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I remember when that story hit the news. I was curious because I liked some of the shows Fox starred in. After doing some research, I acquired the actual audio of Rush talking about Michael J. Fox. Rush wondered out loud if Michael J. Fox was acting like his condition was worse than it really is, since Fox seemed to have much better motor control in a different interview a few days earlier. Later it was discovered that Michael J. Fox stopped using his medication shortly before the show in question, which caused his symptoms to look worse than a few days before. This entire bit was not even an accusatory attack on Fox, instead it was part of a discussion about the media. Unfortunately, once a false story comes out, it is difficult to bring the truth to light. Besides which Fox is a white male, so this would not be example of prejudice even if it were true. Prejudice covers all kinds, prejudice against the disabled is one of the worst kind in this country. To question a person who has a terrible disease like Parkinsons and accuse them of acting out their symptoms is just like all the faux conservatives stating the welfare recipient is a lazy and deserves to be discriminated against because of their status. There is no difference. It is ugly. Speaking of ugly prejudice.......  Isn't the pot calling the kettle black here??? Thankfully you are educated because I would thing using complete sentences would be a waste otherwise.... You sure seem to have your share of them like the rest of us... Just my observation IMAO....  I actually have a bad bad habit of doing run on sentences but I don't claim to be an english major or an editor so I get to write how I want to and you get to have something to complain about huh? Nice!  I even spell right most of the time, gotta give it to me!!!!   
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Rush aside, which is definitely where he belongs slung aside like the trash, Obama is doing a good job considering what he is up against. He is trying to assign different people to his cabinet that have a variety of views. He even tried to get a republican in and the republican could not be bipartisan enough to accept, sad. The experts who have studied the last depression have told him to do these things to help stop the downfall. He is listening and trying to the best of his ability to do it and he is trying to get the republicans on board which is one of his many promises that he is keeping. The republican initially accepted, and even agreed to be supportive of a stimulus bill he did not like. Then Obama undercut his own appointee by moving authority over several key projects, so that the newly appointed cabinet member would be just a figure head. Obama's ultra left wing agenda is delaying the economic recovery, as was expected when he was elected. About the only good thing Obama has done, is to take extreme partisan positions, while actively trying to discourage broad bipartisanship. Is that what Rush said???  I guess you are not watching the same Obama that I am.  Is there an imposter out there?
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Rush aside, which is definitely where he belongs slung aside like the trash, Obama is doing a good job considering what he is up against. He is trying to assign different people to his cabinet that have a variety of views. He even tried to get a republican in and the republican could not be bipartisan enough to accept, sad. The experts who have studied the last depression have told him to do these things to help stop the downfall. He is listening and trying to the best of his ability to do it and he is trying to get the republicans on board which is one of his many promises that he is keeping. The republican initially accepted, and even agreed to be supportive of a stimulus bill he did not like. Then Obama undercut his own appointee by moving authority over several key projects, so that the newly appointed cabinet member would be just a figure head. Obama's ultra left wing agenda is delaying the economic recovery, as was expected when he was elected. About the only good thing Obama has done, is to take extreme partisan positions, while actively trying to discourage broad bipartisanship. Is that what Rush said??? I guess you are not watching the same Obama that I am. Is there an imposter out there? No, that's a fact. The census is one of the largest responsibilities of the commerce department. By moving it under the control of the white house, the executive branch determines the amount of speculation involved in the final tally. The Commerce Secretary appointee is a conservative that believes in little speculation across the board - the final count should be very close to the actual count. On the other hand, Obama and liberals are very supportive of heavy speculation in urban and rural areas - those that tend to vote democrat and be poor. by speculating more people are in those poor areas, more money and representatives may be apportioned there. THAT is the problem. Especially in areas like LA because they use other economic factors to "determine" the speculation - therefore, people that are not even in this country legally will even be counted to an extent. |
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I am not sure what Rush has said about the Obama stimulus package.
