I can't believe people are still arguing over this. If these rumors were any bit questionable don't you think the supreme court would have seen the case? It appears there was nothing to it because the case was thrown out of court in early December. It was nothing more than a few stupid republicans desperate attempt to attack Obama. They obviously failed. People should get over it.

The SCOTUS has some pretty deep thinkers. They would know what would happen if they did take the case and it was found in favor of the litigant.

The wisest thing that anyone who values the Union over the battle can do is let it go. If we fight this battle and win, we still lose. Everybody just let it go.

Sadly, I did not know anything about Obama's citizenship being questioned. However, I think it's ridiculous to demand that he "prove" it in order to quell the masses. **** the masses! Why do people have to answer stupid questions for stupid people? And, as was said in here before, no matter what Obama proves or disproves, it will not change the fact that some of the most ignorant citizens will change their opinions about him. They will just find something else about him. I think that Obama is quite an intelligent man... and an intelligent man knows that sometimes silence is the best answer...

The question actually goes to the heart of our constitution. The fact is that the court case was delayed many times to the point that it would have damaged the Union for the case to have been heard.

The question SHOULD have been answered before the election, because it is a requirement to be elected president.

I'm really not sure why you think it's a "stupid question" to wonder if a candidate is eligible to be President. We are a country of laws and nobody is above them, not even Barack Obama.

At this point, it's too late for the answer to do anything but damage the Union, so I say "move on...", but to say "**** the masses"?

I guess, in my mind, that it is obvious that Obama is a citizen, because if he wasn't, they wouldn't even consider letting him run for the presidency. That's my line of thinking... I'm sure they have to be able to prove themselves before they run. I guess, when I say masses, I refer to the idiot masses that really are only ganging up on Obama because he has a strange name or is not white. And that is ridiculous. If Obama was a white man, I guarantee he wouldn't be experiencing this... OR if he were black with a name like Sam Jones...

Really? Did you know that John McCain (who happens to be a white man) had to address the same kind of lawsuit from the same man? The guy filed lawsuits against several candidates who all had shady citizenship. John McCain provided a valid original Birth Certificate and magically the lawsuit went away.

If Obama had done the same (in respect to those who wanted to know the answer) or if a Judge had ruled that Obama couldn't run until the case was settled (none did) then this thread wouldn't exist.

So I'm sorry, but you are wrong. The only way that it would have been proved if Obama was eligible to be President is if this case had gone to trial. But as I mentioned before, a liberal judge postponed this case until after the election, when he knew it would be too toxic for any appeals court to even hear it.

Will we ever know if Obama was eligible to be president? No idea. But we certainly don't know that now.

I want to know why people can't accept the fact that Hawaii has Obama's birth certificate.

Court cases are routinely delayed, it often takes years to wind their way through the system and it is usually no fault of either of the parties involved, just the way it is because of backlogs. It has nothing to do with whether it could have damaged the country. Besides, the case was dismissed as having no merit back in December.

And, the question was answered. He would have been required to prove citizenship to the Democratic party long before he announced his intention to run. The would never allow themselves to be put in the position of endorsing a candidate who was unqualified to run for such a fundamental reason. And it was answered again when it first came to light. He produced a legal document, signed, sealed and delivered from the State of Hawaii. Unfortunately, there are those who keep insisting that that particular proof is not good enough. I wonder if they'd have the same reaction if they were applying for a passport, drivers license or anything else a birth certificate is required for and was told it wasn't sufficient proof of being a citizen.

SCOTUS reviewed two appeals on this matter and dismissed them without comment allowing the rulings of the lower courts to stand.

The question was answered.

And answered and answered and answered. Let it go already. Obama is the president of the united states!!! Done already.. ugh

Since this country went bankrupt quite a while back and is basically living on CREDIT and Federal reserve notes, which are I.O.U.'s, and since we have no gold to back up our money, we (the country) are broke and we (the people) are nothing more than collateral for the money we borrowed.

