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Topic: Evolution Is it Compatible With THE BIBLE?
damagedgoods1106 Joined Fri 01/09/09 Posts: 24	Fri 01/09/09 10:20 PM
I think this is hilarious!!! and so true!!!!!!!! omg..i love this!!!

damagedgoods1106 Joined Fri 01/09/09 Posts: 24	Fri 01/09/09 10:24 PM
--->BTW<--- that whole this is hilarious quote thing was completely irrelevant to the subject at hand..i didn't read it all so i just thought i would comment on something that was quicker to read. sorry<3

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Fri 01/09/09 11:27 PM
I think this is hilarious!!! and so true!!!!!!!! omg..i love this!!!

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 01/10/09 12:33 AM
I see the contradiction in the actual passages. Not to mention that he is described as having other kids with another woman. Or what is most likely is that the Jewish scribe corrupted the text and inserted the name Isaac because it is a known fact that the Jewish nation does look down upon Ishmael and his descendents, so therefore they simply put the name Isaac to make it seem that all blessings were for them and very little for Ishmael. Possibly Both sides have their own version

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 01/10/09 04:51 AM
--->BTW<--- that whole this is hilarious quote thing was completely irrelevant to the subject at hand..i didn't read it all so i just thought i would comment on something that was quicker to read. sorry<3 This thread has more or less devolved anyway. I see these passages as explicit contradictions and the Christians are blind to that. Oh well.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 01/10/09 04:52 AM Edited by Krimsa on Sat 01/10/09 04:54 AM
I see the contradiction in the actual passages. Not to mention that he is described as having other kids with another woman. Or what is most likely is that the Jewish scribe corrupted the text and inserted the name Isaac because it is a known fact that the Jewish nation does look down upon Ishmael and his descendents, so therefore they simply put the name Isaac to make it seem that all blessings were for them and very little for Ishmael. Possibly Both sides have their own version "They call me Ishmael." Isnt that the first line in "Moby D!ck?" Ishmael ended up being the lone survivor on board that boat after the whale destroyed it. I cant remember now.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 01/10/09 11:31 AM
I see the contradiction in the actual passages. Not to mention that he is described as having other kids with another woman. Or what is most likely is that the Jewish scribe corrupted the text and inserted the name Isaac because it is a known fact that the Jewish nation does look down upon Ishmael and his descendents, so therefore they simply put the name Isaac to make it seem that all blessings were for them and very little for Ishmael. Possibly Both sides have their own version "They call me Ishmael." Isnt that the first line in "Moby D!ck?" Ishmael ended up being the lone survivor on board that boat after the whale destroyed it. I cant remember now. Yes it is and there are no contradictions about the 2 sons of Abraham. He only had 2 sons. Thats been accepted history around the world for 3000 years or so. I dont know what you mean about him having other sons. Nowhere does it say that. But he does have MANY descendents.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 01/10/09 11:38 AM
Yep. Like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, nobody can see God and live. Not nobody. Not Nohow. Exodus 19 19:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish. The One will be revealed. Thats why the final book of the bible is called "Revelation". Has he "Revealed" himself to anyone yet?

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 01/10/09 11:42 AM Edited by Krimsa on Sat 01/10/09 11:42 AM
Contradiction: Genesis 25:1-2 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. Thats clearly contradictory even without the Ishmael/Issac issue