However, I have studied economics, and his spending program is not going to help the economy, and it will have some negative effects. So far I am guessing that Obama has only delayed the economic recovery by a few months, but he has only been in office a few weeks, so he still has plenty of time to make things much much worse. I must admit that I am surprised how many corrupt people Obama has already nominated. I did not expect that he would go forward with nominations of people who were found to have committed tax fraud during the vetting process. Overall we are getting what I expected to get from Obama, so I guess you could say that he is successfully advancing a harmful leftist agenda. |
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OK missy...i don't think anyone here is drooling over the guy as it is lol  Just showing his racist side. pfft... i don't think anyone is surprised at him lol he's like jerry springer (still want my jerry beads) and howard stern. it gets ratings. but how many take him seriously??? or just listen to see what he says next step away from the keyboward before it sucks you in  I don't want to be sucked in.  Seriously, Rose, some people do think that what he says is the gospel truth. That truly troubles me. and people believed the nut and went to jonestown...there are always people that follow but (at least in texas) most think rush is just an entertainer i love this guy lol Take a drive through the boonies of Missouri or parts of Kentucky. There are many that think that he speaks the truth.  i'm sure those people were already like that or well on there way Hmmm...you make an interesting point there. He sure is confirming their beliefs then. |
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Clearly I should believe a random blogger who has not even bothered to post Rush actually saying the words, let alone the context of whatever he said. I can understand not having audio of something Rush might have said in 1970, but why can't they produce audio in context of something he said in the past few years? It was recently. He was talking about Iraq. |
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Rush aside, which is definitely where he belongs slung aside like the trash, Obama is doing a good job considering what he is up against. He is trying to assign different people to his cabinet that have a variety of views. He even tried to get a republican in and the republican could not be bipartisan enough to accept, sad. The experts who have studied the last depression have told him to do these things to help stop the downfall. He is listening and trying to the best of his ability to do it and he is trying to get the republicans on board which is one of his many promises that he is keeping. The republican initially accepted, and even agreed to be supportive of a stimulus bill he did not like. Then Obama undercut his own appointee by moving authority over several key projects, so that the newly appointed cabinet member would be just a figure head. Obama's ultra left wing agenda is delaying the economic recovery, as was expected when he was elected. About the only good thing Obama has done, is to take extreme partisan positions, while actively trying to discourage broad bipartisanship. Is that what Rush said??? I guess you are not watching the same Obama that I am. Is there an imposter out there? No, that's a fact. The census is one of the largest responsibilities of the commerce department. By moving it under the control of the white house, the executive branch determines the amount of speculation involved in the final tally. The Commerce Secretary appointee is a conservative that believes in little speculation across the board - the final count should be very close to the actual count. On the other hand, Obama and liberals are very supportive of heavy speculation in urban and rural areas - those that tend to vote democrat and be poor. by speculating more people are in those poor areas, more money and representatives may be apportioned there. THAT is the problem. Especially in areas like LA because they use other economic factors to "determine" the speculation - therefore, people that are not even in this country legally will even be counted to an extent. Do you realize how speculative the census has always been? Have you ever been visited by a census taker? I have once and should have been at least twice with my age. I have been speculated at least once and it was the most recent ones. This is just another thing to make into a big thing by the "enemies" of the sitting administration that is all. Ridiculous "fears" to instill in the masses to try to regain control is all. The republican agenda is all fearmongering that is the only way they know to sway people into their fold. If they stood on a solid agenda they would not have to scare the Americans into believing in them. |
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Clearly I should believe a random blogger who has not even bothered to post Rush actually saying the words, let alone the context of whatever he said. I can understand not having audio of something Rush might have said in 1970, but why can't they produce audio in context of something he said in the past few years? It was recently. He was talking about Iraq. In that case, it is even more suspicious that they could not get audio of what Rush said, in context. If he could provide the day and hour, I could probably find someone to email the MP3 file with Rush's actual words, but what is the point when every time I do the research about some scandal, the accusations turn out to be false. |
