I love it when Liberals fall back on "its for the children."


Please...

Stop patronizing me.

A: I am draconian. I really don't have a soft side.

If you can't afford to have children DON'T. people in general have to stop putting one person's responsibility or lack there of on another person. Illegal Immigrants' children or not do not deserve anything this country has to offer unless they get legalized. I may seem heartless but we need to take care of our own BEFORE we take care of others! Our country can't afford free health care for the starving poor masses from other countries. Thanks to them I can't get any heath care assistance of my own. Get over yourselves!

B: Politically I am a middle of the road who believes anything the country does should affect America globally and not favor any minority group culture or whatever! Liberals want to give it all away. Conservatives want us to go to church every Sunday. Both sides suck cucumber seeds which means both are a success at suck seeding!

C: I am not jealous! I AM INCENSED! Big difference!

D: I have a college education but I really have to question some of the poster's education levels here. So much elitist "if you are not one of us you are UnAmerican" crap going on. That is high school Bullsh*t. Grow up. Your Liberal passive Aggressive BS is stinking up a good debate. Folks like you set the Bill of Rights back before America was a Glimmer in the eye of the Founding Fathers. I have to put up with your opinions but I do not have to agree with them and at least I am not playing by the childish "Niener, niener, niener," rules.

E: Nobody has to agree on squat. At least we all agree there is a problem but it seems there are people who feel they have the money to give away. Tell ya what... Why not send some of that money to the AndyBgood Hunger relief fund! I could really use the help.
I never got my $600 Bush Stimulus. Think I have any love for him?

F: I do not receive any assistance of any kind and am struggling to keep a roof over my head but at least I am pulling my own weight. Why is it if I need the help why I can't get it?

Racial reasons, I don't have kids, my age, I am self employed, and a host of other reasons. So do you think I like being in the poverty zone? If you answered yes to that question you ARE as stupid as you look! Think I like the idea that I am having to pull the weight of those irresponsible enough to pull their own weight? Think I like giving money to drug addicts? I have heard it all! The system is not helping me so I have to help myself. Why can't others???


So how do you like me now???????

Am I a mean and bad person?

Here is my reply to that....

I weep little tears for you but the tiny violin is in the shop getting new strings. I wore them out...

Thankfully some of us out there can disagree with more than snitty one liners. At least Fanta46 and Lynann have content to their reasoning and they make for healthy debate. I may disagree with them wholly but at least they have heart many people don't have and DO approach this issue with education and facts even for a questionable as they are. Says more about them to me than many other posters. I can at least respect them although I disagree with them. I do got to say though that Fanta46 does come off as a screaming liberal sometimes and some of your comments are a little debasing and quite elitist in themselves but at least there is content behind the argument! Between the two I give Lynann props in all regards because she has come off with the most intelligent debate so far and I have not gotten the same "us or them" arguments with her! For Fanta46, You are five years older than me but evidently you did not grow up in a rough neighborhood otherwise you would be more hesitant to have such a condescending tone in your arguments. I see validity in what you say but some of what comes off of your keyboard wrecks your arguments like Ted Kennedy wrecked his car in Chappaquid****. if you toned it down on the "If you don't agree with us" thing you actually would sound a LOT more credible!

Yes things are messed up but I am sick of depending on others to fix the mess! I am sick of the Three Stooges Logic Obama is approaching this with. I am horrified by his cabinet choices considering ALL but a couple of them have criminal back grounds!
So Obama is the fix all?

Yeah, sure....

On the subject of Rush, no offense intended here but, he caters to the audience that is like himself, low educated, easily lead astray, an audience that has frustration issues and chooses to take them out on others as an unhealthy outlet, borderline or all the way over the line racists, psuedo conservatism, etc....

He has no education, he is spouting hatred in almost every breath, he is a perfect example of the type of American the real Americans are ashamed of. He is nothing but a blow hard with nothing constructive to offer to the whole situation.

As I read through this I realized I was reading an unruly child having a temper tantrum and trying to sound like daddy while doing it. I guess I have to say it has conviction but definitely needs some maturity and world vision savvy.

My opinion here of course.

On the subject of Rush, no offense intended here but, he caters to the audience that is like himself, low educated, easily lead astray, an audience that has frustration issues and chooses to take them out on others as an unhealthy outlet, borderline or all the way over the line racists, psuedo conservatism, etc....

He has no education, he is spouting hatred in almost every breath, he is a perfect example of the type of American the real Americans are ashamed of. He is nothing but a blow hard with nothing constructive to offer to the whole situation.

Coming from a man of another scale, and yes I am a fire breather myself... I do not like Rush Limbaugh but your claims of him catering to an uneducated mass is one of the most ignorant and poorly executed statements I have seen yet come from you...
Shall I even begin to list the number of fallacies you committed in this argument?

Rush like many other talking heads is a sensationalist but a lot of people I know who are into him are HIGHLY educated and I know two PhDs who like him a lot. Do you even have a Bachelor of arts or a bachelor of Science degree under your belt?

Why not lend an ear to Jessie Jackson some time or better yet Lewis Farrakhan? Honestly, I thought you were above this kind of trash resorting to the whole "People who like Rush are stupid thing."

Now what am I supposed to think about you????

That was even weaker! Nice try but your social lack of grace is showing. Need a hug?

According to third party studies, Rush's audience is more knowledgeable about the US government than most media audiences including people who read the New York Times. The study asked people about who were various cabinet people, what the constitution says, and what are the policy positions various politicians.

Also, Rush has never said anything racist on his radio show. Perhaps you should double check the reliability of your sources.

As far as a lack of college education, Bill Gates also dropped out, and I know many people with great expertise who never went to college.

There are plenty of reasons to disagree with Rush's political positions, but the lies that are constantly told about him, by the leftist media are sad, and a sign of intellectual inability to dispute his claims.

Rush is a waste of radio time. And if the people who listen to him think they know about the government especially from his perspective they are misled. I don't know anything about liberal media, I know from listening myself. He is racist. It is not obvious but if you really listen it is there.

Rush is a waste of radio time. And if the people who listen to him think they know about the government especially from his perspective they are misled. I don't know anything about liberal media, I know from listening myself. He is racist. It is not obvious but if you really listen it is there.

Rush is not as stupid as you portray him. Unfortunately Obama so far has been nothing but hollow promises and Rush makes valid points for as much of a choad as he is. The issue I have is your approach. For a person of education you just shot maturity down the toilet with a spuzooka (look up Potato gun if you do not know what a spudzooka is).
Draconain to draconian, if you enter a debate do try to do so from a position of clear reason rather than attitude. Why not illustrate some of the arguments Rush is screwing up on rather than just calling him a choad. Even Fanta46 has posted legitimate gripes even though he does tend to get a tad PA on us all.
I have seen and responded to other posts of yours before and in a debate of any real nature you would discredit yourself after the first two sentences.

Please do not mistake passion for childishness. I can clearly see my passion would consume you wholly if I was not careful. You are not a bad person, just poorly spoken on these forums at times...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon_of_The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show Nice guy.

I forgot that all conservatives are racist because they disagree with liberals about taxes, social welfare, global warming, and abortion.

And it wasn't the audience making the claim, it was an independent group who has tracked that information about the media for years, and only recently added Rush to the list of shows they track.

dragoness..you do that all the time. you seem to think you can read minds and hearts (you think you know me and you are far from it)

anyone that disagrees with you...you call a hate monger or war monger.