Religion is Mythology

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Mythology is Fantasy

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Fantasy is Imagination

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Imagination can be productive or defective

When Captain Kirk said beam me up Scotty on his cell phone type gadget the man who watched it had light bulb ideas hovering over his head.

and eventually the cell phone was created (Just a idea not a confirmation if the story is true)

which leads to interesting inventions to allow humans to enjoy their leisure time or in one sense be productive if you will.

Our minds are always searching and trying to learn new things and are filled with curiosities since we were born


yet (watch out!) imagination can be destructive

causing fear to people to control the masses

by inventing idealogies from looking at our surroundings such as the stars, the sun daytime (Good)= Ra to night dark time (evil)= Set when cold and everything shuts down. When nightstalking animals go out hunting and so forth to make people fear to go outside.

Above is just an example of the many many religious stories around the world written or told


so in the end be careful on how to use your imagination for it can become delusional and even believable to influence a great many people to do bad things in life

and yes

sometimes good things too

I myth you Smylesth

you are correct about religion.religion is man made.however christianity is a relationship with christ. just like anything can be used by saten to mislead and destroy.so do you let saten win and write christ off as evil? of corse not.true christianity is good not evil.not a myth.do we do away with our form of government because a few mislead and are corrupt it for there own self interest?of corse not.do we crucify christ again and call him a myth?dont you think the disciples who were tourcherd and killed for christ sake would have admitted it was a myth if it were so?its all about faith.christanity in the way god created it is nothing but good.man makes and have made it bad for his own greed.im sorry you feel the way you do.it makes me want to be more christlike so i dont turn anyone away from the trueth by bad selfrightious example

I believe all religions are manmade imaginations written by scribes or scholars at the time, which includes your feelings and faith in Christianity. These cunning Jews who had deep questions on the Torah challenged Rabbis at the time to give solid answers that they couldn't give, or if did they weren't fully accepted answers to be logical to accept. And of course these Jews who challenged the Torah was also challenging Constantine the 1st because he believed that he was a God. Something that kings and queens have done many times in history because of the urge and feeling of having power.

So again planning had helped Jesus and his followers to question the Torah Jewish faith system and challenge the Roman Empire. I personally believe Jesus was a great man who tried to show a different perspective of how to see life and learn how to live amongst each other peacefully. His absence at the time made a difference in his life when he returned home.
In the long run the relationship that many Christians have with Jesus contradicts with the words of the bible if you do a extensive research.

I too feel sorry for you to actually believe in a manmade religion such as Christianity, yet there is always hope for you.

yet in the end regardless if you want to believe in the Christian faith system for the rest of your life that you as a human being can also accept(if not accept then tolerate) different idealogies without resorting in telling them that they are following the wrong path in believing so, but to embrace them as a fellow brother or sister instead knowing that everyone is on the same boat together in the end.

I am suddenly mythified

I agree that all religions are mythology and imagination.

And they can be good or bad.

We can imagine a spiritual world of truly loving deities, and even though we've made them up entirely they can still be very real for us bring true magickal power into our lives.

Or, like you say, we can imagine a jealous hateful Godhead who can only be appeased by having someone nailed to a pole and who will send anyone to a hellish place of eternal damnation if they dare to reject his vile demented ways and choose to believe that the creator of this universe is actually intelligent and compassionate.

But what would such a negative view of a God be worth? Such a hateful heartless vision of God who despises compassion and denounce love can only bring division and pain to humanity. Which it clearly has done to all of the religions that have been based on that hateful mythological dogma. They continue to spread hatred and bigotry to this very day.

It is truly a shame that so many people have accepted such a hateful mythology of a God and continually harass and degrade their loving brothers and sisters who refuse to believe that God is so vile.

We need to reach out to these tormented people and help them to understand that the mythology they have chosen to worship as their picture of God was truly created by a very crude and ungodly culture who were merely using their mythological idea of a God to justify their immoral actions against their women, they own brothers, and their enemies.

There are such beautiful mythologies out there. And surely if we have a divine creator that divine creator must be beautiful for this is the very meaning of divine. An ugly jealous God who condemns people to hell just because they refuse to stoop to his level of madness is no God at all. At best it would be an all-powerful tyrant who has no moral values whatsoever.

You just can't have a God who condemns people to eternal damnation simply because they hold higher moral values than the God. That's simply absurd.

I have created a beautiful picture of God. I'm sure that God will be well-pleased. For my picture of God has been created with the utmost love and childlike innocence.

Any God who would become angry and throw a temper tantrum because a human displayed an act of genuine love and sincere innocence would be no God at all. Such a supposed God would be the most horrific demon anyone could possibly imagine.

I think a good rule of thumb for humans is to never invent a God who has less compassion than them. In fact, if someone worships a God that has less compassion than you, then you can be absolutely certain that the worshiper has even less compassion yet. For surely no one would worship a God who shows less compassion than themselves.