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Clearly I should believe a random blogger who has not even bothered to post Rush actually saying the words, let alone the context of whatever he said. I can understand not having audio of something Rush might have said in 1970, but why can't they produce audio in context of something he said in the past few years? It was recently. He was talking about Iraq. In that case, it is even more suspicious that they could not get audio of what Rush said, in context. If he could provide the day and hour, I could probably find someone to email the MP3 file with Rush's actual words, but what is the point when every time I do the research about some scandal, the accusations turn out to be false. Did you not listen to the audio? It was there. |
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I am not sure what Rush has said about the Obama stimulus package. However, I have studied economics, and his spending program is not going to help the economy, and it will have some negative effects. So far I am guessing that Obama has only delayed the economic recovery by a few months, but he has only been in office a few weeks, so he still has plenty of time to make things much much worse. I must admit that I am surprised how many corrupt people Obama has already nominated. I did not expect that he would go forward with nominations of people who were found to have committed tax fraud during the vetting process. Overall we are getting what I expected to get from Obama, so I guess you could say that he is successfully advancing a harmful leftist agenda. We just came from corrupt, 8 years of it, so to try to pass this off as corrupt you will have to try harder. Bush showed the American people what one sided corruption can do to this country. Also what fearmongering can do. If you make the masses fear something bad enough you can get them to agree to go to an illegal war, agree to tax cuts for the elite, turn America into a savage nation that tortures and violates it's citizen's civil rights illegally. Yea, tell us about corruption but make sure you point it at the right people. |
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Clearly I should believe a random blogger who has not even bothered to post Rush actually saying the words, let alone the context of whatever he said. I can understand not having audio of something Rush might have said in 1970, but why can't they produce audio in context of something he said in the past few years? It was recently. He was talking about Iraq. In that case, it is even more suspicious that they could not get audio of what Rush said, in context. If he could provide the day and hour, I could probably find someone to email the MP3 file with Rush's actual words, but what is the point when every time I do the research about some scandal, the accusations turn out to be false. Did you not listen to the audio? It was there. Rush accuses the democrats of being racist (or making decisions to hold onto the black vote) and you say Rush is a racist? He said nothing racist, they just cut a clip and made obviously false accusations against Rush. This is a really pitiful attack against Rush. But I guess if you can not find a logical flaw in his opinions, false accusations of racism is all that is available to attack him. I am beginning to think that I will have to come up with a list of mistakes Rush has made, since you seem to be determined to prove that every accusation against Rush is false. |
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Clearly I should believe a random blogger who has not even bothered to post Rush actually saying the words, let alone the context of whatever he said. I can understand not having audio of something Rush might have said in 1970, but why can't they produce audio in context of something he said in the past few years? It was recently. He was talking about Iraq. In that case, it is even more suspicious that they could not get audio of what Rush said, in context. If he could provide the day and hour, I could probably find someone to email the MP3 file with Rush's actual words, but what is the point when every time I do the research about some scandal, the accusations turn out to be false. Did you not listen to the audio? It was there. Rush accuses the democrats of being racist (or making decisions to hold onto the black vote) and you say Rush is a racist? He said nothing racist, they just cut a clip and made obviously false accusations against Rush. This is a really pitiful attack against Rush. But I guess if you can not find a logical flaw in his opinions, false accusations of racism is all that is available to attack him. I am beginning to think that I will have to come up with a list of mistakes Rush has made, since you seem to be determined to prove that every accusation against Rush is false. There are more than the obvious name calling type of racism. Most of the racists of this country today hide behind the political stances of entitlement, illegal alien reform, anti Affirmative Action movement, law reforms, pro death penalty, etc..... They have changed in the sheets for business suits and the crosses for politics. You have to be able to see past these surface issues to understand the base meaning. Sometimes innocents get duped into this agenda. But sometimes the individual already has racist tendencies and just fits right in. Rush furthers this agenda by his hate that he spews in the name of politics but the end result is still the same. |
