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I'm not gonna let them stop me from pursuing her though if I really want to, even if I have to wait a year. So you think you can step into this girls life and tell her parents they cant stop you and that your gonna pursue her anyway? That is a stalking pedophile and all they have to do is call the cops and you go to jail. All I am saying is, wait till she is 18 or suffer the law, or suffer the parents. |
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I'm not gonna let them stop me from pursuing her though if I really want to, even if I have to wait a year. So you think you can step into this girls life and tell her parents they cant stop you and that your gonna pursue her anyway? That is a stalking pedophile and all they have to do is call the cops and you go to jail. All I am saying is, wait till she is 18 or suffer the law, or suffer the parents. john thats basically what i said.good post! |
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Edited by
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"I'm not gonna let them stop me from pursuing her though if I really want to, even if I have to wait a year." that kinda worries me hes soo persistent if if her parents say no. when i was 16 my mom didnt stand over me on the computer but she did keep an eye on me and asked me who i was talking to.now im 24 and im thankful my mom was involved with who i talked to online and off cuz now as an adult i make good decisions has she not kept and an eye on my me with me 16 and with crazy hormones there is not telling what could have happend to me. why does he have a death grip on this issue even if her parents say no? Cause he is still a kids too, and he thinks he knows what he is doing. We are petty old people that don't know a thing about nothing. We all felt that way , but we all learned the hard way, we never listened, we learned the hard way, and just hope he decides to listen. |
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Edited by
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I think I'm about finished here, you're all gonna think what you want to regardless of anything I say, it's pointless to keep arguing it, so I'm done posting in this thread.
Good night everyone. PS: John I don't recall such a thread you mentioned earlier, if you find it, you can PM me if you wish but I don't remember doing that. |
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even teen rebels but its a parents job to keep their child safe for anything or anybody they deem unsafe.and i dont think a 16 year old needs o be around someone 5 years older then her.id be keeping the cops on speed dial and a bat and gun very handy There would be no more internet at my house and more. It is my job to protect my child. I do understand that, but at the same time I wouldn't want to rule in a totalitrian manner, particularly in an issue like this. I would at the least try and hear her side of it, before making any assumptions as to if the person is good or bad, it's only fair IMO. I am not my child's friend. I am their parent. That doesn't make me an authoritarian parent. A 16 year old should be hanging out with kids their own age and not people 21 and older. I don't care how good how bad or good they care. I agree. I would consider myself a bad parent if I did otherwise. I understand you care for your kids and all, but you can't make every decision for them, they should be free to do as they wish, within reason provided you have knowledge of what is happening, why and who, etc. At 16 years old, I can make the decision that they don't email with adults. I would be irresponsible to do otherwise. I don't know where you get a 16 year old "should be free to do as they wish". That doesn't even make sense. Free within reason, you can't keep them under lock and key, especially at that age. They'll just rebel and sneak out if you try and do that. Best thing to me is to be flexible but also firm if you really need to, but firm should only be used once you have a fair understanding of a situation from both sides, not just one. Maybe you would try to sneak out. I had rules and curfews when I was 16. I didn't even think about sneaking out. It's normal to have to have such things. Rules and such I can somewhat understand, but when you start to infringe on their freedom to do certain things, because of your own self imposed feelings on it as opposed to looking at it objectively, it becomes different at least in my mind. Infringe on what freedom? A 16 year old doesn't have that kind of freedom. Their job is school and friends their age. It's my job to protect and guide my child. Freedom to make certain decisions on her own, without having to worry that her parents are gonna immediately put the kibosh on it without having any idea what they are putting the kibosh on. The bottom line is, the parents have the right to stop it, the law is on their side and there is nothing that can be done if they don't like it. And even if the parent s give consent and you and her get emotionally high and one things leads to another and you have sex. Your guilty and you go to jail, even if she said it was OK, your going to jail, even if the parents say that they gave you permission and let you use their house, you are guilty. Thats the law. Thats the way it works and if you are willing to take that risk, then go for it. I could have sworn you posted in another thread just like this one regarding the exact same issue, and you where on our side with the whole thing. Maybe I am wrong, i will have to go back and look. Just be careful, its not worth ruining your life. "I'm not gonna let them stop me from pursuing her though if I really want to, even if I have to wait a year." that kinda worries me hes soo persistent if if her parents say no. when i was 16 my mom didnt stand over me on the computer but she did keep an eye on me and asked me who i was talking to.now im 24 and im thankful my mom was involved with who i talked to online and off cuz now as an adult i make good decisions has she not kept and an eye on my me with me 16 and with crazy hormones there is not telling what could have happend to me. why does he have a death grip on this issue even if her parents say no? Cause he is still a kids too, and he thinks he knows what he is doing. We are petty old people that don't know a thing about nothing. We all felt that way , but we all learned the hard way, we never listened, we learned the hard way, and just hope he decides to listen. john im not old im 24 lol but yes i agree we have experience but we know nothing |
