harm the child. He was probably NOT yelling and screaming his intent, but moving quietly as he PLANNED to hit the child, so even though he had been a threat earlier, the mother was still caught by surprise because she thought she had removed her and her child from the threat already. BAD STRANGER.

About the only possible thing the mother should have done, was MAYBE called store management after the first threat and ask that the guy be escorted out of the store and off the property, which in those circumstances many store management will do as they want the business of the mother more than that of the maniacle crazed stranger.

But it was a judgement call, and as I said she probably figured everything was already diffused and taken care of when she walked away fromt he guy the first time.

Winx's photo
Mon 09/14/09 05:08 AM

what because she is the mother of an attacked child she can do no wrong


if my kid was threatened i would want to remove them from the threat


maybe she just did not care enough to do so


shocked

franshade's photo
Mon 09/14/09 06:16 AM


what because she is the mother of an attacked child she can do no wrong


if my kid was threatened i would want to remove them from the threat


maybe she just did not care enough to do so


shocked


woohoooo Winx, I wanna go back in time 2 flowerforyou you look amazing!!!! flowerforyou

:heart: Robin's always going against the grain flowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Mon 09/14/09 06:45 AM

Sorry adj, most of the time you and I agree damn near as if we were cloned from the same robot lol, but this time I can not agree.

As Lulu pointed out, the mother was there with her child to get medicine the child needed. Good mother.

When stranger threatened the child, mother went to a different area, AWAY from the stranger, and kept shopping for her child's medicine which the child obviously needed. Good Mother.

Stranger came from a completely different aisle, with the specific intent to harm the child. He was probably NOT yelling and screaming his intent, but moving quietly as he PLANNED to hit the child, so even though he had been a threat earlier, the mother was still caught by surprise because she thought she had removed her and her child from the threat already. BAD STRANGER.

About the only possible thing the mother should have done, was MAYBE called store management after the first threat and ask that the guy be escorted out of the store and off the property, which in those circumstances many store management will do as they want the business of the mother more than that of the maniacle crazed stranger.

But it was a judgement call, and as I said she probably figured everything was already diffused and taken care of when she walked away fromt he guy the first time.


that was speculation as what she was shopping for



Authorities say the girl and her mother were shopping Monday when the toddler began crying. The police report says Stephens approached the mother and said, "If you don't shut that baby up, I will shut her up for you."



and i am sorry if my two year old was making enough of a ruckus that a stranger threatened them i would completely leave the threat not just move to another aisle

especially if the child did not stop what was creating the issue

is it something the mother had to do or even should worry about ---maybe not ---but if she had would the incident have happened ---would the child have been struck

lets say the mother had to go to the store has not arrived yet but while on the way to the store she sees a disruptive and violent crowd between her and the store but she needs to go to the store so she takes the child threw the crowd and the child gets hurt is she a good mother

if not why

no photo
Mon 09/14/09 06:47 AM


what because she is the mother of an attacked child she can do no wrong


if my kid was threatened i would want to remove them from the threat


maybe she just did not care enough to do so


shocked



yes quite outlandish point of view isnt it
almost attention seeking
imo

willing2's photo
Mon 09/14/09 06:51 AM



what because she is the mother of an attacked child she can do no wrong


if my kid was threatened i would want to remove them from the threat


maybe she just did not care enough to do so


shocked


woohoooo Winx, I wanna go back in time 2 flowerforyou you look amazing!!!! flowerforyou

:heart: Robin's always going against the grain flowerforyou

Dang Fran,
You is one hot Mamasita!!love :tongue:

adj4u's photo
Mon 09/14/09 06:54 AM



what because she is the mother of an attacked child she can do no wrong


if my kid was threatened i would want to remove them from the threat


maybe she just did not care enough to do so


shocked



yes quite outlandish point of view isnt it
almost attention seeking
imo



hey it is you're not your

adj4u's photo
Mon 09/14/09 06:58 AM




what because she is the mother of an attacked child she can do no wrong


if my kid was threatened i would want to remove them from the threat


maybe she just did not care enough to do so


shocked


woohoooo Winx, I wanna go back in time 2 flowerforyou you look amazing!!!! flowerforyou

:heart: Robin's always going against the grain flowerforyou

Dang Fran,
You is one hot Mamasita!!love :tongue:


yes she is
drool drool

here fran
flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


digger56's photo
Mon 09/14/09 06:58 AM
He might have slapped my child once and only once because I would have taken him out!!!!

adj4u's photo
Mon 09/14/09 07:00 AM



what because she is the mother of an attacked child she can do no wrong


if my kid was threatened i would want to remove them from the threat


maybe she just did not care enough to do so


shocked


woohoooo Winx, I wanna go back in time 2 flowerforyou you look amazing!!!! flowerforyou

:heart: Robin's always going against the grain flowerforyou


that is the best way to raise awareness of other options or possible solutions to social situations

such as this one