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Topic: Okay, I need to know the secret
FordWoman's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:00 AM



AMEN! Hallelujiah and YEEEEEEEEEEEE-HA! Allen hit it right on the head!

Walmart decimated the local craft and fabric stores, and then started downsizing their own craft department! I have no choice but to order online or shop in Olympia, something like 60 miles away. And I craft for a living.

I hate the place. Anyone with any doubt, watch the film "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price"




its the same way with cds. if they don't sell it at walmart, you pretty much have to buy it online here. we dont't have anywhere else.

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Fri 11/21/08 10:03 AM
Yea..we are digging out and putting things back where they belong after 3 days of snow and wind...it is beautiful here!! we sure did lose a big bunch of sand on the beach to the lake though...

I think we got between 2-3 feet of snow this past week...

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Fri 11/21/08 10:04 AM




whats up with that? it seems like a lot of bands are only selling at walMart now days?


It all has to do with marketing. WalMart gets a percentage, the band gets a percentage, tons of exposure....it's a win-win for everybody.


yeah but not really cause walmart is pretty much taking over the world! in a city close to me there is two walmarts! its a small city!! wtf

How do you think they're able to afford taking over the world? bigsmile


I'll tell you how. Buying products that are manufactured in third world countries where very often children and minors are exposed to unsafe and unsanitary conditions and who will work sometimes 15 hour shifts to make the equivalent of $20 in stateside pay.


Yea but they sell the same stuff everybody else does and don't screw their customers. Walmart buys American if we would just produce American. It is our fault for letting the corporations take our jobs overseas. I guarantee you if people would pass over what is made in another country because we put import tarriffs like other countries do every one in America would have plenty of work.

lighthouselover's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:05 AM
oh...I forgot..is this the thread where I can just chat in with a couple of my friends? *giggles*

just sayin...


Krimsa's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:19 AM





whats up with that? it seems like a lot of bands are only selling at walMart now days?


It all has to do with marketing. WalMart gets a percentage, the band gets a percentage, tons of exposure....it's a win-win for everybody.


yeah but not really cause walmart is pretty much taking over the world! in a city close to me there is two walmarts! its a small city!! wtf

How do you think they're able to afford taking over the world? bigsmile


I'll tell you how. Buying products that are manufactured in third world countries where very often children and minors are exposed to unsafe and unsanitary conditions and who will work sometimes 15 hour shifts to make the equivalent of $20 in stateside pay.


Yea but they sell the same stuff everybody else does and don't screw their customers. Walmart buys American if we would just produce American. It is our fault for letting the corporations take our jobs overseas. I guarantee you if people would pass over what is made in another country because we put import tarriffs like other countries do every one in America would have plenty of work.


I actually volunteered for Amnesty International back in college;

An estimated 200 children, some 11 years old or even younger, are sewing clothing for Hanes, Wal-Mart, J.C. Penney and Puma at the Harvest Rich factory in Bangladesh.

The children report being routinely slapped and beaten, sometimes falling down from exhaustion, forced to work 12 to 14 hours a day, even some all-night, 19- to 20-hour shifts, often seven days a week, for wages as low as 6 and a half cents an hour. The wages are so wretchedly low that many of the child workers get up at 5 a.m. each morning to brush their teeth using just their finger and ashes from the fire, since they cannot afford a toothbrush or toothpaste.

The workers say that if they could earn just 36 cents an hour, they could climb out of misery and into poverty, where they could live with a modicum of decency.

In the month of September, the children had just one day off, and before clothing shipments had to leave for the U.S., the workers were often kept at the factory 95 to 110 hours a week. After being forced to work a grueling all-night 19- to 20-hour shift, from 8 a.m. to 3 or 4 a.m. the following day, the children sleep on the factory floor for two or three hours before being woken to start their next shift at 8 a.m. that same morning.

The child workers are beaten for falling behind in their production goal, making mistakes or taking too long in the bathroom (which is filthy, lacking even toilet paper, soap or towels).