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Edited by
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I think I'm about finished here, you're all gonna think what you want to regardless of anything I say, it's pointless to keep arguing it, so I'm done posting in this thread. Good night everyone. PS: John I don't recall such a thread you mentioned earlier, if you find it, you can PM me if you wish but I don't remember doing that. We are trying to help you understand and you refuse to listen. You ask for our thoughts and when we gave them, you jumped on the deffensive. We dont think what we want, that's what you not getting, we are parents, we think what is best for our kids, and the law says, they are kids from birth to 18, and all of that time in between, WE OWN THEM.HA!!  Hey, just be wise and be careful, and good luck. AND STAY AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER...   |
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I think I'm about finished here, you're all gonna think what you want to regardless of anything I say, it's pointless to keep arguing it, so I'm done posting in this thread. Good night everyone. PS: John I don't recall such a thread you mentioned earlier, if you find it, you can PM me if you wish but I don't remember doing that. We are trying to help you understand and you refuse to listen. You ask for our thoughts and when we gave them, you jumped on the offensive. We dont think what we want, that's what you not getting, we are parents, we think what is best for our kids, and the law says, they are kids from birth to 18, and all of that time in between, WE OWN THEM.HA!! Hey, just be wise and be careful, and good luck. AND STAY AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER... im not a parent i was just raised right by 2 awesome parents im just 24 but ive had a good up bringing but it seems to me hes mad b.c we werent telling him what he wanted to hear but if he ends up in jail with bubba hed be wising hed listen!thats why im going to keep a bat and a gun shall i ever have kids! |
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Edited by
John1932
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Fri 07/31/09 02:08 AM
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Cause he is still a kids too, and he thinks he knows what he is doing. We are petty old people that don't know a thing about nothing. We all felt that way , but we all learned the hard way, we never listened, we learned the hard way, and just hope he decides to listen. john im not old im 24 lol but yes i agree we have experience but we know nothing Hey, I'm not old either,  I just mean that he looks at us in that way. I know your age, Ive seen your profile HAHA!! I check out every bodies profile when I can, some more than others, cause I forget their ages or where they are from. |
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even teen rebels but its a parents job to keep their child safe for anything or anybody they deem unsafe.and i dont think a 16 year old needs o be around someone 5 years older then her.id be keeping the cops on speed dial and a bat and gun very handy There would be no more internet at my house and more. It is my job to protect my child. I do understand that, but at the same time I wouldn't want to rule in a totalitrian manner, particularly in an issue like this. I would at the least try and hear her side of it, before making any assumptions as to if the person is good or bad, it's only fair IMO. I am not my child's friend. I am their parent. That doesn't make me an authoritarian parent. A 16 year old should be hanging out with kids their own age and not people 21 and older. I don't care how good how bad or good they care. I agree. I would consider myself a bad parent if I did otherwise. I understand you care for your kids and all, but you can't make every decision for them, they should be free to do as they wish, within reason provided you have knowledge of what is happening, why and who, etc. At 16 years old, I can make the decision that they don't email with adults. I would be irresponsible to do otherwise. I don't know where you get a 16 year old "should be free to do as they wish". That doesn't even make sense. Free within reason, you can't keep them under lock and key, especially at that age. They'll just rebel and sneak out if you try and do that. Best thing to me is to be flexible but also firm if you really need to, but firm should only be used once you have a fair understanding of a situation from both sides, not just one. Maybe you would try to sneak out. I had rules and curfews when I was 16. I didn't even think about sneaking out. It's normal to have to have such things. Rules and such I can somewhat understand, but when you start to infringe on their freedom to do certain things, because of your own self imposed feelings on it as opposed to looking at it objectively, it becomes different at least in my mind. Infringe on what freedom? A 16 year old doesn't have that kind of freedom. Their job is school and friends their age. It's my job to protect and guide my child. Freedom to make certain decisions on her own, without having to worry that her parents are gonna immediately put the kibosh on it without having any idea what they are putting the kibosh on. The bottom line is, the parents have the right to stop it, the law is on their side and there is nothing that can be done if they don't like it. And even if the parent s give consent and you and her get emotionally high and one things leads to another and you have sex. Your guilty and you go to jail, even if she said it was OK, your going to jail, even if the parents say that