So yes, make up the very best picture of God that your imagination can muster and KNOW that God is even better than this.

Remove yourself from the presence of any religion that suggests that God has lesser moral values than yourself. That's the quickest and easiest way to recognize a false religion. God cannot be less moral than any mortal man. Therefore God cannot be less moral than you. If you find yourself worshiping a doctrine that claims that a God is sending people to eternal damnation for not accepting blood sacrifices as solutions to problems, then you should truly question the morals of that. Unless, of course, you're in agreement that blood sacrifices are cool and the that people who aren't into that should be eternally punished.

That's a matter of the personal moral values of the individual I guess.

Imagining a God that is more compassionate then a human being is the best way to go about life if one needs to believe in a higher identity, energy, or power of somekind yet the question is why do we as humans have the ability to do evil acts such as rape, murder, kill, etc. etc.


Why would the world be created to eat each other up to survive?

This is probably a common question throughout mankind that many many stories have been created to ease our minds when living.

yet the question remains unanswered for some reason.

If a human mind must think of a god to sustain sanity and live peacefully amongst others then why was the planet created in such a way?

Why would my human mind know how to create a world that doesn't have to eat each other to sustain?

Why would my human mind know how to live peacefully without resort to hurting each other?

yet in the end the world is not so...

interesting perspective which will be slaughtered by thousand year old writings eventually

who in the world practices blood sacrifices anymore???
that just sounds like the good old argument from the fundies against the Catholic Church.
I have gone to mass since i can remember, and i have never seen any blood whatsoever.
The Catholic Church does not preach that people who don't believe in her doctrine (which is the same my Lord's preaching) are going to hell.
Each person will be saved or condemned not for what he/she believes, but for his/her ability to love.
As my Lord is love in Himself, the person who loves others in the same way they love themselves, they are following my Lord's command, thus, they will be saved by him, even though they don't see my Lord. At some point they will open their eyes.
There is no blood sacrifice whatsoever, the only sacrifice is the sacrifice of love one person can do for another person who he/she loves.
It's not about sacrifices, it's about love. That is the way of my Lord.
Because there is no greater love than giving away ones life for a friend whom one loves.

Nice thread Smiless

The very thought that the religion started blood sacrifices at its time is evident enough to not believe in it today even if they are not done anymore.

The very fact of looking at a human being nailed on a cross because he had a different solution on how to maintain peace amongst the people is evident enough not to believe in this.

The very fact that one must drink wine and say "this is my blood" is enough for me not to drink it at the time.

the very fact that such strict laws made by man telling how to raise our children, how to treat our woman, and what to do with them if they don't obey is enough for me to not believe in such belief system.

For that matter I would rather be a Spartan in Sparta where woman were at least respected and probably a rare occurence at the time as the majority of civilizations didn't respect the woman.

I must say that if such a religion started like this even though not practiced anymore is something I couldn't believe in.

I figure after posting over a hundred threads that eventually one good thread will come out of it

when one stays with the form, one never knows the deepness.
however, faith should not ever be imposed into people, thus i rest my case.
I just know I'm happy.

I understand your view. Yet I clearly do not agree with it.

The idea that the giving of a life to save a friend is the ultimate act of love is only true for mortals who would have no better way to solve a problem.

The flaw with the idea that our creator would need to have his own son crucified to save humans is flawed on many levels.

First Flaw:

It suggests that the creator could not think of a better solution to the problem and therefore is very limited in wisdom. It also suggests that the creator is not all-powerful and that with God all things are not possible. Thus this limits the creator's abilities.

So this view of God demands that God is very limited in wisdom and power.

Second Flaw:

This is very closely related to the first flaw, and it is simply this:

To sacrifice your only begotten son can only be viewed as nothing short of an act of desperation. Thus this solution to the problem is a clear sign of a very desperate God.

Thus we have a picture of a truly desperate God.

Third Flaw:

The whole idea is that anyone who doesn't accept this blood sacrifice having been done in their name, for their sake, will be cast into a hellish fire of eternal damnation.

But this suggests that God has no compassion for anyone who has compassion.

Any genuinely compassionate person would reject the notion of having anyone crucified for their sake.

Therefore this is a picture of God who sends the most compassionate people to hell.

You said:



That's totally irrelevant. The bottom line is that you must accept the blood sacrifice of God in your name.

When that sacrifice took place is irrelavent. The bottom line is that you must condone it having been done for your sake in order to obtain God's love.

God won't love you unless you condone this blood sacrifice.

So this God will only love people who condone blood sacrifices.

Period.

And anyone who won't condone a blood sacrifice in their name will be sent to eternal damnation.

No commpassionate people allowed in this God's kingdom. Only those who are willing to condone a blood sacrifice done in their name for their sake are permitted entrance into this God's heaven.

