ok im about to give up the dateing seen, im realizing there are just a few catagories most females in oklahoma 25-35 yr range fit in. prove me wrong please!!!! class 1 most common is,they have kids and live on someome elses doller or they dont have a clue in life about haveing a stable job. class 2 have kids and ex drama out the wazoo and drink like fish. class 3 is little rarer but still common, the married but looking group, wtf, how could you marrie and not love the person, unless you were bord and wanted to join in group 1 or 2!! im lost, but is there anyone out there that didnt start a family befor the home? i must have been raised wrong or something, i dont belive in all the drama of exes and haveing kids just out of spite or for a pay check. theres got to be a female with values out there somewere im hopeing.. to the few that do suport them selves and their kids also without help congratulations!! but you all are rare for shure

I HAVE TWO CHILDREN WHOM I'VE TAKEN CARE OF ALL THEIR LIVES BY MYSELF. NO CHILD SUPPORT AND NOONE HELPING ME. OH, I'M FROM OKLAHOMA. THAT ATTITUDE RIGHT THERE IS WHY YOU CAN'T FIND ANYONE DECENT.

I DON'T HAVE VALUES B/C I HAVE TWO CHILDREN AND JUST SO HAPPEN NOT TO BE W/THE FATHER ANYMORE? YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT.

learn how to spell as well.

It's not just Oklahoma - You will find most 25-35 year old's have kids regardless of the state you are in and that's relatively normal.
All women do not have "x" drama but as long as they have kids you can expect the "x" to be a part of the picture to some degree.
Welcome to reality.

I was gonna say the same thing. Learn how to spell. That is a must do here. At least it teaches one to learn.

I was a single mom...same thing...no man...no money from him.
There are many single moms that have no income from the deadbeat dads. Then there are those that do...do what this fella says.

Good luck in your search. Need to be more open and honest next time. This one certainly didn't work for ya. Really...change your approach.

Kat

I know my profile says otherwise, but that was done on a dare. I have two beautiful kids that I have raised since birth completely on my own with out help from the state or their dead beat dads. There may only be a few of us but don't judge every woman just because of a few you know. I don't want any man think I truly want anything other than a relationship from them. I can handle my own and don't want or need a man to think otherwise. I love my kids to much to use them to the degree that you state some moms do. I would never in a million years trade my kids or my life for another.

But then there are men (very few) like me. I am a single dad of 4 kids that hardly ever see their mother. I get NO support from their moms. yes, for some reason I found 2 women in the world that won't have anything to do with their kids. I guess my kids can be thankful that they have a caring dad like myself. I made them! They are my responsibility and I will step up to the plate for them anyday. My kids call me daddy most of the time but they have been known to call me mom too. i love being their mom and dad. Your Kids should come first before any man or (woman in my case). Especially if your kids don't like your partner. It won't work!!!

That made me sad. You have a lovely family. Kudos to you sir.

Kat

Good on ya mcowie!!! A man with principles is a great thing to see:) You will set a great example for your children!

I see where highwayrider's coming from.. a lot of us guys want to start our own family someday, we don't want ready-made families, and we don't want all the drama that comes along with it. And it is really hard to find a decent woman in this state, they all seem to be alcoholics or drug addicts. and I'm sure a lot of woman will reply to this stating "hey smoking crack once a week isn't counted as an addiction!" or whatever their excuses may be.. but hang in there man, you might find that diamond in the rough eventually.