I must be invisible, I did say they existed, just not so much anymore because men have become suspicious and they've gotten grief about their behavior from other women. You want someone to admit they've ruin our chances... well, they sure haven't helped. I must ask though, what exactly distracts a man to the fact that a woman is gold-digger to the point of such bitterness. I mean, at some point you must see the signs, the red flags, and anything given beyond that point is on you.

Exactly what I was thinking. My friend's husband lost his job this past fall...he's a mechanic, and the economy took down the shop he was working for. She didn't even consider leaving, she encouraged him daily when he was out looking for work, and she made sure he knew how much she loves him. He found another job, and life as usual resumed. He doesn't make as much as he did, but they adjusted and their marriage is as strong as ever.

I'm not going to post the usual "not all women are like that", because it seems to me to be as pointless as spitting into the wind. I've learned that fighting against generalization out here is an exercise in futility, so I'm just going to say that I'm sorry you feel that way, Atlantis, and hope that you eventually meet the woman that proves you wrong :)

How is anyone who holds the sins of the past partners against the new ones EVER gonna find love?

It will never happen.

I find that most men my age have been ruined by other woman from their past.

I've noticed it too... Sad isn't it, letting others control your life like that... (((Gyps)))

so you women are saying you'd go for a guy with no job?






yeah right....

I don't think anyone said that JT...

i think woman just want me for my disco stick.!

I would rather go with a guy who treats me like gold and works at burger king. Someone who works hard at whatever they do than some loser with a ton of money. Been there done that. And Ive had a lot of money and little money.....I was happier poor.

yur just tryin to get fee whoppers.!!!

Yes I am!!!

I think the concensus here has been that he needs to have a job, be responsible and not be ruined by the other women in his past. That might be good?

I'm not one of them.......but this is a thought....what if the women who are looking for sugar daddies are willing to take on the role of caretaker, cleaning lady, accountant and all that within the household? In return, they get the material things they wish for. Not a bad gig for some guy who's got the bucks. He gets an attentive lady and she gets those "things" she needs.

There's someone out there for everyone.......

It's also another thing, somehow I'm generalizing? I noted in the first post basically that if it is not your shirt don't wear it.

If I would have been generalizing I would use words as "all", "none", "everybody", "nobody".

Go through every single post of mine in this thread and find me one of those, where i generalized.

It's just strange, how I get the feeling, that I shouldn't be talking about this, like i'm talking about a tabu or forbidden topic.

Just because some refuse to believe, or simply this is not a "happy" topic, it doesn't mean we should not talk about it.

I should have clarified my post better, it seems. Perhaps I misunderstood the post regarding the definition of denial.

That's another thing...partially vengence sort of post of mine, partially true for some people.

Well then I redact my statement as it applies to this thread, lol, and am going to wander into another sandbox to play ;)

once we figure all this out, where does that leave us? honestly, nowhere different than where we are now. people are people, gender really doesn't have anything to do with this, it's attitude. personally, i'm with IndnPrcs, i'm comfortable in my own shoes and i have no expectations of finding a man. if someone would happen along who allows me the opportunity to enjoy and cherish the things important to 'us', well then, maybe i won't grow old rocking on the porch by myself. peace.

Did you ever think it just might be possible that we were giving out honest opinions and not being in denial?
You sound too jaded to even be dating right now in mho.