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Topic: Taxation without proper representation.
Winx's photo
Wed 04/01/09 11:00 PM
Nope, not an STD.rofl

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Wed 04/01/09 11:01 PM







Okay.laugh

How about moral support?


psst....wouldn't we have to have morals first????


I have some scruples.bigsmile


What's a scruple? Can I smoke them?


It's having a conscience and principles. Like morals.


Did you seriously think I didn't know what scruples were, you silly.. lmao


I didn't know if it was just a St. Louis thang, ya know?laugh


Well I forgive you then.. flowerforyou

scttrbrain's photo
Wed 04/01/09 11:01 PM

Nope, not an STD.rofl


Does it cause pressure and can we tax it?

Kat

Winx's photo
Wed 04/01/09 11:02 PM


Nope, not an STD.rofl


Does it cause pressure and can we tax it?

Kat


Hmm...tax my conscience and principles. That's a scary thought.


Winx's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:14 AM
Edited by Winx on Thu 04/02/09 08:19 AM
So...this morning I go to the gas station. The man in front of me asks the cashier, "How much are a pack of cigs now?" The cashier said that they haven't received the tax hike yet.


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:16 AM
that is really weird. i haven't heard they went up either. i still can't find the link i had

Winx's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:19 AM

that is really weird. i haven't heard they went up either. i still can't find the link i had


It is confusing. They announced the big day as April 1 and nothing has happened yet.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:22 AM
i am sure there is a tax hike...but i wonder if the date was to be a joke????

Giocamo's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:24 AM
total hypocrisy...on the one hand...the Liberals...are doing everything in their power to snuff out smoking and the tobacco industry...but...on the other hand...they sure love those tax dollars...don't they...

Winx's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:25 AM

total hypocrisy...on the one hand...the Liberals...are doing everything in their power to snuff out smoking and the tobacco industry...but...on the other hand...they sure love those tax dollars...don't they...


Hmm...less people smoking, less children smoking, taxes help pay for health care for uninsured children.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:27 AM
winx...my point again on that is...when less people stop smoking....then less money goes to SCHIP. workers could be laid off due to the decrease. i wish i could find the darn articlesgrumble

Winx's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:39 AM

winx...my point again on that is...when less people stop smoking....then less money goes to SCHIP. workers could be laid off due to the decrease. i wish i could find the darn articlesgrumble


That's okay to me. Less smoking means less sick people. Less sick people means less cost to the health care system.

How can it make workers get laid off? I don't understand.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:44 AM
it was signed by the president in february....found that lol.

if people stop buying the product or it slows....the companies will have to make cut backs. the SCHIP insurance is for children

Winx's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:45 AM

it was signed by the president in february....found that lol.

if people stop buying the product or it slows....the companies will have to make cut backs. the SCHIP insurance is for children


You're talking about the tobacco companies?


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:47 AM


it was signed by the president in february....found that lol.

if people stop buying the product or it slows....the companies will have to make cut backs. the SCHIP insurance is for children


You're talking about the tobacco companies?




as far as lay offs and cut backs??? yes

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:55 AM
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2

here is the SCHIP bill I was looking for

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/02/09 08:58 AM
Texas is looking to raise the age to 19

AUSTIN — Though they are legally considered adults and can serve in the military, 18-year-old Texans would be considered minors when it comes to smoking under a bill passed unanimously by a Senate committee Tuesday.

The measure would increase the legal age for buying tobacco products to 19 and would cut off an estimated $12.5 million in tax revenue for the state over the next two years.

Sen. Carlos Uresti, D-San Antonio, pushed the same measure in 2007. But after winning approval in the Senate, it fizzled out in an end-of-session backlog of bills in the House.

Supporters say raising the legal age would prevent teens from smoking an extra year and keep cigarettes out of high schools, where they can be passed along to younger students.

According to the Department of State Health Services, roughly one-fourth of Texas high school students smoked cigarettes in 2006.



http://www.star-telegram.com/legislature/story/1291038.html

Giocamo's photo
Thu 04/02/09 09:50 AM


total hypocrisy...on the one hand...the Liberals...are doing everything in their power to snuff out smoking and the tobacco industry...but...on the other hand...they sure love those tax dollars...don't they...


Hmm...less people smoking, less children smoking, taxes help pay for health care for uninsured children.


government intervention...total hypocrisy...I thought Liberals were all about choice ?

Winx's photo
Thu 04/02/09 10:35 AM



total hypocrisy...on the one hand...the Liberals...are doing everything in their power to snuff out smoking and the tobacco industry...but...on the other hand...they sure love those tax dollars...don't they...


Hmm...less people smoking, less children smoking, taxes help pay for health care for uninsured children.


government intervention...total hypocrisy...I thought Liberals were all about choice ?


No hypocrisy with me. I see both sides of this issue. I'm saying that there are some positives in all of this.

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