I am. You said the bible states God cannot be tempted - then you listed numerous passages that you presume contradict this. However, the passages you site prove the point that God cannot be tempted. I don't recall your stating one where God WAS tempted.

Ive got another contradiction.

Can God be tempted?

NO

James 1:13

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.

YES

Exodus 17:2

Wherefore the people did chide with Moses, and said, Give us water that we may drink. And Moses said unto them, Why chide ye with me? wherefore do ye tempt the LORD?

You have already posted this one.

You are missing several things, let me fruitlessly point them out to you.

1. God cannot be tempted with evil

God cannot be tempted with evil. That doesn't imply that God cannot be tempted at all, just with evil. You seem to miss this possibility completely. While I would agree that God cannot be tempted at all, I wouldn't have an scriptures to support that position. I think it's bias, rather than any faith in God that causes you to ignore this possibility.

2. And Moses said unto them, Why chide ye with me? wherefore do ye tempt the LORD?

The word "tempt" is translated from the word "nacah", which means "to test, try, prove, tempt, assay, put to the proof or test". They weren't trying to "tempt" God into action, they were trying to "test" God. They were demanding that God prove himself to them. The meanings of words change over time. The KJV is hundreds of years old, the meanings have changed a lot in that time. I love the KJV, but it's not always as clear as some of the newer translations.

If you want to use a more accurate Bible, then I would suggest NASB.

Let's look at the same verse in the NASB version...



Thus we seen that the Bible, when translated into modern English, supports my exegesis.

I was pointing out CONTRADICTIONS. Eljay asked where the contradiction was and since he had not bothered to scroll back and read the thread, I simply re posted it for him.

Its not whether or not he can be tempted, its that the bible itself makes the statement that he can and then he can not be tempted. Whether or not god accepts the temptation is irrelevant to this discussion.

Read all of my post. I proved that those verses aren't contradictory.

If one does not accept temptation, one is not tempted.

Here is yet another contradiction.

How many sons did Abraham have?

Abraham had only one son.


Hebrews 11:17
By faith Abraham when he was tried, offered up Isaac, ... his only begotten son.

Genesis 22:2
Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, ... and offer him there for a burnt offering.

Abraham had more than one son.

Genesis 16:15
And Hagar bare Abraham a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.

Genesis 21:2-3
For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son is his old age .... And Abraham called him Isaac.

Genesis 25:1-2
Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.

Galatians 4:22
Abraham had two sons; the one by a bond-woman, and the other by a free woman

Oh give me a break.

Refute what I said or admit you are wrong. You always do this. You pretend what is said is just stupid, but you have no arguments against it. LOOK THE FREAKING WORD UP!!!!! (yes, I'm yelling. Next time don't act stupid) You pretend to want an intelligent discussion, but you act like a child. "Oh give me a break" That's not a rebuttal. I did a nice little exegesis for you. I gave you the same verse from a new translation to support my exegesis. Your response was the idiotic "Oh give me a break". You really aren't worth any intellectual time or effort. You are like a giant black pit of stupidity and I just throw my efforts into you and your response is "Oh give me a break". I'll give you a break, a break from intelligent discussion, so that you can wallow in your own ignorance like a pig.

Spider I mean give me a break because all that paragraph is attempting to do is re-define the word "tempt". What difference does that make here?

Can God be tempted? (TESTED)

NO

James 1:13

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.

YES

Exodus 17:2

Wherefore the people did chide with Moses, and said, Give us water that we may drink. And Moses said unto them, Why chide ye with me? wherefore do ye tempt the LORD?


The bible is making conflicting statements. So what if you change the definition of the word tempt. Okay use test. Can you or can you not TEST god?

NO!!!!

THINK FOR YOUR SELF YOU PARROT. You just repeat refuted arguments from Atheist websites and reject any exegesis disproving your beloved "contradictions".

The word in James is in GREEK, the word in Exodus is in HEBREW. They are different WORDS in their original language.