In 1996, after Charles Kernaghan and the National Labor Committee revealed that Kathie Lee Gifford's clothing line for Wal-Mart was being made by 12 and 13-year-olds in Honduras, the resulting scandal and publicity was enough to virtually wipe out child labor in garment factories around the world producing for export to the U.S.

Exactly a decade after the Kathie Lee Gifford scandal, children are again sewing clothing for Wal-Mart, Hanes and other U.S. companies," said Charles Kernaghan, director of the National Labor Committee. "Children belong in school, not locked in sweatshops. Wal-Mart, Hanes and the other companies owe these children, and must now provide them with stipends to replace their wages and cover all necessary expenses to send them back to school."

Corporate monitoring has again proved a miserable failure, as Harvard Rich was certified by the U.S. apparel industry's Worldwide Responsibly Apparel Production (WRAP) monitoring group. Not only did the U.S. companies fail to notice the child workers, the beatings, the excessive mandatory overtime, but also that not one single worker in Harvest Rich was paid the correct overtime pay legally due them. Any worker daring to ask for their proper wages, or that their most basic legal rights be respected, would immediately be attacked, beaten and fired.

"Right now, more than 100 children at the Harvest Rich factory are being threatened with firing," says Kernaghan. "It is time for the U.S. companies to act immediately, today, to guarantee that this does not happen and that the children are returned to school."


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Fri 11/21/08 10:20 AM

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Fri 11/21/08 10:22 AM
this thread is threatening to become serious

THAT will kill it and keep it from reacing 50



...I dig Three Stooges. Anyone else?

HasidicEnforcer's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:24 AM
hoping some subway will help

Krimsa's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:25 AM
Well I made the post but everyone had ignored it anyway so...shrug.

Carry on.

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Fri 11/21/08 10:29 AM
don't feel bad, most of the time EVERYBODY ignores my posts

but I get that in real life too

Krimsa's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:29 AM

don't feel bad, most of the time EVERYBODY ignores my posts

but I get that in real life too


Its cool. If you guys want to keep it light. I will move on. No problem. waving

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Fri 11/21/08 10:50 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Fri 11/21/08 10:51 AM
you don't have to move on. You can post any ol' thang you wanna

please don't make decisions based on my smart ass comments

RKISIT's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:54 AM

you don't have to move on. You can post any ol' thang you wanna

please don't make decisions based on my smart ass comments
smart asslaugh laugh

Krimsa's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:56 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Fri 11/21/08 10:57 AM

you don't have to move on. You can post any ol' thang you wanna

please don't make decisions based on my smart ass comments


Na, it wasnt yours. I sensed that a few people (not you) were just wanting to make jokes and then I made that comment about the child labor which is a very serious debate type topic. I didnt mean to turn anyone off but it only came to my mind because I wont shop at Wall Mart in fact due to these issues. It probably needs to be mentioned in that respect as sometimes people see a good deal and forget why these emporiums are able to cut prices to the extent that they do.

I try to practice "Ethical Shopping" strategies and its not always easy, nor convenient.

mommyof1's photo
Fri 11/21/08 10:59 AM

this thread is threatening to become serious

THAT will kill it and keep it from reacing 50



...I dig Three Stooges. Anyone else?




Me loves the boys!!!!!!

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Fri 11/21/08 10:59 AM
okie doke then. I just didn't want my off the cuff comments to hurt your feelers

most of the time "f*ck off" is the correct response to my comments


Krimsa's photo
Fri 11/21/08 11:00 AM

okie doke then. I just didn't want my off the cuff comments to hurt your feelers

most of the time "f*ck off" is the correct response to my comments




If you said something mean, I missed it? Dont point it out then! laugh

tngxl65's photo
Fri 11/21/08 11:39 AM
Edited by tngxl65 on Fri 11/21/08 11:39 AM

you don't have to move on. You can post any ol' thang you wanna

please don't make decisions based on my smart ass comments


I make all my decisions based on your smart ass comments. How do you think I got in this mess?

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Fri 11/21/08 11:42 AM
uh oh you're screwed now

even I know not to take me serious

HasidicEnforcer's photo
Fri 11/21/08 11:45 AM
ya know, quiet, that was one of my favorite movies....

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