He called animal control and they will handle it. He has covered himself. Animal control usually will come same day. By reading the post it sounded like someone that is afraid of dogs and if he had a gun he would shoot them. Wierd to me. The type of dog he mentions is not known for aggression. Most, not all, dogs bark!!!

Okay. Let's do it your way. He should go ahead a take his kids out front because he has a right to do that EVEN IF HIS KIDS GET MAULED? Load of crap, indeed. You're quick to jump ahead to the courtroom scene. I'm trying to prevent the kids from having to have plastic surgery to put their lips back where they belong.

Yep.

But you won't allow him to defend himself or his kids.

Even if he doesn't use a shotgun....a cattle prod or a tazer would work equally as well.

Someone suggested a slingshot...whatever works.

The gun would be extreme, granted, but he has every right to defend himself and his children from a threat like that.

Irish Setters aren't necessarily known for being aggressive either...but when I was a kid there was one that lived in a house that I had to ride my bike past ( and yes....I had to ride past that house ) and that dog ALWAYS tried to bite me. He even got close enough to have his wide open jaws about an inch and a half from my calf.

I don't care what kind of dog it is...if it's trained to be aggressive ( like the two retrievers seem to have been trained ) it poses a threat when it's not contained of controlled.

I have noticed that some people do not like dogs, are afraid of dogs or both. I have seen people totally afraid of my 14 pound dog that just wants to play with them!!!
People that KNOW about dogs just start petting and playing with my dog even in a store (where dogs are allowed) or the park.

Very true Some people are even scared of their own shadow

But what does any of that have to do with this guy having to deal with two aggressive dogs???

Absolutely, but let's not go nuts. We have a problem here with coyotes eating our little cats & dogs. I stopped the animal control people one day and asked what I could do. She said to keep my cats inside. It's a little different deal but same concept. If I care about my cats I'll keep them in. I could read a code that says, "No coyotes shall consume little putty tats blah, blah, blah" but in the meantime I'm going to keep my cats inside. Until this guy's neighbor settles down, sells his dogs, or he dies or moves this man needs to keep his children out of harm's way.

I understand that. BUT...that's basically saying " There's nothing you can do " which means that the laws there have no teeth at all.

I mean...what if his back door goes to a fenced in yard??? Does he have to go out the back door....throw the kids over the fence...then go to the next block to leave his house???

Look back a bit. Animal Control did, indeed, come out.

They did nothing but drive by.

The chances of the dogs being out at the particular time the Animal Control warden comes past that house are pretty slim.

What now?

Because he may have the perception that they are aggressive?? Have they ever bitten anyone in his area? knocked someone down? Some dogs just bark, he most likely does not understand dogs.
I think people like him would complain of any dogs close to their home.
If it was a pit bull he may have a case, too much documentation of this breed harming people.

If the dogs can sense that he fears them, then that will only prompt them to take a more aggressive stance toward him and his children.

I am sorry to hear about Zeus, when my Lab died about 4 yrs ago I was heartbroken My little Min-pin has helped me get over the loss.

Agree,Agree!!! He needs to buff up and tell his kids to buff up too.

Hmmm...I have an aussie blue cattledog, same as mel gibson in Mad Max...or RoadWarrior or what ever it was called..

Smartest dog breed in Australia...met her at 3 weeks in the whelping box, she chose me, back again at 5 weeks, and then brought her home at 7 weeks.....their instinct is to bond, deeply with ONE...and to 'heel' it's why they are often called blue heelers.


Bred from a whole range of dogs, including dingoes, for stamina, and endurance, and intelligence...they are reknowned as one of the worst indiscriminate biters...

She was trained from 9 weeks old, to today...(it is on going, even at 10 years old) to NOT be lead trained, but voice, whistle and hand signal trained.

NEVER has she moved a muscle without checking in first. NEVER has she been collared or on a leash, or tied up.


We have an ever revolving circle of friends and people in and out of our house, even when we are not here...the doors open at daylight, and remain that way all day.


She has bitten one person in her life.....and it was a justified bite.

I was supposed to have her shot, because this arsewipe complained to the police...with only HALF the story told to them.

When they arrived to take my dog, they were gobsmacked that it was MY dog...and left without taking her, and officially warned the bloke to stay at a minimum 100 metres from my home my person and my dog, or they would recommend I sick my dog on him.


The challenge I suspect you face, Daniel, is two untrained dogs, and a lazy owner.

I think that is all it is. Lazy owner, dogs untrained.
I am sure the dogs are fine and not out looking to bite someone.

Insofar as animal cruelty is concerned, I agree with you 100%. What you seem to have not understood from my post however, is that the dog was not simply barking at the end of it's chain. it was not even attached to it's chains (which is against the law in New York), and it left it's yard, on the run, to chase my sons, and then threaten me when I got in between it and my son's. So this is not a case of abusing an innocent animal. It is a case of defense IN MY OWN YARD, against an aggressive animal that is unleashed against state law.

I agree with you completely Keith. As I said in an earlier post, it is the way an animal is raised and trained, and in a situation like this, the animals should be removed from the care of my neighbors, as my neighbors seem to think it is perfectly all right to not keep control of their dogs. I would MUCH prefer to see them removed and retrained, instead of something drastic happening, like someone being bitten, or the dog getting shot because he is threatening someone. BUT when the dog is actually threatening/attacking is NOT the time to do anything except remove the threat.

I agree with you and have already been going out back until this is resolved. However, to go ANYWHERE other than the back yard, you have to cross to the front yard. This includes my children getting on the school bus.

In yesterdays situation, we left through the back door, walked around front (away from the general direction of the neighbors house) and were going towards the store. The dog left his own yard to come into mine.

However, as someone mentioned I should not have to go through this insanity. I have my rights, and I am sorry, but as much as I am for animal rights and am against animal cruelty, MY rights and YOUR rights as a human being, come FIRST. It is state law that the dogs be kept on a leash or chain; even in a fenced in backyard they are required by law to be on a chain or tether of some sort.

and to comment on another posters remarks about the animal control officer handling it? I am sorry to deflate your opinion of animal control, but MOST places animal control will NOT stop at the residence in question, unless they see something happening AS THEY DRIVE PAST. After I called animal control yesterday, he came by about 4 hours after the incident, and simply drove by at about 10 miles an hour. Never even stopped or got out of his car. The sad fact is, this is how most places operate for animal control, unless there has been an injury already imposed.