The word in James is "apeirastos", which means "Cannot be tempted by evil".

The word in Exodus is "nacah", which means "to test, try, prove, tempt, assay, put to the proof or test".

HELLO? ANY OF THIS GETTING THROUGH TO YOU?

There is no contradiction.

James says that God cannot be tempted.

Exodus shows Moses telling the Israelites to not test God.

NO CONTRADICTION.

Now put a little effort into the other "contradictions" you are posting and you will find that they disappear faster than a jelly donut from Michael Moore's kitchen.

YOU THINK FOR YOURSELF FOR ONCE YOU BRAINWASHED AUTOMATON!

The bible is making conflicting statements here. Changing the definition of the word "Tempt" to "Test" does not refute that.

Is it OK to test (or tempt) God?

Yes, certain kinds of tests are okay.

The wet / dry wool test worked well for Gideon.

And Gideon said unto God, If thou wilt save Israel by mine hand, as thou hast said, Behold, I will put a fleece of wool in the floor; and if the dew be on the fleece only, and it be dry upon all the earth beside, then shall I know that thou wilt save Israel by mine hand, as thou hast said. And it was so: for he rose up early on the morrow, and thrust the fleece together, and wringed the dew out of the fleece, a bowl full of water. And Gideon said unto God, Let not thine anger be hot against me, and I will speak but this once: let me prove, I pray thee, but this once with the fleece; let it now be dry only upon the fleece, and upon all the ground let there be dew. And God did so that night: for it was dry upon the fleece only, and there was dew on all the ground. -- Judges 6:36-40

No, God doesn't like to be tested or tempted.


Deuteronomy 6:16
Ye shall not tempt the Lord your God.

Matthew 4:7, Luke 4:12
Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

IN JAMES, THE WORD MEANS "CANNOT BE TEMPTED BY EVIL".

IN EXODUS, THE WORD MEANS "TEST".

The word "tempt" has a totally different meaning in each verse.

You have a choice: Agree with me and be right and reasonable or continue to insist you are right and be wrong and unreasonable. Your choice.

Im not calling you wrong. Im simply showing you are wrong. Look at my edited post

Your exegesis is completely off.

Gideon believed in God and wanted God to give him a sign if he was to free Israel.

The events at Massah were the people not believing in God and demanding that God prove that he exists.

Two totally different situations. Gideon wanted guidance from the God he had faith in, while the people at Massah wanted proof that God existed.

So you are still wrong.

Also, you haven't seemed to acknowledge this yet, but just so you know: James = Greek = "cannot be tempted to evil"; Exodus = Hebrew = "Tested". Those two scriptures are talking about two totally different things, so they cannot be contradictory.

Obviously - you were not an English major.

In the first of your examples, James says that God does not tempt, and is not tempted.

In the second example Moses chastizes the people for ATTEMPTING to tempt the Lord. A foolish task on their part since... Um... Well... Er...
The Lord is not tempted.

Please explain how you see this as a contradiction rather than demonstrating the point?

Its not an exegesis, its just two statements that appear to be in conflict with one another. I gave you a clear example of both. My second example was indeed a TEST. Gideon tested god. Yet we are not supposed to test god. So you are in fact wrong.

Deuteronomy 6:16


You always seem to miss the key statements. (I noticed that you cut out half of the verse when you quoted it above)

The Israelites at Massah tested not God's will (should we do X as did Gideon), but they questioned if God existed at all. God doesn't give proof that he exists to those who doubt his existence, but God will guide his faithful to his will. Don't you see the difference?

Whats difference does that make? I cut it off because it was irrelevant. .

You aren't serious, are you?

Gideon tested the Lords WILL to see if it was God's will that he should lead Israel to freedom.

The people at Massah tested God's existence.

You don't see a difference?

Moses was telling the Israelites to never demand proof of God's existence. Moses did not tell the Israelites to never ask God for evidence of his will.