Hense, The United States of America Inc. is now a CORPORATION. If you are a citizen of The United States of America, you are owned by the corporation. You have no rights under the constitution. Constitutional Law in the courts does not apply to you. All laws are simply statutes of the corporation. The people don't know this. The people have been robbed and swindled. Most lawyers know this and are sworn to secrecy.

Now if the true owners of this corporation wants someone as its president, they don't have to follow the orders of the people anyway. THEY OWN THE CORPORATION.

Whether a person is an American Citizen or not makes no difference to them. What the people say makes no difference to them. We lost our country long time ago. We are part of the corporation now.

Wrong. You are attempting to misdirect the people.

I can say I have a Hawaii certificate. You accept this?

A copy has been issued, but the original has not been shown.

A copy has been electronically created, in other words, there has been a testimony in favor of original document existance, but the liability for the validity of the testimony has been placed on some smaller people or a computer data integrity.
This is a game move.

Original needs to be produced.

A bankruptcy doesn't convert a sovereign nation to a corporation. A sovereign nation is a sovereign nation precisely because it does not need to answer to anybody outside of itself. In simpler terms, we can default all we want, and the only consequence would be a possibility to lose the credit from other sovereign nations.

I can't believe it is so hard to produce an original certificate if one exists.

May-be we should outsorce ALL decision making to bureaucrats?
After all, they do know what they are doing, right?

Spidercmb has got it right.

I think your heavenly father could pop out of the mist and $hit a copy of his birth certificate and you would still chew this bone nogames39.

Enough...

Its really simple why they dont acknowledge the cert.........its geography they didnt attend that day in school when most of us learned that Hawaii is a part of America (ITS AN AMERICAN STATE) PEOPLE.............by the way now we really all look stupid if some of us didnt know it.............KNOWLEDGE IS KEY...........KNOWLEDGE IS KEY

If you say so. I hope you are right. But what happens if countries (like China) stop holding the U.S. Dollar? What happens if the dollar drops to nothing on the world market? It is going down right now.

What happens if the loans are called and we have no gold to back them up? They could take the land. They could take your land. If you really owned your land why do you still have to pay for it each year in taxes? Where do you think that money is going? It is paying interest on the loan. Your government does not get any of that. Try asking them to whom are you paying this debt. You will not get an answer. Try finding out where your property tax is going. You will not get a strait answer. Try not paying it. You will loose your land.

I was once asked for my birth certificate and I produced an original one from the very hospital I was born at. It had my hand and feet prints on it, and the name of my parents, the time of birth, location etc. It was notarized.

Guess what? It was not accepted as a legitimate document because it came from the hospital and not a government office!

I was told this: "Oh this is just a hospital certificate." as if that is not good enough. Are they kidding?

So I had to send to California for my birth certificate and they sent me a notarized paper. It did not have my foot prints or hand prints on it.

I would think the one with my actual hand and foot prints from the hospital would have been more valid.

Noooo they want something official from THE STATE. It has to be part of the damn system corporation. They don't want anything real anymore.

Why do you think so of me? Don't you agree that this sounds like you perceive me as irrational?

I do not care that much for Obama. This means I have no bone to chew. He still might produce the certificate, who knows.

I have no evidence that he is not a natural born. I do not care for allegations of his race or religion. I just want the constitutionality.

I am sick of what Bush has done. I don't want any games to continue.

I tell you what: If the certificate is produced and confirmed forensically to be not tampered with... I will be glad, and done on this issue.

Notice, I am not against Obama being a president. I just don't want the player, be it Obama or McCain, or whoever.

Obviously, since he is a president, he is in focus of attention. So, even if proved legitimate, he is still to be critisized on his future policies and actions. But not on this snag.

I don't speak for anyone else though. Some might be still dragging this issue, not me.

I sent for my birth certificate back in the early 80's and they would only send me a copy, not the original. It worked the same for what I needed it for, but I never saw the original.

I don't think anything that anyone could have done to prove Obama is a citizen will be acceptable by those that think he is a fraud in some way. Even if he could proves something tomorrow some would suspect that he had something doctored.