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God CREATED with a PLAN and PURPOSE . When you create something Funch, do you create aimlessly....with no purpose in mind, or do you create with a plan and purpose in mind.... With NO Plan or Purpose, there would ONLY be CHAOS...NO ORDER in the Universe.... But since the Universe has ORDER, God Obviously Knows what He is doing.... God has PLAN and PURPOSE in Mind in All that He does....Including His Creation.  "MorningSong" of course God's plan and purpose came as instructions for his creations but that still doesn't explain his need to create these creations What need? Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." Well Tribo..... Since God is ALL KNowing and AlL Wise and ALL CREATIVE and All Powerful...... shouldn't God Use His Abilities? For GOOD? Or ....should God have just Allowed His Creative Abilities to Go to WASTE???????? And also Funches..... since MAN is also MADE in God's Image..... shouldn't man ALSO use his creative talents and abilities that God gave him..... OR.... should man just let his God given talents and abilities go to WASTE? And Tribo....IMAGINE if man DID Allow his God given talents and abilities go to waste..and never did anything with what God gave him......then What? Where would we be then? Life would then be a meaningless chaotic waste.....man just drifting thru time...with a meaningless going nowhere existence...right? (Btw, it is WHEN man is plugged into God's plan and purpose for his life....is when the TRUE meaning of life is revealed to man). But again Funches..... God Has a Plan and Purpose in ALL He Creates and Does. And God created man with the same abilities that God has. So Funches....what is part of God's Plan in creating man, for instance? For One... God Created man , to have FELLOWSHIP with Him. And... God not only made man to have FELLOWSHIP with Him ( and btw, becoming born again brings man BACK into that fellowship with God)..... but also.... God created man , so that man would rise up and be like Him. Now NOTICE!!!! I did NOT say God created man to BECOME (BE) GOD........ I said , God created man to BE...LIKE...GOD. Big difference!!! (see Lucifer tried to BECOME(BE) GOD...ahhhh.....big mistake). Cause despite all that God has done..and wants for his Creation , God is Still God.....and Always WILL BE God!!! |
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God CREATED with a PLAN and PURPOSE . When you create something Funch, do you create aimlessly....with no purpose in mind, or do you create with a plan and purpose in mind.... With NO Plan or Purpose, there would ONLY be CHAOS...NO ORDER in the Universe.... But since the Universe has ORDER, God Obviously Knows what He is doing.... God has PLAN and PURPOSE in Mind in All that He does....Including His Creation. "MorningSong" of course God's plan and purpose came as instructions for his creations but that still doesn't explain his need to create these creations What need? Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." Well Tribo..... Since God is ALL KNowing and AlL Wise and ALL CREATIVE and All Powerful...... shouldn't God Use His Abilities? For GOOD? Or ....should God have just Allowed His Creative Abilities to Go to WASTE???????? And also Funches..... since MAN is also MADE in God's Image..... shouldn't man ALSO use his creative talents and abilities that God gave him..... OR.... should man just let his God given talents and abilities go to WASTE? And Tribo....IMAGINE if man DID Allow his God given talents and abilities go to waste..and never did anything with what God gave him......then What? Where would we be then? Life would then be a meaningless chaotic waste.....man just drifting thru time...with a meaningless going nowhere existence...right? (Btw, it is WHEN man is plugged into God's plan and purpose for his life....is when the TRUE meaning of life is revealed to man). But again Funches..... God Has a Plan and Purpose in ALL He Creates and Does. And God created man with the same abilities that God has. So Funches....what is part of God's Plan in creating man, for instance? For One... God Created man , to have FELLOWSHIP with Him. And... God not only made man to have FELLOWSHIP with Him ( and btw, becoming born again brings man BACK into that fellowship with God)..... but also.... God created man , so that man would rise up and be like Him. Now NOTICE!!!! I did NOT say God created man to BECOME (BE) GOD........ I said , God created man to BE...LIKE...GOD. Big difference!!! (see Lucifer tried to BECOME(BE) GOD...ahhhh.....big mistake). Cause despite all that God has done..and wants for his Creation , God is Still God.....and Always WILL BE God!!! well how's my dear friend tonight? glad to see your ure normal loving self ready to teach and explain to the unfortunate un-beleivers my lady, going to bed now - pleasent dreams. 
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Ahhh Sweet Tribo....
Always the Kind Gentleman to All.... God Bless You Tribo  Sweet Dreams Now
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if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. "Tribo" don't you mean God hasn't a need to heal amputees...because he doesn't you said that you have no need for your sight ...everyone know that is a lie  tell that to those blind from birth, how bout helen keller - jose feliciano, stevie wonder etc.. i'm sure they would like to see - but it is not a need. "Tribo" you clearly said that you yourself didn't need your sight ..which is clearly a lie ... to survive or be happy or just live? no, i dont NEED my sight!! I like having my sight a whole lot!! but i dont need it. "Tribo" that you like having your sight "a whole lot" contradicts what you are saying ...place you in a jungle situation and your tune would change ...your lieing to no one but yourself ... >shake's head back and forth, leaves as usual - have fun funch. there are better thing to talk of. and you also have better things to see ..so "Tribo" be thankful for your eyesight and not dismiss it as something you don't need Funches......Tribo doesn't NEED eyesight to LIVE or EXIST....but He does need eyesight to SEE... (now he does need air and food to live) but God .....Who is I AM.. doesn't NEED anything to EXIST or BE . God is ABOVE need. God Made it All. and so therefore ... if God made it ALL.... then why should God have need of anything ? God is I AM . God is GOD ALMIGHTY. ALPHA and OMEGA. Funches....Stop Trying to Put God in a Box. Stop Trying to Limit God.