they gave you permission and let you use their house, you are guilty. Thats the law. Thats the way it works and if you are willing to take that risk, then go for it. I could have sworn you posted in another thread just like this one regarding the exact same issue, and you where on our side with the whole thing. Maybe I am wrong, i will have to go back and look. Just be careful, its not worth ruining your life. "I'm not gonna let them stop me from pursuing her though if I really want to, even if I have to wait a year." that kinda worries me hes soo persistent if if her parents say no. when i was 16 my mom didnt stand over me on the computer but she did keep an eye on me and asked me who i was talking to.now im 24 and im thankful my mom was involved with who i talked to online and off cuz now as an adult i make good decisions has she not kept and an eye on my me with me 16 and with crazy hormones there is not telling what could have happend to me. why does he have a death grip on this issue even if her parents say no? Cause he is still a kids too, and he thinks he knows what he is doing. We are petty old people that don't know a thing about nothing. We all felt that way , but we all learned the hard way, we never listened, we learned the hard way, and just hope he decides to listen. john im not old im 24 lol but yes i agree we have experience but we know nothing Hey, I'm not old either, I just mean that he looks at us in that way. I know your age, Ive seen your profile HAHA!! I check out every bodies profile when I can, some more than others, cause I forget their ages or where they are from. haha i know john dont worry!but he comes off to me as a pedophile to me and im not sorry for telling him that im not much older then he is and i wont days guys younger then 21~! |
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Hey, I'm not old either, I just mean that he looks at us in that way. I know your age, Ive seen your profile HAHA!! I check out every bodies profile when I can, some more than others, cause I forget their ages or where they are from. haha i know john dont worry!but he comes off to me as a pedophile to me and im not sorry for telling him that im not much older then he is and i wont days guys younger then 21~! No, its ok, its good for someone closer to his age to help shed light on this. |
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Hey, I'm not old either, I just mean that he looks at us in that way. I know your age, Ive seen your profile HAHA!! I check out every bodies profile when I can, some more than others, cause I forget their ages or where they are from. haha i know john dont worry!but he comes off to me as a pedophile to me and im not sorry for telling him that im not much older then he is and i wont days guys younger then 21~! No, its ok, its good for someone closer to his age to help shed light on this. i told him about being a pedophile and going to jail and the laws but i guess he doesnt want to hear the real truth in the real world in his pretended land of pedophilia |
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Hey, I'm not old either, I just mean that he looks at us in that way. I know your age, Ive seen your profile HAHA!! I check out every bodies profile when I can, some more than others, cause I forget their ages or where they are from. haha i know john dont worry!but he comes off to me as a pedophile to me and im not sorry for telling him that im not much older then he is and i wont days guys younger then 21~! No, its ok, its good for someone closer to his age to help shed light on this. i told him about being a pedophile and going to jail and the laws but i guess he doesn't want to hear the real truth in the real world in his pretended land of pedophilia He just don't get it, he is confused and I hope he finds his way before it is too late. |
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Hey, I'm not old either, I just mean that he looks at us in that way. I know your age, Ive seen your profile HAHA!! I check out every bodies profile when I can, some more than others, cause I forget their ages or where they are from. haha i know john dont worry!but he comes off to me as a pedophile to me and im not sorry for telling him that im not much older then he is and i wont days guys younger then 21~! No, its ok, its good for someone closer to his age to help shed light on this. i told him about being a pedophile and going to jail and the laws but i guess he doesn't want to hear the real truth in the real world in his pretended land of pedophilia He just don't get it, he is confused and I hope he finds his way before it is too late. maybe he doesnt need access to the internet for a while i hope he does get help or gets arrested if that what it takes to set him right |
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Edited by
John1932
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Fri 07/31/09 02:05 AM
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maybe he doesnt need access to the internet for a while i hope he does get help or gets arrested if that what it takes to set him right Well he is not here to defend himself right now, so we should let it go. but I totally get what your saying. One way or another, he needs help in this matter. |
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maybe he doesnt need access to the internet for a while i hope he does get help or gets arrested if that what it takes to set him right Well he is not here to defend himself right now, so we should let it go. but I totally get what your saying. One way or another, he needs help in this matter. agreed its done and over with but i wish him to get help |
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maybe he doesnt need access to the internet for a while i hope he does get help or gets arrested if that what it takes to set him right Well he is not here to defend himself right now, so we should let it go. but I totally get what your saying. One way or another, he needs help in this matter. agreed its done and over with but i wish him to get help Agreed |
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