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Topic: Rise of the Satanic Super Soldier..............
think2deep's photo
Sun 03/08/09 08:39 PM

That was our job....
Infantry???


i know. i know it was fanta.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 03/08/09 08:41 PM




This reminds me,
While in the 4th ID, 1/10 INFBN, our First Sgt. thought it would be a morale boost if we, 19 yr olds, pick a secret nick-name to call ourselves. (no one else was to know outside the CO.)

"We chose Widow Makers."

What, do you Floyd types, reckon that choice signifies?
?????


when one's are faced with something larger than themselves, it makes sense to them to view themselves as something worse than the proposed enemy. the name itself signified to each of you something that you didn't want the enemy to be. like 20 or so 19 yr olds holding a 100ft cardboard monster in front of you to bring fear into the enemies heart first before they realized that you were scared too.



NOooo,,

It meant we were going to kill men and make widows of their wives!


that's what i meant when i said that you didn't want your enemies to be that. because if they were, that would mean that they have killed men and made their wives widows.


Normally that's the way it works.
They kill men, we kill more men, hoping we kill more than them.
Kill them all if need be.

think2deep's photo
Sun 03/08/09 08:47 PM





This reminds me,
While in the 4th ID, 1/10 INFBN, our First Sgt. thought it would be a morale boost if we, 19 yr olds, pick a secret nick-name to call ourselves. (no one else was to know outside the CO.)

"We chose Widow Makers."

What, do you Floyd types, reckon that choice signifies?
?????


when one's are faced with something larger than themselves, it makes sense to them to view themselves as something worse than the proposed enemy. the name itself signified to each of you something that you didn't want the enemy to be. like 20 or so 19 yr olds holding a 100ft cardboard monster in front of you to bring fear into the enemies heart first before they realized that you were scared too.



NOooo,,

It meant we were going to kill men and make widows of their wives!


that's what i meant when i said that you didn't want your enemies to be that. because if they were, that would mean that they have killed men and made their wives widows.


Normally that's the way it works.
They kill men, we kill more men, hoping we kill more than them.
Kill them all if need be.


that's a heavy load to carry man. i just want you to know, and i think you do, that i haven't been making fun of you. i just see things sometimes. i wish i could do it for myself. if i can learn how to really truly see me, then i might make it to that next life with a little something more than i have now.

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/09/09 08:19 AM
Blah, what in the blue hell did this thread degenerate into?

If I read one more post where, instead of debunking some piece of info, or when someone doesn't like what they read, they immediately go to "conspiracy theories" I'm going to puke.

There are so many different things I couldn't disagree with more,that i don't even know if i should try.

"No one likes war" I don't know if I agree with that, NeoCon writings before 9/11 pined for wars that lead to occupation, even calling for a "new pearl harbor" as a pretext to fight them.

I see some folks have the idea that you can't be critical of the policies that lead to war, without disrespecting the troops. I disagree. If the soldiers are fighting for my rights, including free speech, then would I not be disrespecting them if I didn't excercise them when I feel like dissenting?

I honestly would like someone to tell me how fighting wars abroad protect our rights anyways? Now if China invaded,I would say that war was about protecting our rights. The revolutionary war was about protecting rights, the civil war was about keeping the union together, but involved protecting our rights. what is it about the Vietnam war, the Korean war or any of these other interventions that protected our rights? I'd postulate that alot of these wars in fact do more to cause this country harm than it has anything else. Blowback is a b!tch.

norslyman's photo
Mon 03/09/09 01:47 PM
Edited by norslyman on Mon 03/09/09 01:50 PM
My point is that THEY (the elite) don't respect our soldiers. There is a long history. The WWI soldiers who marched on DC for their due pay and got quashed. The WWI vaccine victims who contracted Spanish Flu. The agent Orange victims who were denied treatment. The Gulf War Syndrome soldiers who were denied treatment. The deplorable conditions in the VA hospitals.

I would recommend any vets to go to www.beyondtreason.com were you can get a free dvd (for vets only) about the Gulf War Syndrome cover-up.

Here is a story that reminds me of the movie "Jacobs Ladder".
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Vets Sue CIA Over Mind Control Tests

By Noah Shachtman January 07, 2009 | 6:05:29 PMCategories: Bizarro

For two decades or more during the Cold War, the CIA and the military allegedly plied the unwitting with acid, weed, and dozens of psychoactive drugs, in a series of zany (and sometimes dangerous) mind-control experiments. Now, the Vietnam Veterans of America are suing the agency and the Pentagon for perceived abuses suffered under the so-called "MK-ULTRA" and other projects.