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Rush aside, which is definitely where he belongs slung aside like the trash, Obama is doing a good job considering what he is up against. He is trying to assign different people to his cabinet that have a variety of views. He even tried to get a republican in and the republican could not be bipartisan enough to accept, sad. The experts who have studied the last depression have told him to do these things to help stop the downfall. He is listening and trying to the best of his ability to do it and he is trying to get the republicans on board which is one of his many promises that he is keeping. The republican initially accepted, and even agreed to be supportive of a stimulus bill he did not like. Then Obama undercut his own appointee by moving authority over several key projects, so that the newly appointed cabinet member would be just a figure head. Obama's ultra left wing agenda is delaying the economic recovery, as was expected when he was elected. About the only good thing Obama has done, is to take extreme partisan positions, while actively trying to discourage broad bipartisanship. Is that what Rush said??? I guess you are not watching the same Obama that I am. Is there an imposter out there? No, that's a fact. The census is one of the largest responsibilities of the commerce department. By moving it under the control of the white house, the executive branch determines the amount of speculation involved in the final tally. The Commerce Secretary appointee is a conservative that believes in little speculation across the board - the final count should be very close to the actual count. On the other hand, Obama and liberals are very supportive of heavy speculation in urban and rural areas - those that tend to vote democrat and be poor. by speculating more people are in those poor areas, more money and representatives may be apportioned there. THAT is the problem. Especially in areas like LA because they use other economic factors to "determine" the speculation - therefore, people that are not even in this country legally will even be counted to an extent. Do you realize how speculative the census has always been? Have you ever been visited by a census taker? I have once and should have been at least twice with my age. I have been speculated at least once and it was the most recent ones. This is just another thing to make into a big thing by the "enemies" of the sitting administration that is all. Ridiculous "fears" to instill in the masses to try to regain control is all. The republican agenda is all fearmongering that is the only way they know to sway people into their fold. If they stood on a solid agenda they would not have to scare the Americans into believing in them. Because obama totally didn't use the fearmongering approach in order to scare people into the stimulus. he's been all doom and gloom prepping the bar so low that any small rise will like money from the sky and any failure will look that less terrible. Speculation is needed - the issue is in how speculative it is. Obama is going to ramp up the speculation in the areas he deems necessary. I can guarantee that. |
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Edited by
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I am not sure what Rush has said about the Obama stimulus package. However, I have studied economics, and his spending program is not going to help the economy, and it will have some negative effects. So far I am guessing that Obama has only delayed the economic recovery by a few months, but he has only been in office a few weeks, so he still has plenty of time to make things much much worse. I must admit that I am surprised how many corrupt people Obama has already nominated. I did not expect that he would go forward with nominations of people who were found to have committed tax fraud during the vetting process. Overall we are getting what I expected to get from Obama, so I guess you could say that he is successfully advancing a harmful leftist agenda. We just came from corrupt, 8 years of it, so to try to pass this off as corrupt you will have to try harder. Bush showed the American people what one sided corruption can do to this country. Also what fearmongering can do. If you make the masses fear something bad enough you can get them to agree to go to an illegal war, agree to tax cuts for the elite, turn America into a savage nation that tortures and violates it's citizen's civil rights illegally. Yea, tell us about corruption but make sure you point it at the right people. where have you been? "Democracy's become a tattered vision of truth the corporate sponsorship raping and ruining the land do you think what you say will make it any better it's been this way 200 years it'll stay this way forever." politics is politics. like i said before: here's to change. just like the last change, just like the next. |
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Wow! Getting heated in here! Name calling and such. Yeah that's gonna do about as much as griping about the President! You don't go in the political threads much, do you? 
