Albert Einstein was born into a Jewish Family. The Einsteins were not observant of Jewish religious practices, and Albert attended a Catholic elementary school.

Albert Einstein agrees with Spinoza's God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.

In the end he himself said he is agnostic.

That also sounds in accordance with Deism. Hmm interesting. Thanks Smiless. I didnt know that but I never really bothered to investigate his personal beliefs as it was irrelevant.

You have cherry picked the posts, haven't you? I didn't bring up Einstein's morality or religion, another poster did in order to attack religion. I have simply pointed out that Einstein's judgments on ethics and morality are tainted by his own personal sins.

This should be a no brainer, but so many people live in a fog and never think, just react. Don't JUDGE!!!! Stop talking about God!!!!!

How everybody seems to miss that I DIDN'T BRING EINSTEIN'S MORALITY INTO THIS, BushBillyClub did by quoting Einstein on morality.

Exegesis...

Jesus forgave those who repented, he condemned the actions of those who were unrepentant.

Peter isn't the Judge, Jesus is...are you entirely sure you are a Christian? I'm not trying to be facetious, it just seems strange that a Christian would think that Peter was to be our judge.

What are "Einstein's sins" exactly spider? How would have way of knowing that? And if he was Agnostic then the concept of "sin" would not even apply to him as that is a Christian hang up and something that they project onto others.

Krimsa,

You could look through my posts to find out what I'm talking about, but I'll explain it one more time.

Adultry is considered a sin by every religion.

Einstein denounced all religions.

Einstein was a serial adulterer.

Therefore Any judgment made by Einstein on religion is circumspect.

This isn't freaking rocket science people!

Even outside of religion, who would say it's okay for the husband in a marriage to cheat on his wife repeatedly and publicly?

If Coca Cola put out a study that claimed that soda was better for you than water, who wouldn't question it?

If someone claims that nobody needs religion to learn morality, but he is a public serial adulterer, then shouldn't you question his claim?

Dont even respond to him he is just trying to keep his viewpoint in debate, its not worth it. The man is already deceased what does it matter anymore?

I question all claims (I care to know anything about) regardless of such things. It is clear you do not do this, you apply certain rules to every such discernment and apparently if someone doesn't measure up then they have nothing to say irregardless of the difference of the subject matter at hand.

Very narrow POV

It doesn't matter, unless someone tries to use Einstein's quotes to push an anti-religious agenda. Then Einstein's morality becomes germane to the discussion. It's not that hard to understand, if you aren't getting this then you need to think harder.

You make me laugh. I mean, you know SO much about me.

Most of the time when you disagree with me, you don't offer any evidence or reasoning, it's "just because". It's time to grow up a bit and try to refute what I post rather than continue making gratuitous assertions.

EDIT:

Oh yeah, the bolded statement is an Ad Hominem attack. Normally that is considered bad form, but it's actually an improvement for billy.

I dont know Spider. It just seems like such a silly debate. The man was a physicist. What does it really matter what his personal spirituality consisted of or didnt consist of? He was most notably recognized for his special theory of relativity. This was expressed by the equation E=mc2 (energy = mass times the speed of light squared). Whether he was a Jew, Christian, Agnostic, I just dont see the relevance. You have gone over the deep end on this one.

(right here, its simple to see your frame of view, and why you choose to judge Einstein and toss away his wisdom regardless of point or topic) (why would it? This seems to me to be the pot calling the kettle black you make unfounded assertions then claim other do . . lol)
Your right its not hard to understand your bias.

those, who were considered crazy at a time, are the ones who have given us science as we know it today.
Einstein was a visionary, he saw time beyond our sensorial capacity which extremely limited. Einstein saw time metaphysically and ontologically which are the only source to see things beyond the limitness of our senses.
Crazy are those who are limited by the sensorial reality, and are not able to see beyond.

Krimsa,

Your reading comprehension is absolutely terrible.

I don't care what his religion was and I haven't mentioned it ONCE. I don't care about his personal "spirituality".

He engaged in very immoral behavior. He had many public affairs with different women and his wife wouldn't see him for months at a time even though they lived in the same house and she still cooked all of his meals.

When a man such as that is quoted as saying "A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.", that quote should be circumspect because of his documented immoral behavior.

Really, this isn't hard. I haven't mentioned his religion ONCE. GET IT? I have stated that his poor personal ethics make the quote above worth as much as a quote from Hitler on race relations.

I would feel like you really burned me, if your arguments had any logical or factual basis and if you weren't disagreeing with me simply because you hate Christianity and want to feel morally superior by continuing to quote Einstein on religion.

Well seeing as Hitler was a Catholic....There is no reason to insult people's intelligence Spider and especially not mine. You know dam well I have held my own with you and Eljay on countless debates.

Besides, the OP was addressing Einstein's mental competence and whether or not he had psychological issues. Thats why I was quite frankly surprised to see where you had led the debate. Never mind, have fun.

OP



Just for the record.



I absolutely, 100% agree with Einstein here on this quote. You sir, would be the last man on earth capable to judge him.

One thing is being born catholic, and another is being catholic.

For those playing along at home, it was another case of the “no true Scotsman” fallacy that Christians are so fond of because it allows them to easily dispose of anyone that doesn’t meet whatever criteria they currently decide to use for Christianity. Child-molesting Catholic priests? No, they’re not real Christians. Bloodthirsty, murderous tyrants? Nope, they’re not Christian either. What constitutes being a Christian, you might ask? Why, whatever the person making the claim believes at the time, of course!

CS Lewis convinced me on this point, he uses logic, unlike you.

IF HITLER HADN'T PRIVATELY REVILED CHRISTIANITY...
Hitler was a Christian. A very bad Christian who didn't follow the teachings of the faith, but he still called himself a Christian.

SINCE HITLER PRIVATELY REVILED CHRISTIANITY
Hitler wasn't a Christian, he manipulated racist Christians into supporting his cause by pretending to be a Christian.

Sorry Krimsa, but you couldn't hold your own with Eljay or me. You ignore 50% of the evidence and repeat your tired old arguments ad nauseam.

And since your were there as an eye witness it has to be true, hasn't it?

If I'd believe everything someone told someone, who in turn told someone I would be a mess.