That's the bottom line Miguel.

I could never be eligible for this God's heaven because I'm too compassionate. This God could never be my God. I would necessarily need to choose eternal damnation just as a matter of principle.

Unless, of course, God really is lame and just can't do any better.

But if that's the case he should have said something. Maybe we could help.



In the meantime if the men who wrote this book want to claim that this God is all-wise and all-powerful then we've got a serious problem.

If this is how an all-wise, all-powerful God has chosen to solve problems then going to his heaven would be a mistake anyway.

If he solves his problems by having people nailed to poles I don't think I want to go to his heaven. That's no my idea of a nice God.

This could only be excused if God had no other choice.

But that flies in the face of what the doctrine claims. This God is supposed to be all-wise and all-powerful yet he chooses to have people nailed to poles to solve his problems?

Sorry, that doesn't fly as a viable picture of a God IMHO.

And the very idea that he would cast people into eternal damnation if they don't accept this method of solving problems just makes it even more insane.

You say that "faith should not ever be imposed into people", yet the Biblical God demands just that.

According to the Bible the biblical God demands that heathens be murdered, including their wives and children.

So if you don't believe that faith should be imposed into people, then you disagree with the very God that you claim to worship.

The Bibilical God supposedly rejects and condemns everyone who refuses to have faith.

Of course, I've shown where Jesus claimed othewise, but Christians are quick to refute my interpretations and stand by the idea that Jesus condemns all those who do not accept the Christian's interpretations of his words and the whole rest of the godforsaken book.

Of course, I confess that most of those have been Protestants who also reject the Catholic interpretation of the scriptures.

It's hard to know what "Christains" believe anymore since the Protestants all make up their own crap, and the Pope keeps changing what the Catholic Church believes.

For all I know, at some future date, the Pope himself my come out and confess that Jesus was most likely never the son of the God of Abraham and that the God of Abraham was never anything more than a myth.

I mean, they keep changing what they believe, so who knows what they might believe tomorrow?

There's always hope that someday they'll see Jesus as the man who denounced the God of Abraham.

I guess anything's possible.

The Great Wanka Tanka accepts all in his arms if you want to. He doesn't believe in stoning people, killing, using emotions as jealousy and hate, blood sacrifices, or using terms as zealout, infidel, sinner, or unworthy.

Join him and shed a big smile like he always does

It gives naturally moral people a good life. It gives immoral people something to do, it gives evil people something to use to kill others

What a bunch of morons...lol. You people are pathetic. If God is a myth then why does anything exsist? The greatest scientist in the world openly admit that they can't "figure out" why the big bang happend. Charles darwin openly admitted before he died that evolution was a big scam. Yet you idiots still look at the sky and see the sun everyday and still lie to yourselves and say "God does'nt exsist". Well lemme ask you this, did you put the sun in the cosmos? Did one of your buddies? How about one of your ancestors? Oh really they did'nt, hmm, that's amazing. So how did the sun get there? and what about the rest of the cosmos? And why are human being the only creatures that have intellect and know right from wrong? You see no matter what way some wack job wants to try and disprove the exsistence of God, they can't. So logical deduction OBVIOUSLY points to Divine Creation. If you can't prove that any other theory disproves God, then OBVIOUSLY He exsists. No matter how much our pathetic species tries we can't know everything, which should tell us that WE DID'NT CREATE OURSELVES.

And secondly, you are a Fukking idiot if you think that God wants Christians to murder heathens. NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT EVER SAY THAT. In the old testament, yes it is written that the Jews were supposed to kill anyone that didnt believe in thier God. But no true Christian believes in the Bible. The bible is another on of Satan's tools to divide mankind, just like religion. You see FAITH AND LOVE IS THE ONLY TRUE PATH OF GOD. And I'm not choosing to "believe in Christianity". I know for a fact that God exsist. I have walked hand in hand with God out onto an ocean. I am His witness. Soon you all shall see his wrath, and you will be made humble before Him. God's patience is growing shorter by the day, and He is tired of everyone falsifying His name. He is setting the stage, and I'm here to make you all sit down and shut up. God is Almighty, and His Love is eternal. But he only loves those who love Him, for He made us in thier image, which means every emotion we feel God feels too. Only He feels it perfectly. That is why God is the only one who can exhibit Sin without being Sinful, for His emotions are perfect and He decides what is perfect or not.

He is Coming soon.

IMO it's all in what you believe true. to some it's mythology (no matter what the beliefs are)

can't you say most things are myths...other than religion?

that kind of response is why people think negativly of christians. I'm a christian and have NO right to be judge, jury and executioner. as far as I'm concerned....I'm not God. you can make your point without the nanny nanny boo boo attitude. did you forget the Bible when it tells us not to judge?

actually the Bible says spread the gospel but it also says not to force it on people