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Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." "MorninSong" if God is everything then how would a "big empty void" exist ...so are you saying that God's "need" to create was due to lonelyness ... |
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Funches......Tribo doesn't NEED eyesight to LIVE or EXIST....but He does need eyesight to SEE... (now he does need air and food to live) "MorningSong" ..why are you feeding "Tribo's delusions ...Tribo may lose his eyesight and discover that he can't live without it ..all I was saying that he should be thankful that he can see and not dismiss his eyesight as a mere intrusion as perhaps something that he don't "need" ... |
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Yeah...I know...the need you can't prove exists. sorry "ljcc" but even you agreed that an action can not take place without the existence of the "need" to perform that action which is why God couldn't created unless he had the "need" to create and as everyone knows a God with a "need" is no God people are trying to dispute that God has a need instead of explaining why he could create the universe and not have a need to do so this is one example how the Bible itself dispute the existence of God |
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greasy food and beer night again huh funch?
getting yourself prepared - what crappy movies on the menu? |
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greasy food ice cold beer and the crappy scifi movie tonight ..drum roll please......"Tremors"
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Sat 11/15/08 08:01 AM
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Since God is ALL KNowing and AlL Wise and ALL CREATIVE and All Powerful...... shouldn't God Use His Abilities? For GOOD? Was the idea/concept of "good" already conceived before "creation" began? The Bible says that god saw that it was good after the process of creation began... Or was that concept of good created by humankind to attempt to explain some sort of purpose for existence? The collective energy was born out of.........? As much as I'd like to have it all make sense to me and believe that one single "lonely" being purposed it all, it just doesn't fit. For those that it does fit, I feel pretty neutral. I just never could fake it. |
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Edited by
tribo
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Sat 11/15/08 09:50 AM
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MS: Since God is ALL KNowing and AlL Wise and ALL CREATIVE and All Powerful...... shouldn't God Use His Abilities? For GOOD? Was the idea/concept of "good" already conceived before "creation" began? The Bible says that god saw that it was good after the process of creation began... Or was that concept of good created by humankind to attempt to explain some sort of purpose for existence? The collective energy was born out of.........? As much as I'd like to have it all make sense to me and believe that one single "lonely" being purposed it all, it just doesn't fit. For those that it does fit, I feel pretty neutral. I just never could fake it. As opposed to your "faking" ...............?  
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Funches, I think the question you want is "Why did God create man?" That's basically what you want to know. God didn't need to do anything. He wanted to create a being that had the ability to choose to follow Him, to fellowship with Him. Nothing more than that. Despite the fact that Satan tried to become something he wasn't, he didn't have the same choices that we have to make concerning God. God wants a relationship with each of us, where we choose to follow Him, fellowship with Him, have a relationship with Him. It's as simple as that.
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Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." "MorninSong" if God is everything then how would a "big empty void" exist ...so are you saying that God's "need" to create was due to lonelyness ... There are some things that we will never be able to explain, because our minds are finite. We can't see or understand the concept of always existing. We think there always has to be a beginning, because we had to have a beginning. Some things have to wait til we can meet Him face to face and ask him. That's what I am waiting for. |
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why would a omnipotent omniscience omniscient omni-whatever entity lack in it's existence that it would have a need to create ...the addiction of "want" and "need" are for those that lack control over themselves or their environment ..so why would a God have the need to create ... .... this is one of those questions that when asked no believer seem to be able to answer it 
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Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." "MorninSong" if God is everything then how would a "big empty void" exist ...so are you saying that God's "need" to create was due to lonelyness ... |
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Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." "MorninSong" if God is everything then how would a "big empty void" exist ...so are you saying that God's "need" to create was due to lonelyness ... |
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Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." "MorninSong" if God is everything then how would a "big empty void" exist ...so are you saying that God's "need" to create was due to lonelyness ... |
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Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." "MorninSong" if God is everything then how would a "big empty void" exist ...so are you saying that God's "need" to create was due to lonelyness ... |
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Ok Funches, correct me if I am wrong.... but what I see you really asking here is.... "What was the REASON and PURPOSE and PLAN in God Creating it ALL.... Including Man". In other words Funches, what you are basically asking is, "Why did God CREATE anything at all..... why didn't God just leave everything a BIG EMPTY VOID..." "MorninSong" if God is everything then how would a "big empty void" exist ...so are you saying that God's "need" to create was due to lonelyness ... |
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Funches, I think the question you want is "Why did God create man?" That's basically what you want to know. God didn't need to do anything. He wanted to create a being that had the ability to choose to follow Him, to fellowship with Him. Nothing more than that. Despite the fact that Satan tried to become something he wasn't, he didn't have the same choices that we have to make concerning God. God wants a relationship with each of us, where we choose to follow Him, fellowship with Him, have a relationship with Him. It's as simple as that. "keepthehope" so God had a "need" to create being to worship, follow and have a relationship with him ...that means the God is insecure lonely and vain follow him =insecurity have a relationship= lonely worship him = vanity |
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