Topic: WHO SHOULD BE PARANOID???
yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:10 PM
kat....even though i haven't shot a gun YET (which i'm going to learn this weekend) i knwo how to be prepared....may family and friends cops or ex cops....don't underestimate me...and i assure you...i won't rely on a bat when it comes to protecting my son

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:11 PM

offtopic Fanta, this explains the size of St. Louis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Louis,_Missouri


The FBI report refers to the City limits!

That is the area inside the City limit signs.
Not the suburbs!
Not the suburbs!
Not the suburbs!

330,000 is small!
St. Louis is ranked 52nd in the US in Population!

Now!
Who's arguing?

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:12 PM
Big Problems in Mostly White Neighborhoods

While murder is still far more likely to occur in a St. Louis neighborhood that is mostly African-American, there are also mostly white city neighborhoods that have serious problems with violent crime.

In 2005-2007, the Central West End had the highest overall crime index in the city, according to the St. Louis police department. The Central West End has a population that is 2/3 white and is arguably the most affluent neighborhood in the city.

Last year, police investigated 77 armed robberies in the Central West End, the second highest number of armed robberies for any city neighborhood, even more than Wells-Goodfellow, Hamilton Heights and Walnut Park East and West, neighborhoods with far higher murder rates.

The number of property crimes in the Central West End far exceeded any other neighborhood. In 2007, the neighborhood had 295 auto thefts, the most in the city.

Based on the number of crimes against people, the most violent neighborhood in the city
is Dutchtown in South St. Louis, which also has a population that is 2/3 white.

Last year, police investigated 364 crimes against people in Dutchtown. The crimes include murder, rape, robbery, armed robbery, aggravated assault and aggravated assault with a gun. Dutchtown had more crimes against people than Wells-Goodfellow, which is the focus of a massive local and federal task force of cops, agents and prosecutors targeting criminal activity in the most murderous neighborhood in the city.

So, clearly violent crime, and high levels of all crime also happen in mostly white neighborhoods in the city.

http://www.beloblog.com/KMOV_Blogs/n4idailybriefing/2008/08/news-4-investigates-murder-hit.html

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:13 PM
who cares about the size of st. louis....it's not like it's immune to crime

Winx's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:13 PM


offtopic Fanta, this explains the size of St. Louis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Louis,_Missouri
Edit:
and the rest of St. Louis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_County,_Missouri




The FBI report refers to the City limits!

That is the area inside the City limit signs.
Not the suburbs!
Not the suburbs!
Not the suburbs!

330,000 is small!
St. Louis is ranked 52nd in the US in Population!

Now!
Who's arguing?

Winx's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:15 PM


offtopic Fanta, this explains the size of St. Louis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Louis,_Missouri


The FBI report refers to the City limits!

That is the area inside the City limit signs.
Not the suburbs!
Not the suburbs!
Not the suburbs!

330,000 is small!
St. Louis is ranked 52nd in the US in Population!

Now!
Who's arguing?


I'm not arguing, Fanta.slaphead

You didn't believe me when I said how long it takes to drive through the city. I was curious and looked up the size.

You're talking about something different here.lol

Winx's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:15 PM

who cares about the size of st. louis....it's not like it's immune to crime


Fanta is being OCD about it.slaphead

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:16 PM


who cares about the size of st. louis....it's not like it's immune to crime


Fanta is being OCD about it.slaphead


you people have crime too...it's everywhere

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:16 PM
winx...btw....it takes 2 to argue

Winx's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:20 PM

Big Problems in Mostly White Neighborhoods

While murder is still far more likely to occur in a St. Louis neighborhood that is mostly African-American, there are also mostly white city neighborhoods that have serious problems with violent crime.

In 2005-2007, the Central West End had the highest overall crime index in the city, according to the St. Louis police department. The Central West End has a population that is 2/3 white and is arguably the most affluent neighborhood in the city.

