Well I honestly Havn't taken the time to read the last 20 or so pages so i'll tell you about me. I "Used" to be a Nice guy, but being the Nice guy Women tend to walk all over you. now dont get me wrong, at my core i'm still the same courtious, nice Gentleman that my parents raised me to be, I dont act like an ******* either. i've found my happy medium. I'm just very closed when I meet women, I don't really talk alot about myself I figure if they really want to get to know me they have to work for it because the one thing I've learned about women is anything that they seriously put time and effort in, their not so quick to abandon. I'm highly charismatic and I love to flirt like a fiend, however if I found myself a partner in crime I wouldnt beat on her or do a bunch of other bs. in that respect i'm still the nice guy, however I just dont put up with the **** that I used to & i'm quick to walk out on what I say is a losing situation. so nowadays it takes alot for a woman to get me to go back to their place, even more to come back to mine, and my wallet is a vault.

lol my man, You are suffering what I would call real life syndrome...If you have ever been or wanted to be nice to a women you might want to think twice....Women have made it abundantly clear they mostly do not seek a gentle giant, more a arrogant napolean...The middle ground is where you walk the best line but it is a fine line and is allmost allways overstepped on one way or another...If you have found a happy women who doesnt have insanely unreallistic expectations and allways want more then you are a few of the lucky ones...I say that because I have a family that is large and mostly women and hearing them speak of these kind of things makes me sick...If you are gonna be nice move to another country they do not cherish that here...Good luck

I agree so much.. Mythicalman summed it up quite perfectly.. And good Luck Man.

That's a true story.

Steve gets all the ladies,

I am having a hard time believing that you are a 'nice guy'... the whining hasn't increased through the thread nor have you gotten mad when people suggest changes in behavior! Conculsion: Not a 'nice' guy, just pretending to be a 'nice' guy to get into some girl's pants!

"doh" you figured me out, oh boo hoo, now what do I do? lol

I knew it!

Had your fun of playing sherlock holmes? lol

I'm wondering which women is the lucky suter?Good luck to you not so nice guy

Don't need to be a detective Intuitive!

Well think you want hun, you have no idea who i am. So i don't have any reason to prove such things.

Yep! Totally know I am right!

That's cute, you like being right huh? Fine you win!

Yep!

But still totally not a nice guy!