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 01/10/09 11:50 AM Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 01/10/09 11:52 AM
Contradiction: Genesis 25:1-2 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. Thats clearly contradictory even without the Ishmael/Issac issue Thanks for reminding me of that.He had those sons AFTER his wife died and after Isaac and Ishmael were born. Isaac and Ishmael are the 2 most people remember because thats what all the controversy was about.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 01/10/09 11:53 AM
Yep. Like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, nobody can see God and live. Not nobody. Not Nohow. Exodus 19 19:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish. The One will be revealed. Thats why the final book of the bible is called "Revelation". Has he "Revealed" himself to anyone yet? I dont know. I dont have that knowledge Krimsa. But its supposed to be a shocker.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 01/10/09 12:08 PM
Contradiction: Genesis 25:1-2 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. Thats clearly contradictory even without the Ishmael/Issac issue Thanks for reminding me of that.He had those sons AFTER his wife died and after Isaac and Ishmael were born. Isaac and Ishmael are the 2 most people remember because thats what all the controversy was about. No the "contradiction" is that in the bible itself, it clearly states that Abraham has ONLY one son. Then it states that he has more than one son. That is the contradiction. I have posted this several times now. Thats why I am pointing this out since people only seem to think that there was Issac Thats because the bible is contradictory on that point.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 01/10/09 12:08 PM
Yep. Like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, nobody can see God and live. Not nobody. Not Nohow. Exodus 19 19:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish. The One will be revealed. Thats why the final book of the bible is called "Revelation". Has he "Revealed" himself to anyone yet? I dont know. I dont have that knowledge Krimsa. But its supposed to be a shocker. Thus the "Wizard of Oz" reference.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 01/10/09 12:17 PM
Yep. Like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, nobody can see God and live. Not nobody. Not Nohow. Exodus 19 19:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish. The One will be revealed. Thats why the final book of the bible is called "Revelation". Has he "Revealed" himself to anyone yet? I dont know. I dont have that knowledge Krimsa. But its supposed to be a shocker. Thus the "Wizard of Oz" reference. yeah, I knew that and I was agreeing with you.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 01/10/09 12:18 PM
Contradiction: Genesis 25:1-2 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. Thats clearly contradictory even without the Ishmael/Issac issue Thanks for reminding me of that.He had those sons AFTER his wife died and after Isaac and Ishmael were born. Isaac and Ishmael are the 2 most people remember because thats what all the controversy was about. No the "contradiction" is that in the bible itself, it clearly states that Abraham has ONLY one son. Then it states that he has more than one son. That is the contradiction. I have posted this several times now. Thats why I am pointing this out since people only seem to think that there was Issac Thats because the bible is contradictory on that point. It means that he had one HEIR.In the ancient times the oldest son by a mans lawful wife got everything and the other children didnt get much.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 01/10/09 12:30 PM
Back to the topic at hand There is creationism and evolution This is because there are two gods. Several of you are starting to understand what I mean by that.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 01/10/09 12:34 PM
Contradiction: Genesis 25:1-2 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. Thats clearly contradictory even without the Ishmael/Issac issue Thanks for reminding me of that.He had those sons AFTER his wife died and after Isaac and Ishmael were born. Isaac and Ishmael are the 2 most people remember because thats what all the controversy was about. No the "contradiction" is that in the bible itself, it clearly states that Abraham has ONLY one son. Then it states that he has more than one son. That is the contradiction. I have posted this several times now. Thats why I am pointing this out since people only seem to think that there was Issac Thats because the bible is contradictory on that point. It means that he had one HEIR.In the ancient times the oldest son by a mans lawful wife got everything and the other children didnt get much. That is irrelevant. If that were the case, then whoever wrote this probably should have been smart enough to indicate that. Nope. Instead he wrote Abraham had ONLY one son, then in several other passages, he writes well actually Abraham has this and this and this son. You cant do that. Its whats referred to as a "continuity flaw."

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 01/10/09 12:38 PM
Contradiction: Genesis 25:1-2 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. Thats clearly contradictory even without the Ishmael/Issac issue Thanks for reminding me of that.He had those sons AFTER his wife died and after Isaac and Ishmael were born. Isaac and Ishmael are the 2 most people remember because thats what all the controversy was about. No the "contradiction" is that in the bible itself, it clearly states that Abraham has ONLY one son. Then it states that he has more than one son. That is the contradiction. I have posted this several times now. Thats why I am pointing this out since people only seem to think that there was Issac Thats because the bible is contradictory on that point. It means that he had one HEIR.In the ancient times the oldest son by a mans lawful wife got everything and the other children didnt get much. That is irrelevant. If that were the case, then whoever wrote this probably should have been smart enough to indicate that. Nope. Instead he wrote Abraham had ONLY one son, then in several other passages, he writes well actually Abraham has this and this and this son. You cant do that. Its whats referred to as a "continuity flaw." Whoever wrote it probably had a vested interest.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sat 01/10/09 01:13 PM Edited by Krimsa on Sat 01/10/09 01:14 PM
Contradiction: Genesis 25:1-2 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. Thats clearly contradictory even without the Ishmael/Issac issue Thanks for reminding me of that.He had those sons AFTER his wife died and after Isaac and Ishmael were born. Isaac and Ishmael are the 2 most people remember because thats what all the controversy was about. No the "contradiction" is that in the bible itself, it clearly states that Abraham has ONLY one son. Then it states that he has more than one son. That is the contradiction. I have posted this several times now. Thats why I am pointing this out since people only seem to think that there was Issac Thats because the bible is contradictory on that point. It means that he had one HEIR.In the ancient times the oldest son by a mans lawful wife got everything and the other children didnt get much. That is irrelevant. If that were the case, then whoever wrote this probably should have been smart enough to indicate that. Nope. Instead he wrote Abraham had ONLY one son, then in several other passages, he writes well actually Abraham has this and this and this son. You cant do that. Its whats referred to as a "continuity flaw." Whoever wrote it probably had a vested interest. I agree with you there. I suspect it was a Jewish transcriber who wanted to place all of the emphasis on Issac.

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Sat 01/10/09 01:40 PM
Back to the topic at hand There is creationism and evolution This is because there are two gods. Several of you are starting to understand what I mean by that. And so again we go about in circles... Yet... Evolution is a concept that came from a created creature and is therefore a created concept. and creation evolves. as far as creating things each according to their kind... Lets create a zebra... start with rock (as that was present) 'from the earth'. Wait... before you can have a zebra it needs to have water, food and air... quick put in some bacteria to break down the rock... let some part of that bacteria EVOLVE to make air... Another to create food... Then wait a few centuries for all that to come about... well gosh darn... might as well let the zebra grow from the soup... Gonna be a while anyway. Not in my time but gods.