Six veterans are suffering from all kinds of ailments tied to this "diabolical and secret testing program," according to a statement from the vets' lawyers, passed on to SpyTalk's Jeff Stein.

The experiments allegedly included "the use of troops to test nerve gas, psychochemicals, and thousands of other toxic chemical or biological substances, and ... the insertion of septal implants in the brains of subjects in ... mind control experiments that went awry, leaving many civilian and military subjects with permanent disabilities." Subjects were tested without their consent, the veterans say. And when the trials were over, the government failed to "provide health care or compensation."



In a book published last year, former military psychiatrist James Ketchum describes an Army project -- separate from the CIA's efforts -- that took place at Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland. There, he saw test subjects "carry on conversations with various invisible people for as long as 2-3 days." Others "salute latrines" and attempt to "revive a gas mask" that they mistake for a woman.

The feds insist that MK-ULTRA ended, when it was exposed during Congressional hearings. But interest in chemical mind-control lives along, in some corners of the military-intelligence community. In a 2003 memo, then-Justice Department lawyer John C. Yoo suggesting that interrogation drugs could be used if their effects were not permanent or profound. Since then, evidence has accumulated that some detainees may have been drugged. "It's coming back," retired Colonel John Alexander told Sharon.
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The military are going to be the first ones to have mandatory bio-chip implants. Too what degree will they be able to modify behavior with a mind implant?

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/09/09 01:54 PM

My point is that THEY (the elite) don't respect our soldiers. There is a long history. The WWI soldiers who marched on DC for their due pay and got quashed. The WWI vaccine victims who contracted Spanish Flu. The agent Orange victims who were denied treatment. The Gulf War Syndrome soldiers who were denied treatment. The deplorable conditions in the VA hospitals.

I would recommend any vets to go to www.beyondtreason.com were you can get a free dvd (for vets only) about the Gulf War Syndrome cover-up.

Here is a story that reminds me of the movie "Jacobs Ladder".
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Vets Sue CIA Over Mind Control Tests

By Noah Shachtman January 07, 2009 | 6:05:29 PMCategories: Bizarro

For two decades or more during the Cold War, the CIA and the military allegedly plied the unwitting with acid, weed, and dozens of psychoactive drugs, in a series of zany (and sometimes dangerous) mind-control experiments. Now, the Vietnam Veterans of America are suing the agency and the Pentagon for perceived abuses suffered under the so-called "MK-ULTRA" and other projects.

Six veterans are suffering from all kinds of ailments tied to this "diabolical and secret testing program," according to a statement from the vets' lawyers, passed on to SpyTalk's Jeff Stein.

The experiments allegedly included "the use of troops to test nerve gas, psychochemicals, and thousands of other toxic chemical or biological substances, and ... the insertion of septal implants in the brains of subjects in ... mind control experiments that went awry, leaving many civilian and military subjects with permanent disabilities." Subjects were tested without their consent, the veterans say. And when the trials were over, the government failed to "provide health care or compensation."



In a book published last year, former military psychiatrist James Ketchum describes an Army project -- separate from the CIA's efforts -- that took place at Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland. There, he saw test subjects "carry on conversations with various invisible people for as long as 2-3 days." Others "salute latrines" and attempt to "revive a gas mask" that they mistake for a woman.

The feds insist that MK-ULTRA ended, when it was exposed during Congressional hearings. But interest in chemical mind-control lives along, in some corners of the military-intelligence community. In a 2003 memo, then-Justice Department lawyer John C. Yoo suggesting that interrogation drugs could be used if their effects were not permanent or profound. Since then, evidence has accumulated that some detainees may have been drugged. "It's coming back," retired Colonel John Alexander told Sharon.
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The military are going to be the first ones to have mandatory bio-chip implants. Too what degree will they be able to modify behavior with a mind implant?



great post.

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Mon 03/09/09 01:56 PM


I honestly would like someone to tell me how fighting wars abroad protect our rights anyways? Now if China invaded,I would say that war was about protecting our rights. The revolutionary war was about protecting rights, the civil war was about keeping the union together, but involved protecting our rights. what is it about the Vietnam war, the Korean war or any of these other interventions that protected our rights? I'd postulate that alot of these wars in fact do more to cause this country harm than it has anything else. Blowback is a b!tch.


What was the result of Vietnam and Korea?

Did we won those or lost them?

We lost in conventional sense, if you think we really wanted to stop the communists. But, what if we wanted to make them to flip out, so that they become ruthless and senseless? Then, we have won both.

Why would we need that? We needed that so that our own socialism seem more like a capitalism to our own people, in comparison with "those communists", that is why.

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