didn't realize willing wanted to make people slaves or chained to anything. i really don't think that is what was implied in the OP

I've read much of history. Just not all. I wasn't laughing at you. I was laughing at you making fun of me with the < > icon. I am no history teach so my historical references are limited. I remember Rome falling when it's government became too big to sustain. I also remember our founding fathers running from a centralized bank. In fact, Benjamin Franklin even admitted that this was the number one cause for the revolution.

Can you give me some dates to look up, or something abit more specific? I do want to see all sides to this. So far i have only taken the time to research one. Perhaps "working conditions,in the 19th century" and the "introduction of Karl Marx" would suffice?

An idea to help stimulate the economy and get those people back to work, who want to work.

By doing away with the Min. Wage Scale, it will not only be beneficial to Business owners, it would end job discrimination.

As it is, the Employer states just the job offered,qualifications, rate of pay and Benis

Now, if he were allowed to post just the job offered and qualifications, job applicants could bid on the job.

They could submit their applications and state how much they would do the job for and if they required benefits.

That would level the playing ground for everyone. The employer wouldn't have to accept the applicant just because they were classified a minority. They would get the most qualified at the best price and everyone would have the opportunity to have a chance at a job.

If a job applicant were to be willing to take a job below Min. Wage, I would suggest they could be supplemented through DSHS with Food Stamps and Medical. They would deserve it because they show the initiative to be of the working class. I would also recommend their rent or house payment be subsidized by HUD for the same reason.

Here is an example.
Plumbers, when you can find one. They charge no less than $45.00 an hour, depending where you are, could be higher. Let's say, if he were able to hire help and they were willing 2, play on words, work as a plumbers assistant for way below the plumbers helpers pay scale, the Plumber could not only afford to put on more help, you could find an available one and they could lower their fee. To help the economy, that's what a good American would do. If they were saving money, they could save the consumer money.

FYI -

As of January 1, Missouri's minimum went to $7.05/hour. It was $6.65 per hour. Businesses are to pay (at the lowest) $7.05 except for retail and service businesses whose annual gross sales are less than $500,000.

http://www.dolir.mo.gov/LS/minimumwage/52-AI.pdf[

In my state, U of Washinton is $6,700 dollars a year if you live at home, 19,500 if you live on campus, most community colleges are around 2500 to $3500 dollars a year around here, and most have University campuses either on campus or around town..U of W has 3 branch campuses around the state and I believe that WSU has them around for much less then the university campuses.. I never used government loans or money, but I know that most of them make that available today..

thx

close enough for the scenario

When I started out working while going to Junior High, I was making less then minimum wage.. The difference between me and my friends is that I saved all that I made until I got out of high school...excuse me, I spent $75 dollars to buy a 63 chevy impala( made a year before I was born) in high school and drove it till I graduated from college..I paid for my college by working alot of hours, had many sleepless weekends and struggled to make ends meet.
I didn't buy all the toys my friends had, I saved it to spend it on college..it is about choices not if you can or can't.

Minimum wage is not for people rasing a family, it is for kids working in high school..If they get good grades in school they can go to college and work like I did, it worked for me, it can work for anyone.
I understand that someone in different parts of the country don't have alot of choices, so do like I did, get a couple of friends together and put all your money together and move to where the oppertunities are..nobody said it would be easy, but it is not impossible to do.

Creative, you don't know where we all began at, but we all had the same oppertunities that I had..I grew up and went to school everyday, I worked hard at school and playing sports, I had to work during the summers to make money, I graduated from school and worked hard to go to college and worked during to pay my own way...no body helped me, not the government, not my parents, nobody..O sacrificed alot to improve myself and my situation, and anyone can do that.

I listened to the storys that my father used to talk about, what it was like during the depression and how people struggled and suffered, people died of starvation and sicknesses, many of my fathers family also...so I know what poverty is, I lived it, not as bad as my father did, but it wasn't much better in the early years, and I learned from it, and decided that I would never allow myself to be content with doing less then my best and providing for my family if I had one...

It is all about character and fortitude, if you don't have the desire to pull yourself up and look for a hand up, you will never reach that and always look for a hand out