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Topic: for you avid bush supporters
AndrewAV's photo
Tue 02/10/09 10:09 PM
Edited by AndrewAV on Tue 02/10/09 10:12 PM


If you ask me keeping our country from being attacked again is a big accomplishment. Tho you cant say President Bush did that by himself nore can you blame the state of our country solely on him we do have a thing called congress you know tell me what they have done?

Oh and I am makeing about $30,000/year more than I was 8 years ago so what ever President Bush and congress did really didnt have an affect on me.


cool 30 gs a year more...in what employment sector if you dont mind my asking???...how much of that 30 gs was ate up by overly inflated inflation???....everyone has been effected somehow..im glad you feel it effected you for the better...or not at all as you state...


Actually inflation has been pretty well maintained.



And I know people say he kept the country safe, but you can't quantify that. it's like this stimulus crap "creating or saving 4,000,000 jobs." You may (and that's a big may) be able to track those created but there is no way in hell you can say how many were saved. Just like with W, there's no way to tell how many attacks would have happened if he hadn't stepped up. there is also the possibility his action responding to 9/11 actually provoked more attacks.

That's the problem with walking a path and choosing when you come to a fork. you never really know what the other road would have led you to. you can speculate but you will never truly know.

stonekeeper's photo
Wed 02/11/09 07:31 AM
Edited by stonekeeper on Wed 02/11/09 07:32 AM

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L01675883.htm

Bush killed or co-ordinated with other nations to kill or capture a lot of al Qaeda leaders and al Qaeda sympathizers.
Try a google search for major al Qaeda leaders killed by Bush. It's a never ending list......

Here is the short list -

FACTBOX-Major al Qaeda leaders killed or captured
01 May 2008 10:16:24 GMT

Source: Reuters

May 1 (Reuters) - U.S. war planes killed Aden Hashi Ayro, an Islamist commander thought to be al Qaeda's top man in Somalia, on Thursday. Below is a list of major al Qaeda figures killed or captured since 2001:

AFGHANISTAN:

* Mohammed Atef, one of the top leaders of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, was killed in a U.S. air strike in Afghanistan in November 2001.

* Abu Laith al-Libi, one of Osama bin Laden's top lieutenants who commanded militant forces in Afghanistan, was killed in February 2008 in a suspected U.S. missile strike that also killed up to 13 foreign militants.

IRAQ:

* Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda's leader in Iraq, was killed in a U.S. air raid in June 2006.

* U.S. forces killed Muhammed Abdullah Abbas al-Issawi, described as a security emir for al Qaeda in Iraq, in April 2007.

* The U.S. military killed Muharib Abdul Latif al-Jubouri, an al-Qaeda figure accused of involvement in the kidnapping of American journalist Jill Carroll, in May 2007.

* Police killed Mohammed Yahya al-Rahmani, known as Abu Mussab, and three foreign militants near Samarra in Feb 2008.

* In April 2008 Iraqi authorities captured Nazal Sabar al-Jughaify, also known as Abu al-Jarrah, a senior lieutenant to al Qaeda's leader in Iraq, Abu Ayyub al-Masri.

PAKISTAN:

* Saudi-born Palestinian Abu Zubaydah was arrested after a shootout in the central Pakistani city of Faisalabad in March 2002. Zubaydah was operations director for al Qaeda and the first high-ranking member to be arrested.

* Ramzi Binalshibh, a Yemeni national and one-time roommate of Mohamed Atta, suspected ringleader of the Sept. 11 hijackers, was captured in Karachi in September 2002.

* Security forces arrested Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, al Qaeda's number three and alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, in a raid in Rawalpindi, near Islamabad, in March 2003.

* Musaad Aruchi, a nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed with a $1 million bounty on his head, was arrested in Karachi in June 2004.

* Tanzanian Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani was arrested in the city of Gujrat in July 2004.

* Pakistani intelligence agencies and security forces arrested Abu Faraj Farj al-Liby, mastermind of two failed attempts on President Pervez Musharraf's life, in May 2005.