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Rush aside, which is definitely where he belongs slung aside like the trash, Obama is doing a good job considering what he is up against. He is trying to assign different people to his cabinet that have a variety of views. He even tried to get a republican in and the republican could not be bipartisan enough to accept, sad. The experts who have studied the last depression have told him to do these things to help stop the downfall. He is listening and trying to the best of his ability to do it and he is trying to get the republicans on board which is one of his many promises that he is keeping. The republican initially accepted, and even agreed to be supportive of a stimulus bill he did not like. Then Obama undercut his own appointee by moving authority over several key projects, so that the newly appointed cabinet member would be just a figure head. Obama's ultra left wing agenda is delaying the economic recovery, as was expected when he was elected. About the only good thing Obama has done, is to take extreme partisan positions, while actively trying to discourage broad bipartisanship. Is that what Rush said??? I guess you are not watching the same Obama that I am. Is there an imposter out there? No, that's a fact. The census is one of the largest responsibilities of the commerce department. By moving it under the control of the white house, the executive branch determines the amount of speculation involved in the final tally. The Commerce Secretary appointee is a conservative that believes in little speculation across the board - the final count should be very close to the actual count. On the other hand, Obama and liberals are very supportive of heavy speculation in urban and rural areas - those that tend to vote democrat and be poor. by speculating more people are in those poor areas, more money and representatives may be apportioned there. THAT is the problem. Especially in areas like LA because they use other economic factors to "determine" the speculation - therefore, people that are not even in this country legally will even be counted to an extent. Do you realize how speculative the census has always been? Have you ever been visited by a census taker? I have once and should have been at least twice with my age. I have been speculated at least once and it was the most recent ones. This is just another thing to make into a big thing by the "enemies" of the sitting administration that is all. Ridiculous "fears" to instill in the masses to try to regain control is all. The republican agenda is all fearmongering that is the only way they know to sway people into their fold. If they stood on a solid agenda they would not have to scare the Americans into believing in them. Because obama totally didn't use the fearmongering approach in order to scare people into the stimulus. he's been all doom and gloom prepping the bar so low that any small rise will like money from the sky and any failure will look that less terrible. Speculation is needed - the issue is in how speculative it is. Obama is going to ramp up the speculation in the areas he deems necessary. I can guarantee that. He hasn't been doom and gloom, he has been realistic. Unlike Bush and his cronies claiming we were not in a recession and it was the Liberals trying to lead us down the merry path. Obama is trying to tell us that we are in for some hard times. It is a fricken world recession man, how can you spin that without it sounding bad? I know, like the republicans that said it did not exist, we were delusional, that is how. Obama does not want us to believe that we are not going to have hard times. It is an honest approach. As for the census, it is a fearmongering technique to try to scare people into believing he is manipulating something for the advantage of whatever they make up. Speculation is used in this process and with the cost of the census it should probably be speculated more this time for the budget. |
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Wow! Getting heated in here! Name calling and such. Yeah that's gonna do about as much as griping about the President! You don't go in the political threads much, do you? I haven't seen any name calling??? Did I miss somthing? |
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Rush is not as stupid as you portray him. Unfortunately Obama so far has been nothing but hollow promises and Rush makes valid points for as much of a choad as he is. The issue I have is your approach. For a person of education you just shot maturity down the toilet with a spuzooka (look up Potato gun if you do not know what a spudzooka is). Draconain to draconian, if you enter a debate do try to do so from a position of clear reason rather than attitude. Why not illustrate some of the arguments Rush is screwing up on rather than just calling him a choad. Even Fanta46 has posted legitimate gripes even though he does tend to get a tad PA on us all. I have seen and responded to other posts of yours before and in a debate of any real nature you would discredit yourself after the first two sentences. Please do not mistake passion for childishness. I can clearly see my passion would consume you wholly if I was not careful. You are not a bad person, just poorly spoken on these forums at times...  You're upset that someone doesn't like Rush and you don't want someone to call him a choad, but then you go and call Obama a choad and it's fine? Sorry, that just made me laugh. |
