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| Topic: End Job Discrimination! Nullify the Minimum Wage Scale. | |
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what??? lol...ok i CAN talk politics ya know lol i just don't get ending minimum wage and bidding on jobs type of thing. wouldn't employers go for the lowest bid and could possibly make it worse because the employee doesn't get paid what he/she should? If it were me, I wouldn't necessarily hire because of being able to pay low wages. I would look at past work history, if they were felons, qualifications, professional presentation, etc Could be, the one offering the highest bid would get it. Depending the quality and not based on race. As it is now, Employers are forced to meet a Minority quota. If three women went in today, a white, a native American and a black woman for the same job, all exactly qualified and the Employer needed, by law, to fill his minority quota, he is forced to hire the black woman. He has no choice. If Amnesty is passed, the new minority field changes and the Immigrant goes to the head of the minority status. |
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..when you look at the fact that minimum wage is already below poverty level shouldnt these people be able to get food stamps and other assistance,and why not,but if people were to bid on these jobs and i'm assuming the bids would come in under minimum wage,the idea is to put the rest of the burden on the state..good luck with that idea..minimum wage should already be at 10 an hour.. also another problem i see with your idea willing is that once an employer sees that he can get someone to do the job at a lesser salary,what happens to the people who already make more..do you honestly think that the employer isnt going to find a way to get rid of them to get someone who would do it for less..and then keep doing that until basically a person is working for nothing while the state picks up the slack.. this idea is flawed on so many levels .... 
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tombraider...that is what i was asking about. i would think an employer would hire the one that is the cheapest
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..not to mention where would taxes come from..unless the government is willing to take ..FOOD STAMPS....  ..yellowrose i agree with you on this one... 
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tombraider....i didn't think about government assistance until you mentioned it. and that is a good point
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Unfortunately Willing2, most employers would not be as generous as you would be. The state doesn't care about how much people are getting paid..they care about taking more money from those that do make it, so they can hire people to spend that money, to supposedly help those that need it... They care about supporting their budgets and increasing it, not giving it to those that need it.
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..when you look at the fact that minimum wage is already below poverty level shouldnt these people be able to get food stamps and other assistance,and why not,but if people were to bid on these jobs and i'm assuming the bids would come in under minimum wage,the idea is to put the rest of the burden on the state..good luck with that idea..minimum wage should already be at 10 an hour.. also another problem i see with your idea willing is that once an employer sees that he can get someone to do the job at a lesser salary,what happens to the people who already make more..do you honestly think that the employer isnt going to find a way to get rid of them to get someone who would do it for less..and then keep doing that until basically a person is working for nothing while the state picks up the slack.. this idea is flawed on so many levels .... Yes, there are many shortcomings to it. So many unemployed, fewer jobs, and a good chance of adding another 12 to 18 Million, through Amnesty. He's looking for a way to put people to work. That's what I hope Obama and his gang can iron out, if they consider it, the plan I faxed to them. |
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tombraider....i didn't think about government assistance until you mentioned it. and that is a good point Hey Rose, Let's say, you needed your refrigerator cleaned and me and Delsoldamien both applied for the job. Now, Delsoldamien bid it at $30.00 and I bid it at $20.00, which one of us would you rather see bent over cleaning you fridge? Would he not offer the better presentation? 
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tombraider....i didn't think about government assistance until you mentioned it. and that is a good point Hey Rose, Let's say, you needed your refrigerator cleaned and me and Delsoldamien both applied for the job. Now, Delsoldamien bid it at $30.00 and I bid it at $20.00, which one of us would you rather see bent over cleaning you fridge? Would he not offer the better presentation? to clean my fridge??? i would go with the lowest price....but they would have to supply their own maid outfit hey...you asked lol but seriously...if i'm paying...i'd go for the lower price. and you wouldn't make much of a profit |
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Unfortunately Willing2, most employers would not be as generous as you would be. The state doesn't care about how much people are getting paid..they care about taking more money from those that do make it, so they can hire people to spend that money, to supposedly help those that need it... They care about supporting their budgets and increasing it, not giving it to those that need it. I hear ya'. Now, the States have been given more incentive to increase DSHS caseloads. |
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tombraider....i didn't think about government assistance until you mentioned it. and that is a good point Hey Rose, Let's say, you needed your refrigerator cleaned and me and Delsoldamien both applied for the job. Now, Delsoldamien bid it at $30.00 and I bid it at $20.00, which one of us would you rather see bent over cleaning you fridge? Would he not offer the better presentation? to clean my fridge??? i would go with the lowest price....but they would have to supply their own maid outfit hey...you asked lol but seriously...if i'm paying...i'd go for the lower price. and you wouldn't make much of a profit You mean you'd have no problem checkin' out the fat butt of an old man bent over in yo' refer? Me, I'd pay the extra, so I could enjoy the show. 
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Hey willing...Stop talking about my butt!! hahahaha
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Hey willing...Stop talking about my butt!! hahahaha Sorry. You're the only other guy with a picture. And to be honest, you are much more attractive than I am. BTW, I'm straight as an arrow. |
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I guess I wasn't really talking about minimum wage jobs anyway. A lot of them don't have benefits to begin with, so that's probably not even an issue. Though, with your way, the employer would be able to pay people different for the same job. Two people sitting next to each other could be getting different pay and benefits for doing the exact same job. Good point. |
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wow...this thread took a turn....and for once...i didn't do it
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Thanks for the compliment Willing2, I am straight as an arrow too..
Hi Winxs, haven't heard from you in a while...I think that although the intent is right, application of it would be bad..Educating our young is the key to breaking the cycle of poverty and making sure children stay in school, do their work, and stay on the right path will help more then any government program. |
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..another problem would be where a household has many people that work together versus a single parent or couple who are affording it on their own...why do i have this feeling that this housing bust and this idea of bidding on jobs is nothing more than big corporations way of trying to hire illegals or immigrants who would work for less while increasing their profit...big corporations dont want us here they are slowly trying to make things easier for the immigrants to take our jobs and our homes...might be the REAL reason for the housing bust...wake up america... and why i'm at it how come the millions who were frauded out of their home equity have no recourse for compensation due them .... |
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I guess I wasn't really talking about minimum wage jobs anyway. A lot of them don't have benefits to begin with, so that's probably not even an issue. Though, with your way, the employer would be able to pay people different for the same job. Two people sitting next to each other could be getting different pay and benefits for doing the exact same job. Good point. Buenos, tardes, Chica. That already happens. Seniority and evaluations. I'm not saying, lock them into a wage. Bid on a starting wage and benis. A friend of mine is a housekeeper in a hospital. She makes less than a co-worker because the co-worker has seniority. She makes more than her supervisor because of his evaluations. |
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Thanks for the compliment Willing2, I am straight as an arrow too.. Hi Winxs, haven't heard from you in a while...I think that although the intent is right, application of it would be bad..Educating our young is the key to breaking the cycle of poverty and making sure children stay in school, do their work, and stay on the right path will help more then any government program. Hi. I believe that education is the key also. I'm big on education. |
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senority is different....they should make more for working there longer...but i'm talking about 2 people bidding on a job...the employer will chose the cheapest
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