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Some People Are Incapable of Understanding that Some People Like the Ability to Protect themselves and not Lay Down to Be Victimized. I'm a Brown Belt in Aikido and I Still Carry a .45. I only have 11 mags and 1000 rounds of ammo though, need to stock up You Can't Find .45 Ammo Here. People Buy it as it Comes off the Truck....Figuratively of Course! |
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I haven't tried to buy ammo since moving to Maryland from Louisiana, I heard it is hard to find. That is the only thing that will make me move from here is if I can't keep my pistols, Told my wife I love her dearly but will move back so quick if it comes to that.
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When a life or death crime goes down, the cops are not going to be there to stop it in most cases, they will show up after, take a report and bag the victim. cops can't predict crimes though and not enough of them to go around all the time sad huh....my son is getting his degree next year to be a cop ![]() |
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Guns don't kill.......................people do. ALL THE TIME... Such as is the case of my friend Mary. Her son would not have killed his best friend if there had been no gun in the house. 13 years old...both of them. Teach kids about guns?? Did anyone watch that special on tv the other night? It showed parents responding to their kids ignorance of guns even after being taught. Teenagers wre as bad. Another friend of mine..Ricky...his son was killed by the very gun he had brought in the house not weeks before. Another kid killed by a kid. Accidentally of course. One child killed by a gun is too many. Yes...criminals have guns...but guns also make criminals out of ordinary citizens. I am not a true anti gun person. I used to own them. They scare me now. I have seen too many deaths by guns. Kat My mother was accidentally shot in a freak accident by her brother when she was a child. ![]() |
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In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of "Wild West" showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender. The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law. Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189. By comparison, the population of Morton Grove, the first city in Illinois to adopt a gun ban for anyone other than police officers, has actually dropped slightly and stands at 22,202, according to 2005 statistics. More significantly, perhaps, the city's crime rate increased by 15.7 percent immediately after the gun ban, even though the overall crime rate in Cook County rose only 3 percent. Today, by comparison, the township's crime rate stands at 2,268 per 100,000. This was not what some predicted. Some have suggested Kennesaw would soon become a place where routine disagreements between neighbors would be settled in shootouts. The Washington Post mocked Kennesaw as "the brave little city … soon to be pistol-packing capital of the world." The Reuters story went on to report: "Since the Virginia Tech shootings, some conservative U.S. talk show hosts have rejected attempts to link the massacre to the availability of guns, arguing that had students been allowed to carry weapons on campus someone might have been able to shoot the killer." Anyone is up on crime statistic in Washington. D.C. ? I heard this was proven not accurate after the fact. For one the "law" is not enforced, it is symbolic. Second the crime rates in these towns was not high before they enacted these psuedo laws. |
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D.C. has always had a high crime rate and still does
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IMO...I blame the parents for the children getting a hold of the guns. either they weren't supervised or they weren't locked away
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I Think the Biggest Problem with Kids (who are not Properly introduced to them) and Guns is they Are told not to touch them because they are Dangerous, but Are Not Shown What they do and Probably 90% or Higher are Not Allowed under Supervision to Fire them to Feel the Power! Education, Education, Education! |
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Sad thing is; people who have never been in trouble before have been known to blow up at another simply because they pissed them off, pulled out the gun and shot them or shoved it in their faces. A gun isn't supposed to be for scare tactics and madness. It was supposed to be for hunting to eat and clothe. It was manufactured for war.
Now we have people owning machine guns and the like. No hunting gun. A killing gun. Why?? I dropped my gun in the river...threw it over a bridge. I was in this relationship at the time and knew it would be too easy to shoot him. It scared me. Got rid of it. He asked me where it was and I told him...it was the gun.... or possibly him. My ex husband was an avid gun man. He had all kinds. He had them in the walls for heavens sake. The only one who ever saw the barrel of his guns was me. He used them to intimidate me. He never had been to jail well...except that time he and his family got into this gun battle. That was something. He has never had a ticket...no kinda anything with the law. He is a bad man with a gun no less. Is he an ordinary citizen or a criminal? Kat |
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Sad thing is; people who have never been in trouble before have been known to blow up at another simply because they pissed them off, pulled out the gun and shot them or shoved it in their faces. A gun isn't supposed to be for scare tactics and madness. It was supposed to be for hunting to eat and clothe. It was manufactured for war. Now we have people owning machine guns and the like. No hunting gun. A killing gun. Why?? I dropped my gun in the river...threw it over a bridge. I was in this relationship at the time and knew it would be too easy to shoot him. It scared me. Got rid of it. He asked me where it was and I told him...it was the gun.... or possibly him. My ex husband was an avid gun man. He had all kinds. He had them in the walls for heavens sake. The only one who ever saw the barrel of his guns was me. He used them to intimidate me. He never had been to jail well...except that time he and his family got into this gun battle. That was something. He has never had a ticket...no kinda anything with the law. He is a bad man with a gun no less. Is he an ordinary citizen or a criminal? Kat Kat, I too have seen this type of activity and in a "gun area" they dismiss the gun as a problem so you cannot get any type of protection from the law. So then you are on your own to protect yourself. It can get ugly. |
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I Think the Biggest Problem with Kids (who are not Properly introduced to them) and Guns is they Are told not to touch them because they are Dangerous, but Are Not Shown What they do and Probably 90% or Higher are Not Allowed under Supervision to Fire them to Feel the Power! Education, Education, Education! This special on tv I spoke of? The worst of them were taught in classes. The parents were in shocked at the way their kids acted. They were supposedly educated. It scared me to watch the ignorance of these kids. Little kids can always find a way into just about anything if they want it bad enough. This special also asked the parents of guns and kids if their kids knew where they kept their guns. Most said they didn't. Then they asked the kids (as young as 4)if their parents owned guns and the kids always took them right to the guns and the hiding places even opened up the hiding spot and showed them. Much to the amazement of the parents. Kat |
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Same old discussion, same old results.