* Abu Hamza Rabia, an al Qaeda commander ranked the third most senior leader in the network, was killed in a tribal region of Pakistan bordering Afghanistan in December 2005.

* Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah (also known as Abdul Rehman), an Egyptian al Qaeda member wanted for involvement in the 1998 bombing of the U.S. embassy in Kenya, was killed by Pakistani forces close to the Afghan border in April 2006

SAUDI ARABIA:

* Youssef al-Eiery, the leading al Qaeda militant in Saudi Arabia who was believed to be behind the May 2003 suicide bombings in Riyadh which killed at least 35 people, was shot dead by Saudi police shortly after the attacks.

Several of Eiery's successors, including Khaled Ali Haj, Abdulaziz al-Muqrin and Saleh al-Awfi, were killed by Saudi security forces over the next two years.

SOMALIA:

* A U.S. air strike on Thursday killed Aden Hashi Ayro, who led al Shabaab militants blamed for attacks on government troops and their Ethiopian allies.

YEMEN:

* Yemeni security forces shot dead Yasser al-Homeiqani, an al Qaeda fugitive, in southern Yemen in January 2007.


Bush killed them or locked them away at Guantanamo. Al qaeda flocked to Iraq where they were decimated. Talk about killing two birds with one stone.......Saddam and Al qaeda.





do yall remember those decks of playing cards with pics of the enemy on them??? werent they just precious???....


taking the number 9 spot


9. high body count.

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Wed 02/11/09 07:45 AM
do yall remember those decks of playing cards with pics of the enemy on them??? werent they just precious???....


taking the number 9 spot


9. high body count.
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In all fairness high body count is not representative of the destruction of Al Qaeda. While it is true that more Al Qaeda join everyday the DEAD will no longer lead. What people don't realize when they point to that as a failure, that even here in the US when criminals are captured and prosecuted, there will always be more criminals to take their place.

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Wed 02/11/09 10:18 AM
tell me how obamas socialist porkulous packages will do any better. the liberals are driving this country into a more government dependent society. and national healthcare will only cripple the healthcare system. the doctors wont get paid as well so they will close shop. yay free healthcare. you liberal idiots wantwed this socialist clown to do it. now you shall reap what you sow.

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Wed 02/11/09 10:23 AM

tell me how obamas socialist porkulous packages will do any better. the liberals are driving this country into a more government dependent society. and national healthcare will only cripple the healthcare system. the doctors wont get paid as well so they will close shop. yay free healthcare. you liberal idiots wantwed this socialist clown to do it. now you shall reap what you sow.



and this somehow reflects bushs great accomplishments how????...thats the funny thing about the shrub supporters...they tend to point fingers in all different directions...and NEVER answer even the simplest of questions....still nothin.

stonekeeper's photo
Wed 02/11/09 10:28 AM
Edited by stonekeeper on Wed 02/11/09 10:30 AM
it seems to me that his greatest accomplishment has been to have developed a loyal following of people who have absolutely no clue why.

d3vi1d06's photo
Wed 02/11/09 10:30 AM
you cant answer my question? is it really that difficult? or are you going to continue to debate the tired old bush sucks arguement? last i checked, obama was inagurated on jan 20 2009. so that means that he is going to "fix bushes mistakes." and the only way he wants to fix it is by converting to socialism.

stonekeeper's photo
Wed 02/11/09 10:37 AM

you cant answer my question? is it really that difficult? or are you going to continue to debate the tired old bush sucks arguement? last i checked, obama was inagurated on jan 20 2009. so that means that he is going to "fix bushes mistakes." and the only way he wants to fix it is by converting to socialism.


forgive my lack of inteligence...my question was what was bushes greatest accomplishment??? and how is your life better now???...somehow the question is a debate...but only for those who cant answer the question...i dont know if obama can do anything at all to turn the mess around thats been handed to him...he surely cant make a worse mess of it....but i do know that even the staunchest of the bush supporters cant come up with a single thing beyond a couple of tax breaks and the right to own semi automatic weapons...STILL NOTHIN

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Wed 02/11/09 10:40 AM
What did Obama say to President Bush when he took over the office of the President?