Last year, police investigated 77 armed robberies in the Central West End, the second highest number of armed robberies for any city neighborhood, even more than Wells-Goodfellow, Hamilton Heights and Walnut Park East and West, neighborhoods with far higher murder rates.

The number of property crimes in the Central West End far exceeded any other neighborhood. In 2007, the neighborhood had 295 auto thefts, the most in the city.

Based on the number of crimes against people, the most violent neighborhood in the city
is Dutchtown in South St. Louis, which also has a population that is 2/3 white.

Last year, police investigated 364 crimes against people in Dutchtown. The crimes include murder, rape, robbery, armed robbery, aggravated assault and aggravated assault with a gun. Dutchtown had more crimes against people than Wells-Goodfellow, which is the focus of a massive local and federal task force of cops, agents and prosecutors targeting criminal activity in the most murderous neighborhood in the city.

So, clearly violent crime, and high levels of all crime also happen in mostly white neighborhoods in the city.

http://www.beloblog.com/KMOV_Blogs/n4idailybriefing/2008/08/news-4-investigates-murder-hit.html


Those are bad neighborhoods to me - Wells-Goodfellow, Hamilton Heights and Walnut Park East and West. Dutchtown is black, Hispanic and white trash.

The CWE is not safe at night. It separates the south side from the north side. When they talk about it being 2/3 white, it's not very large. The crime from the Northside seeps in there.

I don't live near those places!!!

Why are you so OCD about St. Louis right now? Stop being tit for tat.frustrated

Winx's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:20 PM



who cares about the size of st. louis....it's not like it's immune to crime


Fanta is being OCD about it.slaphead


you people have crime too...it's everywhere


Yes, it's everywhere, Rose.

Winx's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:21 PM

winx...btw....it takes 2 to argue


I'm not arguing.


Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:24 PM

who cares about the size of st. louis....it's not like it's immune to crime


The City of St Louis proper has the highest violent crime rate in the Nation, and Winx said she has never seen an NRA sticker.

I was saying that that is probably why they have the highest violent crime rate. Because a high rate of law-abiding gun ownership is the most effective deterrent to violent crime.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:25 PM
if someone thinks they can over power someone that has a gun with a bat or whatever....you better make sure you disable him!!!!!!!

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:25 PM
i find it hard to believe that NO ONE has a NRA bumper sticker

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:31 PM

i find it hard to believe that NO ONE has a NRA bumper sticker


It is a little hard to imagine, but I'll take winx's word on it!

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:34 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Thu 04/23/09 11:34 PM
The National Rifle Association (NRA) announced today it will hold its 136th Annual Meetings and Exhibits in St. Louis, April 13-17, 2007. During the weekend convention, America's Center will be filled with more than 60,000 people exploring five acres of guns, hunting equipment and outdoor gear.

"St. Louis truly is the gateway to the heartland of America and thousands of NRA members and supporters," said NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre. "The Second Amendment stands at the gateway of freedom and there is no better place to celebrate freedom than St. Louis."

http://www.nra.org/Article.aspx?id=3573

now this was in 2007....i can imagine it's bigger now

74Drew's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:39 PM
i don't own a gun. i would, but i've got nowhere to go shoot. i don't hunt so there's almost no reason for me to own one. i would like to have a couple though, but i'm not going to have one just so it can collect dust.


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Winx's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:39 PM


who cares about the size of st. louis....it's not like it's immune to crime


The City of St Louis proper has the highest violent crime rate in the Nation, and Winx said she has never seen an NRA sticker.

I was saying that that is probably why they have the highest violent crime rate. Because a high rate of law-abiding gun ownership is the most effective deterrent to violent crime.


The crime rate is high because gang members like to kill other gang members. That is far from me.frustrated


Winx's photo
Thu 04/23/09 11:40 PM


i find it hard to believe that NO ONE has a NRA bumper sticker


It is a little hard to imagine, but I'll take winx's word on it!


I didn't say that no one had one. I said that I've never seen one on a vehicle.