I will keep my guns. Licensed & legal. .22 iS all I need. |
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if We Just Kill all the Criminals Eventually We'll Run out of em ![]() |
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Edited by
scttrbrain
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Sun 04/19/09 08:38 PM
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Sad thing is; people who have never been in trouble before have been known to blow up at another simply because they pissed them off, pulled out the gun and shot them or shoved it in their faces. A gun isn't supposed to be for scare tactics and madness. It was supposed to be for hunting to eat and clothe. It was manufactured for war. Now we have people owning machine guns and the like. No hunting gun. A killing gun. Why?? I dropped my gun in the river...threw it over a bridge. I was in this relationship at the time and knew it would be too easy to shoot him. It scared me. Got rid of it. He asked me where it was and I told him...it was the gun.... or possibly him. My ex husband was an avid gun man. He had all kinds. He had them in the walls for heavens sake. The only one who ever saw the barrel of his guns was me. He used them to intimidate me. He never had been to jail well...except that time he and his family got into this gun battle. That was something. He has never had a ticket...no kinda anything with the law. He is a bad man with a gun no less. Is he an ordinary citizen or a criminal? Kat Kat, I too have seen this type of activity and in a "gun area" they dismiss the gun as a problem so you cannot get any type of protection from the law. So then you are on your own to protect yourself. It can get ugly. Yes ma'am. It was ugly. It took me 5 years to get him to quit following me after I finally left him and hid. I used to own personal...a 222, I think "swift" I can't remember, beautiful birdseye. A 22 nine shot a 30 30 a 25 and 38 snub nose dectective and at one time a 32. Oh...forgot the 22 teflon rifle that used bullets with a cross that blew up its target. Now that was cool to see. Kat |
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I don't hunt, I target shoot, have most of my life, and love my mini-30 with high cap magazines, lets me have my "mad minute" on the range.
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Some People Are Incapable of Understanding that Some People Like the Ability to Protect themselves and not Lay Down to Be Victimized. I'm a Brown Belt in Aikido and I Still Carry a .45. You're a wise man, then. Not just a strong man. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Sun 04/19/09 08:46 PM
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I Think the Biggest Problem with Kids (who are not Properly introduced to them) and Guns is they Are told not to touch them because they are Dangerous, but Are Not Shown What they do and Probably 90% or Higher are Not Allowed under Supervision to Fire them to Feel the Power! Education, Education, Education! This special on tv I spoke of? The worst of them were taught in classes. The parents were in shocked at the way their kids acted. They were supposedly educated. It scared me to watch the ignorance of these kids. Little kids can always find a way into just about anything if they want it bad enough. This special also asked the parents of guns and kids if their kids knew where they kept their guns. Most said they didn't. Then they asked the kids (as young as 4)if their parents owned guns and the kids always took them right to the guns and the hiding places even opened up the hiding spot and showed them. Much to the amazement of the parents. Kat That's because the frontal lobe of their brain isn't fully developed yet. The frontal lobes are involved in problem solving, judgment, and impulse control, and social and sexual behavior and more. They believe that nothing can happen to them too. |
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Edited by
nogames39
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Sun 04/19/09 08:43 PM
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The best way to cure stupidity is to leave it to the nature.
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Sad thing is; people who have never been in trouble before have been known to blow up at another simply because they pissed them off, pulled out the gun and shot them or shoved it in their faces. A gun isn't supposed to be for scare tactics and madness. It was supposed to be for hunting to eat and clothe. It was manufactured for war. Now we have people owning machine guns and the like. No hunting gun. A killing gun. Why?? I dropped my gun in the river...threw it over a bridge. I was in this relationship at the time and knew it would be too easy to shoot him. It scared me. Got rid of it. He asked me where it was and I told him...it was the gun.... or possibly him. My ex husband was an avid gun man. He had all kinds. He had them in the walls for heavens sake. The only one who ever saw the barrel of his guns was me. He used them to intimidate me. He never had been to jail well...except that time he and his family got into this gun battle. That was something. He has never had a ticket...no kinda anything with the law. He is a bad man with a gun no less. Is he an ordinary citizen or a criminal? Kat Kat, I too have seen this type of activity and in a "gun area" they dismiss the gun as a problem so you cannot get any type of protection from the law. So then you are on your own to protect yourself. It can get ugly. Now we have people owning machine guns and the like. No hunting gun. A killing gun. Why?? If you own a machine gun, that requires a class III lic. and they are expensive and still hard to get. |
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if We Just Kill all the Criminals Eventually We'll Run out of em ![]() Haha, who determines who a criminal is, the vigilante? Not in my world will that happen. Vigilante can base their determination on anything they want as too who should die. No patriotic American should stand for that. ![]() |
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