Answer:

"Another fine mess you've gotten us into!"


laugh laugh laugh laugh

d3vi1d06's photo
Wed 02/11/09 10:42 AM


you cant answer my question? is it really that difficult? or are you going to continue to debate the tired old bush sucks arguement? last i checked, obama was inagurated on jan 20 2009. so that means that he is going to "fix bushes mistakes." and the only way he wants to fix it is by converting to socialism.


forgive my lack of inteligence...my question was what was bushes greatest accomplishment??? and how is your life better now???...somehow the question is a debate...but only for those who cant answer the question...i dont know if obama can do anything at all to turn the mess around thats been handed to him...he surely cant make a worse mess of it....but i do know that even the staunchest of the bush supporters cant come up with a single thing beyond a couple of tax breaks and the right to own semi automatic weapons...STILL NOTHIN


seriously dude. arguing with me about bushes mistakes wont accomplish a fixing of those mistakes. the only one that can fix such mistakes is our socialist liberal president obama. we must look at what he will do to ensure that everyone must answer for financial decisions. thats what his stimulous bill is all about. funny that all but 3 gop congress members opposed the stimulous package.

stonekeeper's photo
Wed 02/11/09 10:48 AM



you cant answer my question? is it really that difficult? or are you going to continue to debate the tired old bush sucks arguement? last i checked, obama was inagurated on jan 20 2009. so that means that he is going to "fix bushes mistakes." and the only way he wants to fix it is by converting to socialism.


forgive my lack of inteligence...my question was what was bushes greatest accomplishment??? and how is your life better now???...somehow the question is a debate...but only for those who cant answer the question...i dont know if obama can do anything at all to turn the mess around thats been handed to him...he surely cant make a worse mess of it....but i do know that even the staunchest of the bush supporters cant come up with a single thing beyond a couple of tax breaks and the right to own semi automatic weapons...STILL NOTHIN


seriously dude. arguing with me about bushes mistakes wont accomplish a fixing of those mistakes. the only one that can fix such mistakes is our socialist liberal president obama. we must look at what he will do to ensure that everyone must answer for financial decisions. thats what his stimulous bill is all about. funny that all but 3 gop congress members opposed the stimulous package.


again...in plain english...what was his biggest accomplishment and how is your life better??...im not pointing out his mistakes...or seeking answers on how to fix them....im asking about his accomplishments...are you able to comprehend the difference???...im unsure how to make a very simple question not turn into a debate...or a bait and switch for people who cant grasp the concept.

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Wed 02/11/09 10:53 AM
Edited by crickstergo on Wed 02/11/09 10:54 AM

it seems to me that his greatest accomplishment has been to have developed a loyal following of people who have absolutely no clue why.


On the other hand, sometimes hate just blinds people to the actual truth.........

I just wonder what all those DEAD Al Qaeda leaders would have been doing....

Maybe raising money, planning attacks, successfully revisiting the US or other nations.

It will be ten to fifteen years before the Bush's presidency can be judged accurately. Historians tell us that.

stonekeeper's photo
Wed 02/11/09 10:53 AM
out of 72 replies to this thread...still nothin...but look the other way....it wasnt his fault...whats obama gonna do??....and only one or two real answers....im amazed but not shocked...i would think that as an avid supporter you could come up with a good reason why you are so loyal...or do you just pick someone to follow without reason??...im really at a loss for understanding here.

d3vi1d06's photo
Wed 02/11/09 10:59 AM




you cant answer my question? is it really that difficult? or are you going to continue to debate the tired old bush sucks arguement? last i checked, obama was inagurated on jan 20 2009. so that means that he is going to "fix bushes mistakes." and the only way he wants to fix it is by converting to socialism.