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Rush aside, which is definitely where he belongs slung aside like the trash, Obama is doing a good job considering what he is up against. He is trying to assign different people to his cabinet that have a variety of views. He even tried to get a republican in and the republican could not be bipartisan enough to accept, sad. The experts who have studied the last depression have told him to do these things to help stop the downfall. He is listening and trying to the best of his ability to do it and he is trying to get the republicans on board which is one of his many promises that he is keeping. The republican initially accepted, and even agreed to be supportive of a stimulus bill he did not like. Then Obama undercut his own appointee by moving authority over several key projects, so that the newly appointed cabinet member would be just a figure head. Obama's ultra left wing agenda is delaying the economic recovery, as was expected when he was elected. About the only good thing Obama has done, is to take extreme partisan positions, while actively trying to discourage broad bipartisanship. Is that what Rush said??? I guess you are not watching the same Obama that I am. Is there an imposter out there? No, that's a fact. The census is one of the largest responsibilities of the commerce department. By moving it under the control of the white house, the executive branch determines the amount of speculation involved in the final tally. The Commerce Secretary appointee is a conservative that believes in little speculation across the board - the final count should be very close to the actual count. On the other hand, Obama and liberals are very supportive of heavy speculation in urban and rural areas - those that tend to vote democrat and be poor. by speculating more people are in those poor areas, more money and representatives may be apportioned there. THAT is the problem. Especially in areas like LA because they use other economic factors to "determine" the speculation - therefore, people that are not even in this country legally will even be counted to an extent. Do you realize how speculative the census has always been? Have you ever been visited by a census taker? I have once and should have been at least twice with my age. I have been speculated at least once and it was the most recent ones. This is just another thing to make into a big thing by the "enemies" of the sitting administration that is all. Ridiculous "fears" to instill in the masses to try to regain control is all. The republican agenda is all fearmongering that is the only way they know to sway people into their fold. If they stood on a solid agenda they would not have to scare the Americans into believing in them. Because obama totally didn't use the fearmongering approach in order to scare people into the stimulus. he's been all doom and gloom prepping the bar so low that any small rise will like money from the sky and any failure will look that less terrible. Speculation is needed - the issue is in how speculative it is. Obama is going to ramp up the speculation in the areas he deems necessary. I can guarantee that. He hasn't been doom and gloom, he has been realistic. Unlike Bush and his cronies claiming we were not in a recession and it was the Liberals trying to lead us down the merry path. Obama is trying to tell us that we are in for some hard times. It is a fricken world recession man, how can you spin that without it sounding bad? I know, like the republicans that said it did not exist, we were delusional, that is how. Obama does not want us to believe that we are not going to have hard times. It is an honest approach. As for the census, it is a fearmongering technique to try to scare people into believing he is manipulating something for the advantage of whatever they make up. Speculation is used in this process and with the cost of the census it should probably be speculated more this time for the budget. are you kidding me? why all of a sudden the turnaround? now we're going to pay down the deficit and all this amazing stuff. Last week, we were going to fall into hell before coming back up. He's playing you and everyone else. The market is just as about confidence as anything. If he had sat there and said we're going to pull through and all that crap before you can maintain or improve confidence and that'll help the economy along. Now, that's exactly what he's doing after his spending package passed. It's never honesty. He's a Politician. he wouldn't know honestly if it bit him in the ass. and why the hell should the cost of the census be reason for more speculation? EDIT and in fact, bush and co were completely correct. we were not officially in a recession because it's not defined until after the fact. while there's been a decline for a year, we've only been in a recession for 2 quarters now and the first didn't fall more than a fraction of a percent. |
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Rush is not as stupid as you portray him. Unfortunately Obama so far has been nothing but hollow promises and Rush makes valid points for as much of a choad as he is. The issue I have is your approach. For a person of education you just shot maturity down the toilet with a spuzooka (look up Potato gun if you do not know what a spudzooka is). Draconain to draconian, if you enter a debate do try to do so from a position of clear reason rather than attitude. Why not illustrate some of the arguments Rush is screwing up on rather than just calling him a choad. Even Fanta46 has posted legitimate gripes even though he does tend to get a tad PA on us all. I have seen and responded to other posts of yours before and in a debate of any real nature you would discredit yourself after the first two sentences. Please do not mistake passion for childishness. I can clearly see my passion would consume you wholly if I was not careful. You are not a bad person, just poorly spoken on these forums at times... Was that an educated evalution of someone you don't even know???  Thank you for the attempt and for the laughs. Rush is an imbecile of the greatness magnitude dude, his ideals are not worth the effort given to write about this right now.  Rush's ideals are: Liberty Freedom Constitutional limits to government power Human life is sacred A patriotic love for the USA and her soldiers. Rush might not be right on all the policy positions, but I do share his ideals. It is a shame that more people do not share those same ideals, the world would be a much better place. No way. Replace with racist, male chauvinist, hypocrite, and more. I think he makes Republicans look bad. He's all about spreading hate and prejudice. I am still waiting for one example of hate or prejudice taken in context. I don't know Rush, I can't speak to what he believes, but if he was guilty of any of your accusations, that guilt would be verified by many news outlets. Instead we see accusations without evidence. Are you really saying rush doesn't spread hate? Really? |
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