thanks for a straight direct and honest answer

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Thank you.

We would so get along in person -

I would not date anyone that didn't have some way of supporting themselves. I'm not Capt. Sav-a-ho!

It is tradtion for the man to pay. Generally it is the man that earns more money than the women, even today with equal rights laws.

I dont mind the tradition, i kinda expect to be the one to foot the bill most of the time. Im happier being the one to pay than being the one paid for.

As a group MEN have a tendency to feel obligated to pay

As a group WOMEN have a tendency to feel obligated to be taken care of and catered toward.

This is kind and chivalrous. I personally try to observe this unwritten but widely accepted rule. As of late I have seen others in public being taken advantage of (men and women) because they are smart and know how to manage their income.

This at no time gives another person the right to take advantage of them. I heard an expression that rings so trueL "Water seeks its own level."

It is wise to date someone that can move with you not ride on your back and take it easy.

If you every find yourself in a situation where you feel you are being taking advantage of get away or out as soon as you can. You work hard for your money and can spend it on what you like. Make sure you are spending on the things you want to and not no the things that someone else wants you to be spending it on

Have a good weekend

Not me! I won't even pay for a woman's drink until AFTER we've had sex. But, when they buy me a drink I'll sit and yalk to them while I drink it.

Effing DITTO !!!!

female version of Capt Sav-a-Ho is
Lieutenant Need-a-Man

I will never

Or have I ever

Pay for any man. Ever!!

(sound bitter?)

I've had some men tell me that I will never pay for a date with him and that I was sweet to offer, but no way, ever.

I've dated some men without jobs and we've cooked at one or the other's place, rented movies, took walks, strolled old downtown and window shopped.

I've also dated men without jobs where I have paid, but it's infrequent and not expected by them, and it's at a very reasonable place.

I've also been asked out by a man and when it came time for the check, I was expected by him to pay my own half. Then, don't ask ME out and take ME to a sort of hefty priced place! Wasn't my choice!!

i grind i grind i grind.....

they say baby boy why is voice so horse...

i said i should been a porshe like vroooooooommmmmm

But so often most men dont see it as paying they call it treating. (add Halloween reference here)

Also most men that pay never get what they paid for because they are not direct about what they think they are paying for - but that is next weeks post

Texas - do you understand this phrase 101 Graduate?

naw you dont sound bitter - you just havent met a man worth paying for

you got a man to go not only shopping with you but window shopping I dont even have a witty comeback for that one

Nope.

If i pay for dinner i already got what i was paying for.

I am a brit, the dating scene is entirely different over here. Plus i am in a relationship anyway so dont go on dates as such.If i were single, id expect and insist to pay for the first date, at least. After that it depends, im generous but not a fool.

Rightly or wrongly, if you are a man and you cant or wont pay for a date, you are gonna be going out on less dates.

No jerk. the answer is NO.

$60?? You can't even sneeze in this town for $60!!

Whether I pay or my date pays (and we do alternate), the average dinner, drinks, and some kind of activity date is roughly $180-250. Most cover charges for clubs range from $20-$50 for VIP.

I don't need, or desire, the type of night mentioned above every week, but at least once a month, I have to get my "Vegas" on (even if it's just with the girls or I am 5th wheel with my friends)! With San Fran, LA, and Vegas all within an easy hour's reach, I can't skip rock star nights.

If we just go to the movies, I'd rather stay home, rent it, and cook. I love making Hollywood Teas (like a Long Island Tea) and hanging out in shorts and a tank top all night too.

I agree with Lilith that dates don’t have to cost anything. Hiking, biking, wine tasting (nominal), walking the dogs at the lake, etc, is great fun. Pack some food, and we're good to go! If the guy is 'presentable' enough ( ) I also like to have friends over -- or go to their homes -- for BBQing, Rock Band parties, etc.

When I want to do something REALLY expensive, I invite and pay. I would never expect anyone that I am not seriously involved with to whisk me off to Cabo for a 4 day weekend or go to an out of state NFL game. If I want to go, and I have the funds for both then I buy and fly!

Back to your question:

I think anyone should be able to date whether they have a job or not. Unless two people become seriously involved, and as long as the 'said' person is financially independent then it's not the other person's business whether they have a job or not!

If the jobless person becomes an albatross ... well ... then send them on their way.

I adore dating and doing extravagant things but I certainly don’t reflect that onto the person I am dating, and I also watch for the red flags if a guy starts to take advantage of me. I am no sugar momma!

HORSE HOCKY!

Firstly, I've dated women in London and I have found them very willing to pay for dates and show me around the nightclub scene.

Secondly, I went on dates with three differant women last week and didn't pay for any of them.

Thirdly, two of those dates lasted all night and the last one wants to cook dinner for me tonight at her place.