forgive my lack of inteligence...my question was what was bushes greatest accomplishment??? and how is your life better now???...somehow the question is a debate...but only for those who cant answer the question...i dont know if obama can do anything at all to turn the mess around thats been handed to him...he surely cant make a worse mess of it....but i do know that even the staunchest of the bush supporters cant come up with a single thing beyond a couple of tax breaks and the right to own semi automatic weapons...STILL NOTHIN


seriously dude. arguing with me about bushes mistakes wont accomplish a fixing of those mistakes. the only one that can fix such mistakes is our socialist liberal president obama. we must look at what he will do to ensure that everyone must answer for financial decisions. thats what his stimulous bill is all about. funny that all but 3 gop congress members opposed the stimulous package.


again...in plain english...what was his biggest accomplishment and how is your life better??...im not pointing out his mistakes...or seeking answers on how to fix them....im asking about his accomplishments...are you able to comprehend the difference???...im unsure how to make a very simple question not turn into a debate...or a bait and switch for people who cant grasp the concept.


my life is good cause of bushes stance on military issues.

now my question to you is how is obama going to fix bush's "mistakes"?

another question. how is it bush's fault that social program abuse caused the downfall of our economy?

d3vi1d06's photo
Wed 02/11/09 11:00 AM


it seems to me that his greatest accomplishment has been to have developed a loyal following of people who have absolutely no clue why.


On the other hand, sometimes hate just blinds people to the actual truth.........

I just wonder what all those DEAD Al Qaeda leaders would have been doing....

Maybe raising money, planning attacks, successfully revisiting the US or other nations.

It will be ten to fifteen years before the Bush's presidency can be judged accurately. Historians tell us that.


true. i was getting to those points eventually.

jdcolvin's photo
Wed 02/11/09 11:00 AM
Some people really take advantage of the rule about personally attacking another member...They feel as safe there as they do behind their mothers skirt..........

stonekeeper's photo
Wed 02/11/09 11:07 AM





you cant answer my question? is it really that difficult? or are you going to continue to debate the tired old bush sucks arguement? last i checked, obama was inagurated on jan 20 2009. so that means that he is going to "fix bushes mistakes." and the only way he wants to fix it is by converting to socialism.


forgive my lack of inteligence...my question was what was bushes greatest accomplishment??? and how is your life better now???...somehow the question is a debate...but only for those who cant answer the question...i dont know if obama can do anything at all to turn the mess around thats been handed to him...he surely cant make a worse mess of it....but i do know that even the staunchest of the bush supporters cant come up with a single thing beyond a couple of tax breaks and the right to own semi automatic weapons...STILL NOTHIN


seriously dude. arguing with me about bushes mistakes wont accomplish a fixing of those mistakes. the only one that can fix such mistakes is our socialist liberal president obama. we must look at what he will do to ensure that everyone must answer for financial decisions. thats what his stimulous bill is all about. funny that all but 3 gop congress members opposed the stimulous package.


again...in plain english...what was his biggest accomplishment and how is your life better??...im not pointing out his mistakes...or seeking answers on how to fix them....im asking about his accomplishments...are you able to comprehend the difference???...im unsure how to make a very simple question not turn into a debate...or a bait and switch for people who cant grasp the concept.


my life is good cause of bushes stance on military issues.

now my question to you is how is obama going to fix bush's "mistakes"?

another question. how is it bush's fault that social program abuse caused the downfall of our economy?



ive already answered this question...very directly i might add...im not sure he can do anything to fix the situation...it may well be beyond repair...i dont need to hide behind mommas skirt...or dance around dircet questions...or create debate from direct questions....still nothin

stonekeeper's photo
Wed 02/11/09 11:09 AM

Some people really take advantage of the rule about personally attacking another member...They feel as safe there as they do behind their mothers skirt..........


i dont see any personal attack...i see broadbased statements that several people seem to fall under.

d3vi1d06's photo
Wed 02/11/09 11:13 AM
personally i was just trying to find a thread where i can voice my right wing opinion.

stonekeeper's photo
Wed 02/11/09 11:30 AM
Edited by stonekeeper on Wed 02/11/09 11:32 AM

personally i was just trying to find a thread where i can voice my right wing opinion.


i dont see an opinion...so far i see questions answered with questions...a dance around the bush if you will....i think there is a difference...so how is your life good based on his military stance?

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